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Originally Posted By benz5521⏩
what kind of restaurant hon? i tried being a waiter at a diner once. **** that.I’ve been involved in many forms of “dealing with the public.” I owned a restaurant that was named one of the best new restaurants in America. I’ve been a GM/new store development manager for a large retailer. Among other smaller jobs growing up. I know what good customer service and planning is in business. Geissele does not do that and they mock their customers and make fun of themselves on top of that.
Now they are coming out with chitty optics 10 years late, pushing coffee, and doing other dumb chit. Bill is losing it. Their customer service is like a half step above that felon at Original SOE. But their business their rules.
Now they are coming out with chitty optics 10 years late, pushing coffee, and doing other dumb chit. Bill is losing it. Their customer service is like a half step above that felon at Original SOE. But their business their rules.
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01-17-2020, 06:36 PM
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My SPR started having short stroke issues...thought it was the new BCG (adjustable gas) or maybe the trigger dragging...but something felt a little funny when running the charging handle...
Turns out the buffer just decided to self destruct instead.

Turns out the buffer just decided to self destruct instead.

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01-17-2020, 06:39 PM
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There's...what is that...rubber?...on the inside, inside the roll pin? I've never opened a buffer myself but I kind of thought there would just be a weight there (steel or tungsten)?
01-17-2020, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
The pin keeps the whole plastic dingus in there. Behind that are the weights.There's...what is that...rubber?...on the inside, inside the roll pin? I've never opened a buffer myself but I kind of thought there would just be a weight there (steel or tungsten)?

Other than being a potential cat ass trophy if it had happened at the wrong time, it's been a learning experience for sure.
This was a normal CMT buffer...the same company that supplies Noveske, Colt, LMT, etc. The lower just had tens of thousands of rounds on it since the early 00s.
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01-17-2020, 06:53 PM
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Oh okay the pin goes through the rubber plastic thing. Duh. So the tip broke from repeated hard bottoming out at the end of the tube. hehe
01-17-2020, 07:34 PM
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Received my Geissele order on Wed, built the lower yesterday. Haven't received upper, not worried though, the product itself should be great let alone the amazing price. I saw that Geissele instagram post and lol'd, I don't think it makes them look bad "SeLf DePrAcAtInG hUmOr iS uNpRoFeSsIoNaL"
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01-17-2020, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted By Millz⏩
I like how the military’s Geissele rails have been bending like a mother fuker and when people asked bill about it he was like um, I’ll let you know why and how we will fix it after the holidays. It’s been over a year and now he ignores the questions about the rails bending. But y’all keep riding his dick.Received my Geissele order on Wed, built the lower yesterday. Haven't received upper, not worried though, the product itself should be great let alone the amazing price. I saw that Geissele instagram post and lol'd, I don't think it makes them look bad "SeLf DePrAcAtInG hUmOr iS uNpRoFeSsIoNaL"
01-17-2020, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted By benz5521⏩
If u hate him so much why u buy triggerI like how the military’s Geissele rails have been bending like a mother fuker and when people asked bill about it he was like um, I’ll let you know why and how we will fix it after the holidays. It’s been over a year and now he ignores the questions about the rails bending. But y’all keep riding his dick.
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01-17-2020, 08:15 PM
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01-17-2020, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted By benz5521⏩
Link? Under what use are they bending? I mean...they're aluminum, no? Not some space age alloy that's impervious to bending. Aluminum isn'tthatstrong.I like how the military’s Geissele rails have been bending like a mother fuker and when people asked bill about it he was like um, I’ll let you know why and how we will fix it after the holidays. It’s been over a year and now he ignores the questions about the rails bending. But y’all keep riding his dick.
01-17-2020, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted By rahfulz⏩
would like nice on my jean jacket.Kind of want


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01-17-2020, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted By benz5521⏩
Link to this? Supposedly the Geissele rails are some of the more rigid ones out there but if there's an issue I'll dump mine...I depend on a Mk4 holding zero for my DBAL.I like how the military’s Geissele rails have been bending like a mother fuker and when people asked bill about it he was like um, I’ll let you know why and how we will fix it after the holidays. It’s been over a year and now he ignores the questions about the rails bending. But y’all keep riding his dick.
The only thread I could find was people saying their **** was coming loose and rotating, but I'm not sure how these were installed. Lots of people out there install incorrectly so wouldn't surprise me. If it's happening on factory guns, that's a problem.
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
So the tip broke from repeated hard bottoming out

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01-17-2020, 08:29 PM
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So I installed the **** on my SBR to try to mitigate gas to eye, long story short, I couldn't get the end plate back on because the spring for the rear takedown pin was like pushing rope. I had two detents in there because I thought the one went sproing along with the spring but it was only the spring that got launched so I put a new spare detent in over the old. God
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That's news to me.Link? Under what use are they bending? I mean...they're aluminum, no? Not some space age alloy that's impervious to bending. Aluminum isn'tthatstrong.
01-17-2020, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted By NuggzTheNinja⏩
Quick google search and apparently there's been a lot of accounts of rifles taking very small drops and rails bending to the point of contacting gas blocks causing serious POI shifts in zeros, etc.Link to this? Supposedly the Geissele rails are some of the more rigid ones out there but if there's an issue I'll dump mine...I depend on a Mk4 holding zero for my DBAL.
The only thread I could find was people saying their **** was coming loose and rotating, but I'm not sure how these were installed. Lots of people out there install incorrectly so wouldn't surprise me. If it's happening on factory guns, that's a problem.
The only thread I could find was people saying their **** was coming loose and rotating, but I'm not sure how these were installed. Lots of people out there install incorrectly so wouldn't surprise me. If it's happening on factory guns, that's a problem.
It's apparently a real issue that Geissele refuses to address.
01-17-2020, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS⏩
which ones?Quick google search and apparently there's been a lot of accounts of rifles taking very small drops and rails bending to the point of contacting gas blocks causing serious POI shifts in zeros, etc.
It's apparently a real issue that Geissele refuses to address.
It's apparently a real issue that Geissele refuses to address.
01-17-2020, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted By NuggzTheNinja⏩
I need a recommendation for "combat pants" that don't look like combat pants. So no camo (kaki or some kind of solid tan or brown is ideal) and no external or otherwise obvious knee pads probably. Initial look says something like Crye G3 field pant? What else? Just for range use, shooting, classes, long days wanting to pocket a bunch of stuff out and about without lugging a bag around, etc. Bonus points for removable internal knee pad optionLink to this? Supposedly the Geissele rails are some of the more rigid ones out there but if there's an issue I'll dump mine...I depend on a Mk4 holding zero for my DBAL.
The only thread I could find was people saying their **** was coming loose and rotating, but I'm not sure how these were installed. Lots of people out there install incorrectly so wouldn't surprise me. If it's happening on factory guns, that's a problem.
The only thread I could find was people saying their **** was coming loose and rotating, but I'm not sure how these were installed. Lots of people out there install incorrectly so wouldn't surprise me. If it's happening on factory guns, that's a problem.
Edit: Oh yes, so if you're inna woods doing your thing and your buffer explodes, would you rather be carrying a pistol than not?
01-17-2020, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
LAPG Oper8or pants?I need a recommendation for "combat pants" that don't look like combat pants. So no camo (kaki or some kind of solid tan or brown is ideal) and no external or otherwise obvious knee pads probably. Initial look says something like Crye G3 field pant? What else? Just for range use, shooting, classes, long days wanting to pocket a bunch of stuff out and about without lugging a bag around, etc. Bonus points for removable internal knee pad option
Edit: Oh yes, so if you're inna woods doing your thing and your buffer explodes, would you rather be carrying a pistol than not?
Edit: Oh yes, so if you're inna woods doing your thing and your buffer explodes, would you rather be carrying a pistol than not?
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01-17-2020, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Crye is good **** but if you want pants on a lighter budget LAPG makes a few legit styles. Don't get the ones with internal cargo pockets...they dont look natural at all.I need a recommendation for "combat pants" that don't look like combat pants. So no camo (kaki or some kind of solid tan or brown is ideal) and no external or otherwise obvious knee pads probably. Initial look says something like Crye G3 field pant? What else? Just for range use, shooting, classes, long days wanting to pocket a bunch of stuff out and about without lugging a bag around, etc. Bonus points for removable internal knee pad option
Edit: Oh yes, so if you're inna woods doing your thing and your buffer explodes, would you rather be carrying a pistol than not?
Edit: Oh yes, so if you're inna woods doing your thing and your buffer explodes, would you rather be carrying a pistol than not?
Tbh...in hundreds of thousands of rounds (probably close to a million) on the AR platform this was a first. Multiply that to proximity to other experienced users...
Up until now the only total failure I've had was an LMT BCG extractor pin shattering. I assumed that carrying an extra bolt would fix almost every problem but this actually changes my way of thinking about the problem.
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Originally Posted By rahfulz⏩
110% wantKind of want


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Yeah. It eroded my soul. Would not do again unless for significantly more money.2900 hrs in any job lmao
Originally Posted By benz5521⏩
The dudes at G should focus on what they're good at. Expansion only works if you do a good job at your new products, too.I’ve been involved in many forms of “dealing with the public.” I owned a restaurant that was named one of the best new restaurants in America. I’ve been a GM/new store development manager for a large retailer. Among other smaller jobs growing up. I know what good customer service and planning is in business. Geissele does not do that and they mock their customers and make fun of themselves on top of that.
Now they are coming out with chitty optics 10 years late, pushing coffee, and doing other dumb chit. Bill is losing it. Their customer service is like a half step above that felon at Original SOE. But their business their rules.
Now they are coming out with chitty optics 10 years late, pushing coffee, and doing other dumb chit. Bill is losing it. Their customer service is like a half step above that felon at Original SOE. But their business their rules.
Businesses that are focused on making goods that involve our community (dudes, construction/trades, etc.) tend to do poorly at customer service.
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It quickly erodes your humanity.I transitioned away from the customer facing side of my business as quickly as possible. I was fast becoming a misanthrope
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Mookie would be fine. Yeager probably would too. The bad clients are from a very different demographic.think james yeager and mookie would have been good or bad clients?
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Triple Aught Design makes stuff from mild to more serious.I need a recommendation for "combat pants" that don't look like combat pants. So no camo (kaki or some kind of solid tan or brown is ideal) and no external or otherwise obvious knee pads probably. Initial look says something like Crye G3 field pant? What else? Just for range use, shooting, classes, long days wanting to pocket a bunch of stuff out and about without lugging a bag around, etc. Bonus points for removable internal knee pad option
Edit: Oh yes, so if you're inna woods doing your thing and your buffer explodes, would you rather be carrying a pistol than not?
Edit: Oh yes, so if you're inna woods doing your thing and your buffer explodes, would you rather be carrying a pistol than not?
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01-18-2020, 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted By NuggzTheNinja⏩
There were a lot of threads on it on arfcom at least. Because Bill and Mark Larue both post there and go at each other. It’s funny. For example,Link to this? Supposedly the Geissele rails are some of the more rigid ones out there but if there's an issue I'll dump mine...I depend on a Mk4 holding zero for my DBAL.
The only thread I could find was people saying their **** was coming loose and rotating, but I'm not sure how these were installed. Lots of people out there install incorrectly so wouldn't surprise me. If it's happening on factory guns, that's a problem.
The only thread I could find was people saying their **** was coming loose and rotating, but I'm not sure how these were installed. Lots of people out there install incorrectly so wouldn't surprise me. If it's happening on factory guns, that's a problem.
https://www.ar15.com/forums/Industry...290649/?page=1
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Originally Posted By benz5521⏩
There were a lot of threads on it on arfcom at least. Because Bill and Mark Larue both post there and go at each other. It’s funny. For example,
https://www.ar15.com/forums/Industry...290649/?page=1
https://www.ar15.com/forums/Industry...290649/?page=1

A competitor posting something bad about it's competition? Sounds like a smear campaign to me
01-18-2020, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted By OrificeSpunk⏩
A competitor posting something bad about it's competition? Sounds like a smear campaign to me
Jesus Christ dude. The USGI rails bending on military guns is WELL documented. Geissele said yea um we’ll talk about it after the holidays and never did.
A competitor posting something bad about it's competition? Sounds like a smear campaign to me
Yea that’s a real smear campaign. Mark is just making fun of how over their heads They got. It’s not like Larue is perfect either.
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And also to be fair to Geissele, I think they were just making the rails to the military spec. It’s what they wanted.
Geissele has stronger rails but the mil didn’t want those I guess?
I have a MCMR that probably would fare just as bad in similar testing. Thin, light rails are going to be more prone to stuff like this.
Geissele has stronger rails but the mil didn’t want those I guess?
I have a MCMR that probably would fare just as bad in similar testing. Thin, light rails are going to be more prone to stuff like this.
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Kuiu makes great stuff available in solid colors, but I don't know if they make anything with removable kneepadsI need a recommendation for "combat pants" that don't look like combat pants. So no camo (kaki or some kind of solid tan or brown is ideal) and no external or otherwise obvious knee pads probably. Initial look says something like Crye G3 field pant? What else? Just for range use, shooting, classes, long days wanting to pocket a bunch of stuff out and about without lugging a bag around, etc. Bonus points for removable internal knee pad option
Edit: Oh yes, so if you're inna woods doing your thing and your buffer explodes, would you rather be carrying a pistol than not?
Edit: Oh yes, so if you're inna woods doing your thing and your buffer explodes, would you rather be carrying a pistol than not?
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01-18-2020, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted By benz5521⏩
About 10 extra pounds that I still need to lose.What’s everyone carrying today?
And a Shield 9mm.
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Originally Posted By benz5521⏩
https://www.karatesupply.com/Straigh...CABEgL7BfD_BwEWhat’s everyone carrying today?

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Originally Posted By PapaBurgandy⏩
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