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post 1599142811 03-06-2020, 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted By TonyTriangles
India just got the virus.... things are likely to get very ugly over there

https://www.who.int/docs/default-sou...rsn=ed2ba78b_2
Unfortunately, I think they will suffer more than China. Buckle up, curry brahs.
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Originally Posted By jasticus
https://www.thestandard.com.hk/break...Wuhan-man-dies

36 year old recovered dies from virus due to it causing nervous system damage inb4 lots drop
People like you are so gullible and one of the main reasons countries are having major shortages in food and chit.. Literally believe EVERYTHING u read. Other day it was that it can cause HIV then it was liver and kidney problems and now it can cause nervous damage!! Whats next a form of cancer which can't be cured. Just lol.
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post 1599145181 03-06-2020, 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted By LexBrah
A case popped up 10 minutes away from my gym - so im just doing homeworkouts now (got a decent setup anyway)

Went to the supermarket the other day, nearly everything was sold out (pasta/tinned/canned goods/long shelf life products, paracetmol, handwash toilet paper - all empty. Asked staff and they said its all fully out)
Nearly everyone who worked in the supermarkets was coughing and sneezing (not saying they have the virus, but it was weird..)

No vaccine in sight (for at least a year)
No containment measures in the UK (still allowing people to fly back and forth to china, iran and italy etc)

Most people I know dont have £1K in their account and live pay cheque to pay cheque
Most companies my friends work for dont offer sick pay - so as soon as they get quarantined (which WILL happen) they will be ****ed.
People will default on their mortgages/rent
Housing crash/crisis will happen.
Everyone I know is financed up to the balls, deep in consumer debt (credit cards, mortgages, car finance payments, latest iphone payments etc).

Schools aren't closed.
Airlines/Travel industries will mostly go bankrupt (only the strongest will survive).

What concerns me the most is that there is no faith/hope in the Governments. Boris Johnsons advice was "dont panic, and wash your hands whilst singing happy birthday twice" - wtf?!

Nobody seems concerned about this at all, because most people are utter thickos who bury their heads in the sand.

Worst case = global recession with HUGE death rates (millions)
Best case = global recession with around 20-100K deaths imo.
Because the virus has been out for over 2 month now and we have only had 1 death which was a 70 year old woman who already was in and out of hospital with health issues even before catching the virus and then died with the virus.
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Originally Posted By ChrissJ
Because the virus has been out for over 2 month now and we have only had 1 death which was a 70 year old woman who already was in and out of hospital with health issues even before catching the virus and then died with the virus.
2 weeks ago, Italy had 2 cases.
Now they have ~4000 with 148 deaths.

We have 1 death and 116 cases.

Do you not understand that these things grow? The virus hasnt been in the UK for 2 months.

Also, the UK has only tested 13,525 people.

The population of London is 9 million, the population of the UK is 68 million.

This means that the UK has only tested 199 people PER million people
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Originally Posted By LexBrah
2 weeks ago, Italy had 2 cases.
Now they have ~4000 with 148 deaths.

We have 1 death and 116 cases.

Do you not understand that these things grow? The virus hasnt been in the UK for 2 months.

Also, the UK has only tested 13,525 people.

The population of London is 9 million, the population of the UK is 68 million.

This means that the UK has only tested 199 people PER million people
I still believe this virus has been spreading across the globe since December. I do not believe Italy suddenly had 3998 new infections in two weeks. People have been infected, and they have just recently started testing and taking it seriously.
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1 dead in my city, 5 more confirmed cases, 4 of those in "a grave state". Watch numbers are going to blow up in Spain over the weekend.
People just dngaf over here it seems.
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Pogue, to the earlier point I made:

https://egyptindependent.com/egypt-w...e-cruise-ship/

Taiwanese-American woman takes Nile river cruise, goes home, tests positive. 12 asymptomatic crew members test positive, but only after two weeks of testing. Those crew members and their contacts are now under quarantine.

A 44-year-old Egyptian is also quarantined after testing positive after a 12-hour layover in France.

As I said before, you should remove the dangerous misinformation that young, healthy people are unlikely to contract this virus. Young, healthy people are unlikely to become sick enough to end up in the ICU and die, and people with no symptoms are unlikely to spread it, but itis absolutely falseto suggest that otherwise healthy people will not readily incubate the disease, go about their lives with mild symptoms, and spread it to others without realizing what they've done. That is what happened on the Nile cruise, and what has happened in many other cases.

You've also been given multiple links to research - and the CDC's own recommendations to health care workers - debunking the notion that face masks don't help protect healthy people. While I tend to agree that masks are overkill, it's still a provable falsehood, and, outrageously, a self-serving one being promulgated by the NIH which should not be dignified. Masks are so critical that Germany and South Korea have banned exports to preserve their stockpiles, and South Korea has implemented rationing.

More than that, I can't help but notice that you're now blaming "the MSM" in your OP, which is friggin' appalling. While I agree with you in principle, for a thread that is supposed to be about preventing conspiracy theories and disinformation, sewing distrust in the actual news is ridiculous. The WHO's position is that the world isn't moving urgently enough and that governments need to "pull out all the stops" to stop the spread.
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Originally Posted By metroins
Here's another study saying masks help prevent infection.

The OP still lists masks as not helpful at the end.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2440799/



I'm not trying to jump on pogue, but if this is the information thread, we should have accurate information in the OP.

We can all now ignore Jerome Adams, our inexperienced, unqualified, appointed US Surgeon General from Indiana and anybody else (CDC) proposing the myth that masks don't help.

I understand healthcare workers need them, but don't lie to the public.
Masks may decrease the incidence of infection, but the question is by how much?

Masks are better at preventing a sick person from spreading their germs via droplets than are at preventing you from breathing in the droplets. Most cases of infection seem to be from contact (e.g. hand touches surface contaminated by droplets and hand touches nose, mouth, etc.). I think the CDC adding that airborne precautions should be taken in most scenarios is jumping the gun; I don't know if N95 mask scarcity would be as bad if we just stuck to droplet and contact precautions as we normally do with influenza.

Aerolization is seen in stuff like endotracheal intubation, non-invasive ventilation and bronchoscopy. In those situations, airborne precautions should be taken (e.g. with an N95 mask).

Hand-washing and not touching your face still reign supreme. If you're sick and coughing/sneezing, yes, masks are very helpful.
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Originally Posted By MakeABanana
Masks may decrease the incidence of infection, but the question is by how much?

Masks are better at preventing a sick person from spreading their germs via droplets than are at preventing you from breathing in the droplets. Most cases of infection seem to be from contact (e.g. hand touches surface contaminated by droplets and hand touches nose, mouth, etc.). I think the CDC adding that airborne precautions should be taken in most scenarios is jumping the gun; I don't know if N95 mask scarcity would be as bad if we just stuck to droplet and contact precautions as we normally do with influenza.

Aerolization is seen in stuff like endotracheal intubation, non-invasive ventilation and bronchoscopy. In those situations, airborne precautions should be taken (e.g. with an N95 mask).

Hand-washing and not touching your face still reign supreme. If you're sick and coughing/sneezing, yes, masks are very helpful.
You didn't read the studies.
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Holy **** @ the fear mongering happening in this thread. Who would have thought that it could potentially be deadly for elderly people or people with already compromised immune systems - just like the god damn seasonal, yearly flu?!
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This chit can't be spreading that fast as not a single miscer has seemingly come down with the virus yet. Our numbers are large and span globally
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Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS
Holy **** @ the fear mongering happening in this thread. Who would have thought that it could potentially be deadly for elderly people or people with already compromised immune systems - just like the god damn seasonal, yearly flu?!
This.
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Originally Posted By RubberBandMang
This chit can't be spreading that fast as not a single miscer has seemingly come down with the virus yet. Our numbers are large and span globally
No trying to cause further fear mongering than most of the other idiots in here already have...

But, the issue is it's too early to know how bad it is (or isn't) since people don't showing symptoms for ~3 weeks. I'd say in the next 3-4 weeks we'll truly have an idea of how bad (or not) it is in the US.
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Thread needs more real life.

- The VAST majority of deaths are from 70+ year olds (the same god damn people who die the most form the yearly, seasonal flu)
- Although it's not know why, the virus has an EXTREMELY low infection rate for kids and babies. And the few that are infected generally have mild symptoms that they shrug off.
- No racist but Chinese people have **** for hygiene, and many eat **** that makes american's fast food diets seem like the healthiest thing ever. Assuming what US statistics from the virus might look like purely based on Chinese statistics is absolutely stupid.

Seriously unless you're already sick or are 65+ years old youmightbecome infected and get knocked on your ass for a week or two, then you'll go on with your god damn life.
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Originally Posted By iwant2beswole
Yeah because the Seattle county affected by this would declare a state of emergency and all of the major corporations in the city would tell employees to work from home because of the seasonal flu.


It’s just a flu bro


Masks don’t work bro
What's your point? I'm all for preventing spread as much as possible. But I don't think it's the end of the god damn world like the rest of you in here think if it does.
More jackasses need to be working from home when they have the seasonal flu symptoms too. How you idiots are treating the coronavirus is how the seasonal flu should be treated. It's deadly for elderly and immune compromised people too. But no one seems to give AF about that fact.
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Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS
What's your point? I'm all for preventing spread as much as possible. But I don't think it's the end of the god damn world like the rest of you in here think if it does.
I've said this before, but it seems like a lot of people see no grey area between "this is the end of the world" and "it's all media hype".

The seasonal flu hits nursing homes every year. It doesn't usually kill 8 people in each one when it does. For some reason people aren't willing to grasp that containing it is important because it kills vulnerable people and requires costly supportive care in a very concentrated way where it hits.

This isn't media hype. The media isn't the source of hysterical people acting like it's the end of days. They're just pushing some basic, though uncomfortable, facts. Washing your hands is a must but people really should be thinking about social distancing and skipping crowded, unsanitary situations to do their part to minimize the spread. Places like airports where you're crossing paths with sneeze juices from people who just came back from Milan are places to be more conscientious than you would be otherwise and even avoid. This just might not be the time to take that cruise.
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A second person in NC found sick with the virus.
https://www.wral.com/coronavirus-sic...n-nc/18996626/

He had been to Italy, travelling through RDU.
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Originally Posted By ChrissJ
The Chinese government had something to do with this flu.. 100%. I'm willing to bet any money over this.
Wrong thread bro, try here:

https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...hp?t=178112441
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Some girl got the virus from a cruise ship, walked around the city for a week, then went into isolation... Alberta is 2-3 weeks out from our big outbreak

My only major worry about this is the mutated strains & what happens when it mutates into an even more deadly strain
Canada has 2.36 hospital beds per 1000 citizens, our healthcare system can't handle this
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Originally Posted By NattyCory
our healthcare system can't handle this
No country on the planet's healthcare system can. lol
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Originally Posted By ANumber1
I've said this before, but it seems like a lot of people see no grey area between "this is the end of the world" and "it's all media hype".

The seasonal flu hits nursing homes every year. It doesn't usually kill 8 people in each one when it does. For some reason people aren't willing to grasp that containing it is important because it kills vulnerable people and requires costly supportive care in a very concentrated way where it hits.

This isn't media hype. The media isn't the source of hysterical people acting like it's the end of days. They're just pushing some basic, though uncomfortable, facts. Washing your hands is a must but people really should be thinking about social distancing and skipping crowded, unsanitary situations to do their part to minimize the spread. Places like airports where you're crossing paths with sneeze juices from people who just came back from Milan are places to be more conscientious than you would be otherwise and even avoid. This just might not be the time to take that cruise.
An actual sensible post. People are either in the trolling/conspiracy post mode, or the know-it-all it won’t affect me (masks don’t work bro just wash your hands more bro) post mode. Making two separate threads and then stickying this one was also fkn retarded.
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Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS
No trying to cause further fear mongering than most of the other idiots in here already have...

But, the issue is it's too early to know how bad it is (or isn't) since people don't showing symptoms for ~3 weeks. I'd say in the next 3-4 weeks we'll truly have an idea of how bad (or not) it is in the US.
There is definitely something to be said for R0 being a function of the host community. But fatality rates have got to be pretty tightly correlated to the virus strain itself vs the host's nationality. Even taking potential difference for R0 into account, it seems like our country isn't taking it all that seriously, so I have my doubts the R0 will be significantly different here in the early stages than it was in China. The lack of testing being a primary issue as it provides a false sense of security/risk level.
Originally Posted By iwant2beswole
An actual sensible post. People are either in the trolling/conspiracy post mode, or the know-it-all it won’t affect me (masks don’t work bro just wash your hands more bro) post mode. Making two separate threads and then stickying this one was also fkn retarded.
ANumber1 has been bringing great content to the OG thread for some time now. Always appreciate their input. It's really unfortunate that we have become such a polarized society where everyone gets binned into some category. You can be on the spectrum. I think there are quite a few of us who lean towards "this virus will have serious impacts on life as we know it" and are speaking in terms of economic impact and the potential that we see some sort of travel restrictions put in place. This is frequently countered with "you have a 0.2% chance of dying" or "it only affects old cells stfu" as if the concepts of serious impact and variable fatality rates are mutually exclusive.
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the 2nd guy who got coronavirus in AZ was in two scottsdale nightclub saturday night for allegedly 3 minutes each (which sounds like bs)

Hope there wasnt any spread cuz its over for me if so
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Originally Posted By GreatOldOne
A second person in NC found sick with the virus.
https://www.wral.com/coronavirus-sic...n-nc/18996626/

He had been to Italy, travelling through RDU.
Came to post about this. He returned from a region of Italy with heavy outbreak, has had symptoms, and positive test. He is 'in isolation at home.'

The outbreak strain in Italy has been particularly deadly and so has the one in Washington state and now we've got both here in central NC. Hopefully neither has spread it to others but only time will tell.
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Wtf .......earlier today i flew from kuala lumpur to phuket

On the coach journey to airport i was sat next to a pilot and started talking to him

He was flying to shanghai (air asia)...i asked him if he was going to wear a mask and he said "only if people coughing around me"

On my flight with airasia....none of the cabin crew were wearing masks or gloves

30% of people on flight were wearing masks
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Originally Posted By hydraides
Wtf .......earlier today i flew from kuala lumpur to phuket

On the coach journey to airport i was sat next to a pilot and started talking to him

He was flying to shanghai (air asia)...i asked him if he was going to wear a mask and he said "only if people coughing around me"

On my flight with airasia....none of the cabin crew were wearing masks or gloves

30% of people on flight were wearing masks
The virus isn’t really spread through the air, mostly through direct contact.
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The virus isn’t really spread through the air, mostly through direct contact.
ground is probably full of it
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ANumber1 has been bringing great content to the OG thread for some time now.


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One more thing that everyone can do to lessen the spread - health care facilities, nursing homes, businesses/employers, patronized businesses like grocery/shopping/supplies, and individuals at home - is to keep it as warm as possible.

It's known through numerous research that coronaviruses can live a long time outside the body when its cold and dies outside the body much faster the warmer it is.
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