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post 1599886741 03-15-2020, 09:07 PM
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At what point does this start to trample on the first amendment, and are we OK with it as long as it saves lives?

Do you think there will be challenges to the Governor's orders to close restaurants/bars? Lawsuits over lost revenue?

Where do we draw the line on supporting some freedoms being removed based off speculation on what could happen?
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Damn no BJJ for the next month.
post 1599887341 03-15-2020, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted By spirit750
At what point does this start to trample on the first amendment, and are we OK with it as long as it saves lives?

Do you think there will be challenges to the Governor's orders to close restaurants/bars? Lawsuits over lost revenue?

Where do we draw the line on supporting some freedoms being removed based off speculation on what could happen?
I believe, 2-3 weeks of closures so that countries can get their **** under control is reasonable
After that, it starts to become a problem
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post 1599887691 03-15-2020, 09:18 PM
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Anyone else going from condition yellow to condition orange EDC?

I know the CDC is fukin lying to our faces. "its like the flu but has the potential to be worse in elders"

why would they be going to all these drastic fukin measures like the fed setting the int. rates to 0%, and forcing business to close? They've never done any measure that comes close to that for a bad flu cycle.

I am taking a bug out bag in my car, and will be edc'ing at minimum 50 rounds of 9mm.
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post 1599887981 03-15-2020, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted By Meatie
Anyone else going from condition yellow to condition orange EDC?

I know the CDC is fukin lying to our faces. "its like the flu but has the potential to be worse in elders"

why would they be going to all these drastic fukin measures like the fed setting the int. rates to 0%, and forcing business to close? They've never done any measure that comes close to that for a bad flu cycle.

I am taking a bug out bag in my car, and will be edc'ing at minimum 50 rounds of 9mm.
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Look at the response on social media of some people. I think that's enough to give you your answer. Ohio closes bars and restaurants for dine in and some restaurants say they won't comply. You can no longer trust the people of this country to come together for a cause.

As far as edc, I've always got a pack, boots, change of clothes and extra rounds in my vehicle. I thought that was normal.
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Originally Posted By BOZZ
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Look at the response on social media of some people. I think that's enough to give you your answer. Ohio closes bars and restaurants for dine in and some restaurants say they won't comply. You can no longer trust the people of this country to come together for a cause.
youre right, if there truly were a disaster situation in the US you wouldnt be able to trust anyone.
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Probably. We shall see. My SG Ammo order hasn’t shipped yet from last week.
ive got a large order of ammo coming tomorrow at standard prices. i feel like this thread has really given me the heads up on needing to make last minute purchases.
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post 1599888621 03-15-2020, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted By 4ea
ive got a large order of ammo coming tomorrow at standard prices. i feel like this thread has really given me the heads up on needing to make last minute purchases.
You're welcome
Originally Posted By Farley1324
Large county ('Atlanta') adjacent to us is closing entire school district tomorrow to disinfect everything because a teacher tested positive.

Wife is still supposed to travel by air in less than a week for work and it hasn't been canned yet.

****ing geniuses

Things might start getting sporty-ish the next week. I feel like this will be a looking-back "slowly at first, then all at once" scenario, and if so, we may be approaching the 'all at once' portion of worse before better
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Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS
The average dumbass won't get the extent of how bad this is until hospitals are flooded and people they know are dying. Which is scheduled to start happening in 10-12 days.
id like to point out again that i know several hundred people who have been exposed, many of them caught it and no one died.

everyone seems to want to speculate on how terrible things could be because they heard somebody else talk about it...

i actually caught corona, and saw what it has done to the people i work with. catching it sucks, it will make you very sick but its not a doomsday bug like ebola.
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post 1599888961 03-15-2020, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted By 4ea
id like to point out again that i know several hundred people who have been exposed, many of them caught it and no one died.

everyone seems to want to speculate on how terrible things could be because they heard somebody else talk about it...

i actually caught corona, and saw what it has done to the people i work with. catching it sucks, it will make you very sick but its not a doomsday bug like ebola.
You catch that beer while working super secret squirrel at that lab in china where the rich and world leaders created it?
Originally Posted By 4ea
youre being the problem by over reacting like a bitch. in two months when this all blows over and everyone sees it really wasnt some doomsday plague il remind you i was right.

as for a corporate conspiracy. imagine a small group of billionaires who can exert influence over all world govt and control the media. those people would be so rich that money doesnt even matter to them. crippling the worlds economy would simply be another step towards fuking up the middle class.

these would also be the same kind of people who own biochem labs that can create diseases like corona and others. but of course you would have to be insane to believe that there could be a small group of billionaires who are power hungry and want to see an end to the middle class.
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Me, my bro, and cousins been playing the battle royale for Modern Warfare. We've been "role playing" acting all scared and startled, saying lines from Randy from that South Park episode. Look at the camera sheeelly. Making death/dying calls for help like in south park. We've been lmaoing





It's extremely fun, haven't had this much fun in a video game in a long while. It's free to play as well.
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post 1599889041 03-15-2020, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324
You catch that beer while working super secret squirrel at that lab in china where the rich and world leaders created it?
hey farley why dont you go fuk yourself
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post 1599889111 03-15-2020, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted By Millz
It's extremely fun, haven't had this much fun in a video game in a long while. It's free to play as well.
You watch the new jocko podcast with the army dude from mortuary affairs? got about 50 mins in. that intro was heeeeavy
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post 1599889231 03-15-2020, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted By Meatie
You watch the new jocko podcast with the army dude from mortuary affairs? got about 50 mins in. that intro was heeeeavy
Negative. Which episode number? I'll add it to the queue
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post 1599889321 03-15-2020, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted By 4ea
hey farley why dont you go fuk yourself
This is truly a first: novel coronavirus fargument.

ETA when did you get it? Test positive? What state? Not interrogating just curious.
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post 1599889361 03-15-2020, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted By 4ea
hey farley why dont you go fuk yourself
You both know that the billionaires who own the world created sars-cov-19 in a lab intentionally to profit,andhave confirmed that you caught and recovered from it.

k then, that would make you the expert

Where are they hiding the "cure" that's really just orange juice but because the virus doesn't actually hurt anybody we'll never know?
post 1599889611 03-15-2020, 09:51 PM
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Okay, but seriously...

https://mobile.twitter.com/JasonYano...77743653687296


Remember when I said 6 days ago (quote above) things might get sporty-ish next week (that would be starting today)? And it did?

Double it for next week.


Get your shit togethernow
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Saw a headline but couldn't read because paywall

"Federal Reserve cuts rates to zero and launches massive $700 billion quantitative easing program"

rip in peace inflation
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post 1599889831 03-15-2020, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted By NuggzTheNinja
This is truly a first: novel coronavirus fargument.

ETA when did you get it? Test positive? What state? Not interrogating just curious.
i caught it about 6 weeks ago, it lasted approximately 4 weeks, the cough is still lingering. the first five days were actually really bad, it physically hurt like i got beat down. after that i was good enough to work but still feeling it. i did not get tested because at the peak of it i didnt even know what corona virus was, once i had recovered enough and came back to work one of my coworkers told me about corona.

this is in washington state, seattle area
Originally Posted By Farley1324
You both know that the billionaires who own the world created sars-cov-19 in a lab intentionally to profit,andhave confirmed that you caught and recovered from it.

k then, that would make you the expert

Where are they hiding the "cure" that's really just orange juice but because the virus doesn't actually hurt anybody we'll never know?
you have nothing but sh_t between your ears because you never did anything with your life but stay home and watch tv.

go fuk yourself pussy
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post 1599891411 03-15-2020, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted By 4ea
i caught it about 6 weeks ago, it lasted approximately 4 weeks, the cough is still lingering. the first five days were actually really bad, it physically hurt like i got beat down. after that i was good enough to work but still feeling it. i did not get tested because at the peak of it i didnt even know what corona virus was, once i had recovered enough and came back to work one of my coworkers told me about corona.

this is in washington state, seattle area



you have nothing but sh_t between your ears because you never did anything with your life but stay home and watch tv.

go fuk yourself pussy
You're welcome for the heads up a week ago.

Please take note of this week's.

It's not improving the next 7 days.
post 1599891701 03-15-2020, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324
You're welcome for the heads up a week ago.

Please take note of this week's.

It's not improving the next 7 days.
i have no doubt that more people will catch it because it causes the infected to cough uncontrollably. but the vast majority of them will get over it. its not a doomsday plague and panicking over it will not help
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Made a whole post about this, but it got merged with the clusterfuk giant corona thread. But basically,

The death rate is WAY under 1% and probably closer to 0.1% like the flu. Look at how many tests Korea is administering. 97% of those tested don't have it. They are testing everyone. In Germany it's about 92% tested who don't have it. Both have death rates well under 1% because they aren't just catching sick people who are hospitalized. They are catching the mild cases by testing everyone. If you tested for the mildest fukking cold strain but only tested those hospitalized with respiratory symptoms, that death rate would be 3-5% too.

This whole thing is based on peoplenot understanding how the statistics they are comparing are generated

The ONLY danger here is then mass hysteria. I'd like a public door handle at this point and not be concerned.
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post 1599901591 03-16-2020, 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted By LinuxJon
Made a whole post about this, but it got merged with the clusterfuk giant corona thread. But basically,

The death rate is WAY under 1% and probably closer to 0.1% like the flu. Look at how many tests Korea is administering. 97% of those tested don't have it. They are testing everyone. In Germany it's about 92% tested who don't have it. Both have death rates well under 1% because they aren't just catching sick people who are hospitalized. They are catching the mild cases by testing everyone. If you tested for the mildest fukking cold strain but only tested those hospitalized with respiratory symptoms, that death rate would be 3-5% too.

This whole thing is based on peoplenot understanding how the statistics they are comparing are generated

The ONLY danger here is then mass hysteria. I'd like a public door handle at this point and not be concerned.
Did you just say it's just the flu?!?!?!
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Originally Posted By NuggzTheNinja
I know it's easy to get jaded from this stuff, but keep in mind the fact that a lot of the data we are getting is coming from countries that are *not* the US mainstream media.

All of the models I've seen (from Germany and the US) indicate around 60% of the population is going to get this thing eventually. Globally the CFR is about 3.4% but we shouldn't pretend that is going to translate well across populations.

The most optimistic CFR value I've seen to date is from a study that is currently under peer review, which is set at 1.6%. That would yield a net total loss of a little over 3 million in the US.

If our data looks more like Italy (it probably isn't going to look like South Korea), where we have a 5% CFR, we are looking at almost 10 million dead from the disease alone.


Factor in the number of people who die as a result of hospitals not being able to treat non-COVID patients, I'd be surprised if we make it out of this losing less than 5 million people. This isn't diet flu and the US mainstream media has nothing to do with my opinion on this - I haven't watched US mainstream media since the holidays. On the other hand, I have talked with a number of people in government, NGOs, etc. with backgrounds in microbiology, public health, and epidemiology as well as a bunch of friends in the medical community and consensus is that this could get ugly.
No doubt it could get ugly, but should we allow fear to drive decisions affecting our freedom? Why are people arguing for and supporting closing schools down instead of taking their kids out of school, closing businesses down instead of not patronizing and/or working from home, banning assembly instead of not assembling themselves? Trampling people's rights and robbing them of their livelihood because "this could get ugly". That's a dangerous stand.
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Originally Posted By LinuxJon
Made a whole post about this, but it got merged with the clusterfuk giant corona thread. But basically,

The death rate is WAY under 1% and probably closer to 0.1% like the flu. Look at how many tests Korea is administering. 97% of those tested don't have it. They are testing everyone. In Germany it's about 92% tested who don't have it. Both have death rates well under 1% because they aren't just catching sick people who are hospitalized. They are catching the mild cases by testing everyone. If you tested for the mildest fukking cold strain but only tested those hospitalized with respiratory symptoms, that death rate would be 3-5% too.

This whole thing is based on peoplenot understanding how the statistics they are comparing are generated

The ONLY danger here is then mass hysteria. I'd like a public door handle at this point and not be concerned.
I agree with this largely EXCEPT transmissibility is higher with covid 19 and it's increasing in the number of people affected rather than stabilized like the flu. The fact is, the actual death rate is lower than advertised, but it can't be extrapolated like the flu in populations that are ramping up. It's still comparatively high.

I panic bought a ccw finally. I ended up with a Glock 30 sf. It's not the HK I wanted lol but at least it will conceal.
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Originally Posted By rectifryer
I agree with this largely EXCEPT transmissibility is higher with covid 19 and it's increasing in the number of people affected rather than stabilized like the flu. The fact is, the actual death rate is lower than advertised, but it can't be extrapolated like the flu in populations that are ramping up. It's still comparatively high.

I panic bought a ccw finally. I ended up with a Glock 30 sf. It's not the HK I wanted lol but at least it will conceal.
Glock > HK so you done good. I’ve been wanting a Glock 30 for a while. They are sweet.
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Originally Posted By spirit750
At what point does this start to trample on the first amendment, and are we OK with it as long as it saves lives?

Do you think there will be challenges to the Governor's orders to close restaurants/bars? Lawsuits over lost revenue?

Where do we draw the line on supporting some freedoms being removed based off speculation on what could happen?
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Not 2 months ago, the governor of VA declared a state of emergency in order to ban firearms on the capitol grounds in response to "credible threats of violent extremism". It was, instead, a peaceful demonstration for gun rights. Yesterday he banned gatherings of more than 100 people because of 45 case of covid19. Today that demonstration would be illegal.
But that's ok, wasn't important. "people can't ****ing be responsible" so we'll cheer as the government imposes restrictions.

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Originally Posted By Millz
Saw a headline but couldn't read because paywall

"Federal Reserve cuts rates to zero and launches massive $700 billion quantitative easing program"

rip in peace inflation
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Tritium bulbs limit what reticle options are available.
Yea but acogs have some decent reticles. I’m not sure if I’d like the triangle on the accupoints.
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Originally Posted By pUniCepts
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED only applies to the 2A, and that's all we care about itt. Misc Assembly Crew ----------->

Not 2 months ago, the governor of VA declared a state of emergency in order to ban firearms on the capitol grounds in response to "credible threats of violent extremism". It was, instead, a peaceful demonstration for gun rights. Yesterday he banned gatherings of more than 100 people because of 45 case of covid19. Today that demonstration would be illegal.
But that's ok, wasn't important. "people can't ****ing be responsible" so we'll cheer as the government imposes restrictions.

eta: posted from work parking lot as I can't enter until the nurse clears me. Getting paid to internet surf for 2 hours while I wait for her to get here.
Because just like the other side some want to pick and choose what freedoms they defend. The majority should suffer because of the bad decisions of a few, right? Imagine if they had implemented a one month ban on AR-15 sales after Vegas due to the threat of copy cat attacks. Everyone would have lost their ****. One month ban on going to a restaurant? Perfectly fine as long as it saves one life.
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Originally Posted By pUniCepts
No doubt it could get ugly, but should we allow fear to drive decisions affecting our freedom? Why are people arguing for and supporting closing schools down instead of taking their kids out of school, closing businesses down instead of not patronizing and/or working from home, banning assembly instead of not assembling themselves? Trampling people's rights and robbing them of their livelihood because "this could get ugly". That's a dangerous stand.
I always err on the side of freedom and in general most of the things like school closures and cancellations (of PUBLIC schools) are constitutional. Forced closure of businesses is likely not. Quarantines, I'm not sure. States in general have tried giving the people a chance to get their chit together and truth be told, people are either too selfish or stupid to modify their behaviors voluntarily. I'm sure you saw the NOLA videos.

I'd be fine with zero intervention as long as we have a system for tracking who is still going out spreading this **** around - those people living on yolo mode need to move their asses to the back of the line when it comes to treatment. They're also opening themselves up to litigation, same as someone who goes out and gets HIV then runs around infecting everyone. Freedom comes with responsibility.
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