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post 1600576131 03-23-2020, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted By Fsharpasharp
No, hence why action was needed months ago to prevent patient 1 and subsequent carriers from entering America/spreading it throughout America. There is a reason why Taiwan and other Asian countries like Singapore are still sitting at fewer cases than many American states. In the age of big data, this could have been prevented and small businesses and the economy would not have been suffering to this extent.
You were never gonna prevent patient 1 from entering this country. That's just living in fantasy land if you think that was possible. They actually closed down the borders before most countries. Yeah it prob should have been sooner, but it makes little difference the virus was gonna get in.
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Originally Posted By Fsharpasharp
CDC estimates* that, from October 1, 2019, through March 14, 2020, there have been:
38,000,000 – 54,000,000
flu illnesses

17,000,000 – 25,000,000
flu medical visits

390,000 – 710,000
flu hospitalizations

23,000 – 59,000
flu deaths


0.06-0.11% death rate seasonal flu in america




Total cases: 33,404
Total deaths: 400

1.2% death rate covid-19 in america


are you incapable of using google?
You realize the number of cases is way off due to very limited testing capability in the US right? Countless numbers of symptomatic people are denied testing. Meanwhile deaths are much easier to count so we can presume those are accurate.

The real number of cases is easily double to quadruple what is being reported and would drop the true death rate of coronavirus to 0.3 - 0.6%.
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A major problem is hospitals just don't have enough respirators for the infected. ofc the misc lacks empathy for the PEOPLE who are consciously choking to death in their own lung fluid. What a sheit way to go...
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Originally Posted By Fsharpasharp
No, hence why action was needed months ago to prevent patient 1 and subsequent carriers from entering America/spreading it throughout America. There is a reason why Taiwan and other Asian countries like Singapore are still sitting at fewer cases than many American states. In the age of big data, this could have been prevented and small businesses and the economy would not have been suffering to this extent.
Event 201 bro. They just happened to see this as a possibility before we all did somehow.
Originally Posted By SlimPeanut
A major problem is hospitals just don't have enough respirators for the infected. ofc the misc lacks empathy for the PEOPLE who are consciously choking to death in their own lung fluid. What a sheit way to go...
Of course, and people barely making it now. What a way to go for many young people to die of starvation / violent crimes through burglary / robbery / looting as well stemming from this chaos.

Either way, this is a form of population control. Why would the elites not want this?
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Classic "if it doesn't affect me then it is irrelevant" view point there bro.

Would you also agree to a survival of the fittest, Purge type scenario being in place? if so then your point makes some sense, at least from your perspective, if not really think about your attitude.

Please don't neg me. We all gonna make it.

PS from a article today:

Fr. Giuseppe Berardelli, has died from the coronavirus. He refused a ventilator, saying it should rather be given to someone younger than him. He was 72 years old, from Bergamo.

You reckon true heroes like this guy would be happy to know he dead trying to save young people with your attitude?
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What a stupid argument this is. If an alien race came to our planet and started killing 100 people a day, do you think people would say

"Hey man the flu kills way more people than these aliens are! Why wreck our entire economy and do every thing we can to stop them! Makes no sense!"

Or would we expect our government and people in authority to fight back and attempt to stop people from dying?
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Do you not understand exponential growth?

Its simple.......doubling of total cases/deaths every few days = Millions of deaths within a few months
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Originally Posted By fcnz32
You realize the number of cases is way off due to very limited testing capability in the US right? Countless numbers of symptomatic people are denied testing. Meanwhile deaths are much easier to count so we can presume those are accurate.

The real number of cases is easily double to quadruple what is being reported and would drop the true death rate of coronavirus to 0.3 - 0.6%.
You realize without providing data from the CDC your post is a baseless assumption? The same logic could be applied to people who died who weren't tested. Looking towards Italy, it is another example of covid-19 having a higher mortality rate than the seasonal flu and I provided all of that data in another thread. You copers make me lol
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Originally Posted By hydraides
Do you not understand exponential growth?

Its simple.......doubling of total cases/deaths every few days = Millions of deaths within a few months
Betcha it wont be anywhere near a million deaths in the US. I'll even care to bet the flu still causes more deaths this year.
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Originally Posted By dannyg1217
I find it funny that the CDC extrapolates data for flu to project how many have it but not with covid. Take the number of confirmed cases in the US and times that by 10 at least. Then you might be including asymptomatic people or people with very mild symptoms
Nothing "funny" about it. The current strain of coronavirus is novel and the degree of asymptomatic/unreported contagion relative to other strains is unknown. Meanwhile with seasonal flu strains there's literal decades of data and scientific research to build models upon.
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Originally Posted By Sicknotz
Classic "if it doesn't affect me then it is irrelevant" view point there bro.

Would you also agree to a survival of the fittest, Purge type scenario being in place? if so then your point makes some sense, at least from your perspective, if not really think about your attitude.

Please don't neg me. We all gonna make it.

PS from a article today:

Fr. Giuseppe Berardelli, has died from the coronavirus. He refused a ventilator, saying it should rather be given to someone younger than him. He was 72 years old, from Bergamo.

You reckon true heroes like this guy would be happy to know he dead trying to save young people with your attitude?
He'd probably agree that he wouldn't want millions of young people to be out on the streets.

How many layoffs have there been vs coronavirus cases?

- The coronavirus crisis is likely to result in layoffs on a scale that the U.S. has never seen before.
- Economists expect April to be the first reporting month when the damage starts to show up.
- Forecasts for that month range from 500,000 to 5 million.
- The worst month during the financial crisis saw nonfarm payrolls decrease by 800,000.
- Weekly jobless claims numbers are expected to be so bad that the White House has reportedly asked state officials to delay releasing precise counts.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/20/the-...ever-seen.html
Originally Posted By Fsharpasharp
You realize without providing data from the CDC your post is a baseless assumption? The same logic could be applied to people who died who weren't tested. Looking towards Italy, it is another example of covid-19 having a higher mortality rate than the seasonal flu and I provided all of that data in another thread. You copers make me lol
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ess-italy-says

Avg age of the deaths is 79.5

Life expectancy in the US: 78.69 years
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[QUOTE=ErnieMccracken post_id=1600579371][img]https://i.imgur.com/E8GkETT.png[img][/QUOTE]You really wanna live in a place that does this?

Sounds like Nazi Germany to me
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Originally Posted By Tomohokk
Avg age of the deaths is 79.5

Life expectancy in the US: 78.69 years
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Originally Posted By gixxer0.6g
Triggered! You know what they say about people easily triggered?


Their boyfriends wear the pants in the relationship


Honestly I think I already had it but the symptoms were so mild I hardly even notice. Just LOL at destroying the global economy over this. Strongest overreaction ever.


Current CNN insanity death tracker of the covid: 500 over the last 30 days? 16 per day?


Also in unreported news, 155 people just in the US died from the flu today.

So far the flu is 10x more deadly. Must be the same experts who warn of us global warming.
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I understand your frustration but think about it.

Most of people died from smoking rather did that to themselves while death caused by Corona virus was not.

Old people, people with serious diseases and poor people are at greater risk of dying from complications caused by Corona virus.

Don't you have anyone who is a high-risk person, someone among parents, grandparents, families and friends?

Death toll is not just number, behind those numbers there are always real people and their family's sorrow.

So please keep your emotion in check.
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Its merely speeding up the process. Social security and Medicare budgets looking good for 2021

If only this virus targeted welfare recipients. Deep state prob working on that virus right now.
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Originally Posted By Tomohokk
You really wanna live in a place that does this?

Sounds like Nazi Germany to me
No, but I don't want martial law and a decade of great depression either. Decisions, decisions.
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I don't think you retards understand exponential growth.
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Originally Posted By hydraides
Do you not understand exponential growth?

Its simple.......doubling of total cases/deaths every few days = Millions of deaths within a few months
this
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken
No, but I don't want martial law and a decade of great depression either. Decisions, decisions.
None of the solutions are going to be easy.

As of now, it's about which path will do the least damage

Trump did say: "We cannot let the cure be worse than the problem itself."

If most people were financially stable, this wouldn't be an issue. But it is.

Imagine having a baby on the way, two kids, and you just got laid off and stuck with a mortgage along with loans and bills.
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Originally Posted By Tomohokk
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ess-italy-says

Avg age of the deaths is 79.5

Life expectancy in the US: 78.69 years
And? Covid-19 has been to known to be a killer of the elderly since the earliest findings from China.
It seems like there are two groups of people who get defensive about flattening the curve: "the it's just a flu crew" and "those who died were going to die anyways crew". Not that Western culture has ever valued the elderly anyways, so no surprise.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6912e2.htm
Among 44 cases with known outcome, 15 (34%) deaths were reported among adults aged ≥85 years, 20 (46%) among adults aged 65–84 years, and nine (20%) among adults aged 20–64 years. Case-fatality percentages increased with increasing age, from no deaths reported among persons aged ≤19 years to highest percentages (10%–27%) among adults aged ≥85 years (Table) (Figure 2).
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Originally Posted By Fsharpasharp
And? Covid-19 has been to known to be a killer of the elderly since the earliest findings from China.
It seems like there are two groups of people who get defensive about flattening the curve: "the it's just a flu crew" and "those who died were going to die anyways crew". Not that Western culture has ever valued the elderly anyways, so no surprise.
And the "We need to make money crew" "Got bills crew" "Got mortgage payments and was establishing a career crew" "Got mouths to feed crew"

We care about the elderly, absolutely.

But the people who are supporting 'social isolation forever' seems to be 'Yo I'm financially stable and single all y'all should be inside already quit being poor crew"

- The coronavirus crisis is likely to result in layoffs on a scale that the U.S. has never seen before.
- Economists expect April to be the first reporting month when the damage starts to show up.
- Forecasts for that month range from 500,000 to 5 million.

That's a lot bro. Millions. And growing. 78% of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck
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Are we going to count the people that die from hunger or at robberys from necesity or whatever as COVID deaths too? Wonder whats going to be worse srs, the virus itself or the attempt to slow it down
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Originally Posted By fcnz32
You realize the number of cases is way off due to very limited testing capability in the US right? Countless numbers of symptomatic people are denied testing. Meanwhile deaths are much easier to count so we can presume those are accurate.

The real number of cases is easily double to quadruple what is being reported and would drop the true death rate of coronavirus to 0.3 - 0.6%.
You are arguing with people who don’t understand the basic facts and figures. Once you crunch the numbers you realize how this common flu is non-threatening whatsoever.

China has a population of 1.4 Billion people. 10 days without a new case in Wuhan, where it all started. And 4 days without a new case in the whole of China.

China and even Wuhan have returned to normal life.

This has an overpowered and excess response by the establishment.
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Originally Posted By Skinnyfloyd1
You are arguing with people who don’t understand the basic facts and figures. Once you crunch the numbers you realize how this common flu is non-threatening whatsoever.

China has a population of 1.4 Billion people. 10 days without a new case in Wuhan, where it all started. And 4 days without a new case in the whole of China.

China and even Wuhan have returned to normal life.

This has an overpowered and excess response by the establishment.
Normal? Everyone in the country is still wearing masks, being temperature checked, and a sizable portion of the population is still working from home. It’s nothing like it was before. Foreigners are held in mandatory 2 week quarantines upon arrival.


It’s amazing how you are into fringe ideas but actually trust the CCP. The same government that openly jails and kills those who oppose anything that goes against their backwards ideology. Go on twitter and see the truth lmao. A couple days ago there was a tweet of a video that surfaced of a covid-19 carrying elderly couple who were found dead in their apartment. I’ll gladly edit this post with the video, tomorrow.
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Originally Posted By irollurmom
Have the CDC and White House called you yet for your expert analysis?
only cucks appeal to authority as a logical fallacy.

Because they are authority doesnt mean they are correct. They are epidemiologists and scientists, not economists and sociologists, nor the president who makes the ultimate decisions based on all elements involved, not just 1 element.

Their job is to describe the problem, the leaders come up with the solutions.

And they are commies at the CDC and The Who as well. USA is a unique problem because Capitalism doesnt sleep like communism does. we have to keep things going or else collapse unlike commies who have no empires and can just be a cuck all month.
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Originally Posted By Tomohokk
And the "We need to make money crew" "Got bills crew" "Got mortgage payments and was establishing a career crew" "Got mouths to feed crew"

We care about the elderly, absolutely.

But the people who are supporting 'social isolation forever' seems to be 'Yo I'm financially stable and single all y'all should be inside already quit being poor crew"

- The coronavirus crisis is likely to result in layoffs on a scale that the U.S. has never seen before.
- Economists expect April to be the first reporting month when the damage starts to show up.
- Forecasts for that month range from 500,000 to 5 million.

That's a lot bro. Millions. And growing. 78% of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck
The US economy hasn't been 'strong' since 2008. Do not believe the lies or bull**** the media tells you. Most of the statistics on unemployment, job markets, real estate prices etc they give you are completely misleading or just plain wrong. The "job boom" was 99% temp jobs. Filled by people with extreme student debt, who couldn't possibly overcome it due to no upward mobilization. This QE bull**** only accelerated this total market bubble. It took only ONE week of job displacement to crash all of Trump's gains in office. LOL, strong greatest economy in the world. Whether it was the corona virus, or something else. The market was waiting for an excuse to crash. Let it burn. So now, we can re-bail out the the companies who will in turn pay their executive bonuses, lay off half their company, and not help the individual in any tangible way whatsoever. These people will again be slaves to their debt, giving more power to the corporations. Who truly run the government. Well that and the central banks. You literally had United Airlines say today if they don't get a bailout mass layoffs are coming. This isn't capitalism. Until we can find a way to get money and corporations out of politics this cycle will just continue to happen over and over.
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Originally Posted By gixxer0.6g
Triggered! You know what they say about people easily triggered?


Their boyfriends wear the pants in the relationship


Honestly I think I already had it but the symptoms were so mild I hardly even notice. Just LOL at destroying the global economy over this. Strongest overreaction ever.


Current CNN insanity death tracker of the covid: 500 over the last 30 days? 16 per day?


Also in unreported news, 155 people just in the US died from the flu today.

So far the flu is 10x more deadly. Must be the same experts who warn of us global warming.
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Originally Posted By Skinnyfloyd1
You are arguing with people who don’t understand the basic facts and figures. Once you crunch the numbers you realize how this common flu is non-threatening whatsoever.

China has a population of 1.4 Billion people. 10 days without a new case in Wuhan, where it all started. And 4 days without a new case in the whole of China.

China and even Wuhan have returned to normal life.

This has an overpowered and excess response by the establishment.
Wuhan was on lockdown for nearly two months, tf are you on? It hasn’t even been two weeks here.
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