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Its becoming readily apparent that this Coronavirus Crisis was over-exaggerated
03-24-2020, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted By Smunks⏩
South Korea imposed strict curfews.There is no recovering from this in the short term.
What i wanna know is how have China and South Korea already got this under control? especially China
What i wanna know is how have China and South Korea already got this under control? especially China
Lol @ thinking China has got a handle on it.
I’ve just watched the video on livel**k with bodies lying on the street, and all sorts of chit being pumped into the air by fleets of big rigs.
So no, there is no short term fix. So we should ignore it?
I’ll survive cuz I’m young and have no health complications, my parents/grand parents can just deal with it amirite?
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Originally Posted By andyray⏩
Italy also has a high percentage of cigarette smokers. I saw a study that said the smoking rate for medical professionals was almost 50%italy's death rate is so high because so many men in their 30s and 40s still live with their parents, they catch it walking around, bring it home to elderly parents and they die
they're always hugging and kissing each other as well
they're always hugging and kissing each other as well
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03-24-2020, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted By andyray⏩
Italy's death rate is also not realistic. There's no way 10% of Italians would die if the whole country got coronaitaly's death rate is so high because so many men in their 30s and 40s still live with their parents, they catch it walking around, bring it home to elderly parents and they die
they're always hugging and kissing each other as well
they're always hugging and kissing each other as well
03-24-2020, 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted By TheFlexatorium⏩
There is no real treatment. Even ventilators have a low success rate. If you require ventilation the chances of you surviving is 3%.If your post is suggesting that its all over blown you're unequivocally wrong.
Have you considered the rate is so low because we are able to effectively treat those with the worst symptoms, the other option is to let it run through everyone and potentially leave thousands needing severe levels of care all at once. That is when you will see many more people die.
Have you considered the rate is so low because we are able to effectively treat those with the worst symptoms, the other option is to let it run through everyone and potentially leave thousands needing severe levels of care all at once. That is when you will see many more people die.
https://www.thelancet.com/action/sho...2820%2930566-3
That's what the experts are saying.
03-24-2020, 09:08 PM
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Anyone that has been out of work because of the hysteria should have the media and their govenor repay them
03-24-2020, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted By GixxerSixxer⏩
You know we've got live webcams now.China: Martial law and false reporting to western countries
South Korea:Robust testing program and strict social distancing/quarantine measures coupled with an obedient populous
South Korea:Robust testing program and strict social distancing/quarantine measures coupled with an obedient populous
Here's how "strict social distancing" looks in Japan where nobody clearly gives a fook about this killer virus:
https://www.webcamtaxi.com/en/japan/...a-shibuya.html
https://www.webcamtaxi.com/en/japan/...ibuya-109.html
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03-24-2020, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted By Vrykul⏩
That’s not how mortality rates work lmao. Strong brainlet!Italy's death rate is also not realistic. There's no way 10% of Italians would die if the whole country got corona
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03-24-2020, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted By fishnbrah⏩
This. The USA has a huge range of climate. It's pretty obvious statistically which climates are having the worst outbreaks..... Compare NYC to LA, for example....italy is 1/6th our population on 1/30th our land mass. of course theyre gonna get hit harder than the US
03-24-2020, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted By Erey350⏩
Ever since the “could you beat prime Mike Tyson in a street fight” thread where 90% of miscers unironically said yes, it’s not surprising to see they also think they are smarter than the WHO.People on the misc are dumber than I thought
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Originally Posted By FreshlySnipes⏩
If you rearrange the letters in WHO you get the HWO, and then if you turn the H into an N you have NWOEver since the “could you beat prime Mike Tyson in a street fight” thread where 90% of miscers unironically said yes, it’s not surprising to see they also think they are smarter than the WHO.
NWO = New World Order.
nuff said
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03-24-2020, 09:28 PM
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Lots of people who are afraid of death far too willing to give away all their rights for the illusion of safety. It’s a symptom of the hollow unfulfilled lives we live now.
The chinese virus doesn’t scare me. People’s stupidity does
The chinese virus doesn’t scare me. People’s stupidity does
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03-24-2020, 09:32 PM
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03-24-2020, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted By io31⏩
No, the current plan is that everybody is expected to get it. This is of course utterly ridiculous, but the memory of past actual deadly pandemics is gone.never claimed this either .. That said, slowing it down also reduces the total number of people who end up getting it in the end.
"Fatality rate growth" was a wrong phrase. Total number of fatalities is going up by 30% in a lot of places. US is not far behind. It is sustainable at his point. It will of course have to saturate. Based on %1 CFR and 60% of population getting it, the value it will saturate will be very painful.
The fatality rate is nowhere near 1%. Holy shiat it’s been over and over and over again that Italy is the exception and even there there’s tons of people that got it that never got tested.
03-24-2020, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted By io31⏩
1. lock yourself inside and let the country fall apartAll other estimates point to 0.5% to 2%. I'll say this for the second time because you conveniently ignored The article that you quoted yourself estimates it at 2%so I am being generous.
Lets say for arguments sake , it is 0.5%. That is still 25x of that of H1N1.
Lets say for arguments sake , it is 0.5%. That is still 25x of that of H1N1.
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2. continue working and living your life and deal with a .5% death rate
pick one
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03-24-2020, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted By S0Jack3d⏩
Not sure if srs????Im sure old people would rather die than see their country turn into a 3rd world chithole and have commie china as the dominant world power.
Hahaha old people are the ones that sold off our countries in exchange for cheap Chinese trinkets
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03-24-2020, 09:38 PM
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I believe that the Corona virus was formulated by the Chinese at the highly infectious, biological, research lab located in Wuhan. Furthermore, senile and corrupt Joe Biden and his family have done tons of business with China when Biden was VP. I believe that the Corona virus was released by the Chinese to tank the American and world economies, and cause senile and corrupt Joe Biden to be elected as President this, coming November. Biden will be controlled by the Chinese like a puppet, while he and his entire family become super rich with a multitude of Burisma type deals.
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Originally Posted By moosik85⏩
America - Defeated the British Empire, the Nazi's, Communism, Islamic Terrorism...... Worlds only super power.... until a generation of pussies known as "millenials" decided a flu made it too scary to go outside and let the country die while they hid from a virus.Not sure if srs????
Hahaha old people are the ones that sold off our countries in exchange for cheap Chinese trinkets
Hahaha old people are the ones that sold off our countries in exchange for cheap Chinese trinkets
phucking pathetic.
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Originally Posted By LooksMaximus⏩
Most people are waking upYou know we've got live webcams now.
Here's how "strict social distancing" looks in Japan where nobody clearly gives a fook about this killer virus:
https://www.webcamtaxi.com/en/japan/...a-shibuya.html
https://www.webcamtaxi.com/en/japan/...ibuya-109.html
JFL @ western plebs actually falling for this chite
Here's how "strict social distancing" looks in Japan where nobody clearly gives a fook about this killer virus:
https://www.webcamtaxi.com/en/japan/...a-shibuya.html
https://www.webcamtaxi.com/en/japan/...ibuya-109.html
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https://www.foxnews.com/world/sweden...virus-lockdown
Sweden has recommended its citizens work from home (if they’re able) and practice social distancing. Gatherings that exceed 500 people have been banned – compared with the ban on gatherings of more than two people in the U.K. and Germany.
The government has also advised secondary schools and universities to close and conduct lectures online. Bars and restaurants, meanwhile, are allowed to stay open.
Citizens have largely ignored these recommendations, according to a report from AFP. Over the weekend, bars and restaurants were packed with patrons.
Sweden has recommended its citizens work from home (if they’re able) and practice social distancing. Gatherings that exceed 500 people have been banned – compared with the ban on gatherings of more than two people in the U.K. and Germany.
The government has also advised secondary schools and universities to close and conduct lectures online. Bars and restaurants, meanwhile, are allowed to stay open.
Citizens have largely ignored these recommendations, according to a report from AFP. Over the weekend, bars and restaurants were packed with patrons.
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Originally Posted By io31⏩
inflated numbers we all know that chit isnt gonna happen. a scare tactic from the hysterical media.This is your original post:
You were talking about 600 people, now you accept 0.5% CFR? Which one is it? If 60M (again , being very generous) gets infected that is 300k deaths.
South Korea and Japan are doing okay, they didn't shut down their economies. But they aren't treating this as "sniffles" or "scam".
You were talking about 600 people, now you accept 0.5% CFR? Which one is it? If 60M (again , being very generous) gets infected that is 300k deaths.
South Korea and Japan are doing okay, they didn't shut down their economies. But they aren't treating this as "sniffles" or "scam".
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Originally Posted By Fsharpasharp⏩
Are you gonna try to explain what you mean or should i just neg youThat’s not how mortality rates work lmao. Strong brainlet!
6,820 deaths in Italy out of 69,176 infected, 9.8%
Scale that to the entire population (60.48 mil), that means 5,927,040 deaths. This official 9.8% number is obviously innacurate. Corona =/= black plague
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Originally Posted By io31⏩
Dont worry, when those numbers dont pan out, they'll be quick to take credit by claiming "our social distancing and quick reaction saved the day"Which number is inflated by the media? 0.5% CFR or 60M infections? Because neither of them are coming from the media.
gtfo if you believe this horse chit.
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Originally Posted By Vrykul⏩
Only 12% of those deaths were directly caused by the corona virus:Are you gonna try to explain what you mean or should i just neg you
6,820 deaths in Italy out of 69,176 infected, 9.8%
Scale that to the entire population (60.48 mil), that means 5,927,040 deaths. This official 9.8% number is obviously innacurate. Corona =/= black plague
6,820 deaths in Italy out of 69,176 infected, 9.8%
Scale that to the entire population (60.48 mil), that means 5,927,040 deaths. This official 9.8% number is obviously innacurate. Corona =/= black plague
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-h...ts-died-italy/
And 99% of the victims had pre-existing conditions:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ess-italy-says
Don't look at Italian statistics. Look at German or Austrian statistics. They're actually counting their deaths and serious/critical cases correctly.
https://www.worldometers.info/corona...untry/austria/
https://www.worldometers.info/corona...untry/germany/
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The non-insane part of my brain wants to believe this is just an overly cautious response to a never-before-seen pandemic event.
But something is smelling more and more fishy by the day.
I've been against Trumptards parroting MAGA rhetoric on Twitter for this whole event (and I'm a republican who voted for Trump)
But starting to believe they have a point....
But something is smelling more and more fishy by the day.
I've been against Trumptards parroting MAGA rhetoric on Twitter for this whole event (and I'm a republican who voted for Trump)
But starting to believe they have a point....
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Originally Posted By headinahole⏩
Pretty much thisthe **** are you talking about?
They're literally just now mass testing, the numbers are going to skyrocket over the next 2 weeks.
They're literally just now mass testing, the numbers are going to skyrocket over the next 2 weeks.
In most of North America we've only experienced the beginning of the curve. Stay home *******s
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Originally Posted By LooksMaximus⏩
Yeah thats what im arguing, im saying the italian death rate is artificially inflated, the reality is that its probably around 1%Only 12% of those deaths were directly caused by the corona virus:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-h...ts-died-italy/
And 99% of the victims had pre-existing conditions:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ess-italy-says
Don't look at Italian statistics. Look at German or Austrian statistics. They're actually counting their deaths and serious/critical cases correctly.
https://www.worldometers.info/corona...untry/austria/
https://www.worldometers.info/corona...untry/germany/
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-h...ts-died-italy/
And 99% of the victims had pre-existing conditions:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ess-italy-says
Don't look at Italian statistics. Look at German or Austrian statistics. They're actually counting their deaths and serious/critical cases correctly.
https://www.worldometers.info/corona...untry/austria/
https://www.worldometers.info/corona...untry/germany/
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Everybody can take this pandemic in their own way. What I do know is that there is long term stability coming due to legislation. Basically we are just sending the sick off on a hospital ship and they'll be further quarantined until they are cured. As long as the bell curve of the number of new infection flattens, everything will be looking good again.
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Australia's stats (some of the highest tested % per capita in the world)
2318 confirmed cases.
8 deaths...all confirmed old.
This is laughable, minimal cases needing ICU.
2318 confirmed cases.
8 deaths...all confirmed old.
This is laughable, minimal cases needing ICU.
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It's pretty clear that this is worse than your regular flu for multiple reasons
- Many estimates point the fatality rate to be around 1-2%, 10-20x more than your regular flu
- Flu season has started in October, Coronavirus as far as we know hasn't hit america until about 5 weeks ago (could have gone undetected for months, who knows though)
- Even with all these social distancing measures that we never do for the regular flu, people are still getting infected (but perhaps this could be partially attributed to social distancing not being the most effective, rather than how serious the disease is)
- Coronavirus is much more easily transmitted
However, the answer to this isn't to shut down the economy for months on end, which is what some experts are saying what needs to be done in order to largely suppress the threat. A vaccine won't be readily available until 2021 if we are lucky. At some point the government will have to remove the partial lockdown and have the economy run. By the very fact that every single person has to go to a grocery store to buy essentials pretty much, alone gives the population a relatively high chance of contracting it. I won't be surprised if 10x the number of people have it than what is being reported though. Who knows. If that is the case though it would pretty much be at flu levels of mortality. Like I said who knows. However let's consider that adding CV ontop of people who are hospitalized because of flu is not an ideal outcome either in the short-term.
more aggressive tactics most likely will be needed to fight this virus head on, you can't buy time for 18 months until a vaccine comes out.
- Many estimates point the fatality rate to be around 1-2%, 10-20x more than your regular flu
- Flu season has started in October, Coronavirus as far as we know hasn't hit america until about 5 weeks ago (could have gone undetected for months, who knows though)
- Even with all these social distancing measures that we never do for the regular flu, people are still getting infected (but perhaps this could be partially attributed to social distancing not being the most effective, rather than how serious the disease is)
- Coronavirus is much more easily transmitted
However, the answer to this isn't to shut down the economy for months on end, which is what some experts are saying what needs to be done in order to largely suppress the threat. A vaccine won't be readily available until 2021 if we are lucky. At some point the government will have to remove the partial lockdown and have the economy run. By the very fact that every single person has to go to a grocery store to buy essentials pretty much, alone gives the population a relatively high chance of contracting it. I won't be surprised if 10x the number of people have it than what is being reported though. Who knows. If that is the case though it would pretty much be at flu levels of mortality. Like I said who knows. However let's consider that adding CV ontop of people who are hospitalized because of flu is not an ideal outcome either in the short-term.
more aggressive tactics most likely will be needed to fight this virus head on, you can't buy time for 18 months until a vaccine comes out.
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