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[QUOTE=Farley1324 post_id=1602904731]It would take quite an event for world population to decline.

I mean, you want to talk about exponential growth...global human population below...it's basically a vertical line...literally global human population has more than doubled in my parent's lifetime. Literally global human population is up like 1 billion in the last decade.

The current human population growth is the anomaly. Not that it would ever work this way, but if you took our current covid-19 death rate and applied it back in the day, it would result in a global population reduction


[img]https://ourworldindata.org/uploads/2018/11/Annual-World-Population-since-10-thousand-BCE-for-OWID-800x498.png[/ig][/QUOTE]Yeah the world has shutdown during a pandemic in which we've added a net gain of population 5 million more than the entire state of NY....
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Originally Posted By J411
You don't have to be smart to make money like that. You just have to be in the right place at the right time. Not saying these people aren't smart. They are. But you don't have to be. It helps, but not a requirement.
Jack Ma is another example. The idiot is a kfc reject so there’s obviously something wrong with him but he copied other e-commerce ideas and did it at the right time n is now rich. He speaks as an influencer on China as if he’s a genius but he’s fake and only was successful by chance. There’s a video with him n Elon Musk as guest speakers at a conference and you could tell which one is the smart one and which one is the dumb one.
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Originally Posted By J411
Big difference between being a "hedge fund manager" and starting a company that makes billions and billions of dollar and is one of the most valuable companies in the world. To be a hedge fund manager you just need some rich guys to give you money for you to invest. Even an idiot with no training can do it if you can get people to give you money if you can study for a few tests. I have the proper licenses and if you give me the money I could be a hedge fund manager in six months. You don't even need many employees to run a hedge fund. You can outsource a lot of it.

Not the same for starting a tech company with thousands of employees and 30+ years of history. Multiple CEOs. Tons of lawsuits. Tons of disputes. Tons of competitors. ETc etc. Sh*t couldn't be covered up if there was some conspiracy theory.
You be a hedge fund manager that has the kind of success Epstein did. Sure, any one can start John Smith LLC just as any one can pass the financial tests and licensing. Having wildly successful results is a different story.

I’m not saying Microsoft is a complete conspiracy. Just saying perhaps it’s less of a private company than we perceive, and always has been.
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Originally Posted By J411
Big difference between being a "hedge fund manager" and starting a company that makes billions and billions of dollar and is one of the most valuable companies in the world. To be a hedge fund manager you just need some rich guys to give you money for you to invest. Even an idiot with no training can do it if you can get people to give you money if you can study for a few tests. I have the proper licenses and if you give me the money I could be a hedge fund manager in six months. You don't even need many employees to run a hedge fund. You can outsource a lot of it.

Not the same for starting a tech company with thousands of employees and 30+ years of history. Multiple CEOs. Tons of lawsuits. Tons of disputes. Tons of competitors. ETc etc. Sh*t couldn't be covered up if there was some conspiracy theory.
I agree with you on hedge fund managers. And while I would normally agree with you on a business man, I have to disagree here. Gates isn't some standout business man. He had a string of events (that he helped facilitate) and was perfectly positioned with the right product at the right time...and it caught fire. Then he rode that gravy train to billions of dollars in wealth. He is completely incapable of reinventing himself in today's world, and that's been the case for several decades. And yet, some people are silly enough to actually listen to him. Its like watching aspiring musicians hanging on every word of a guy who put out one hot album and rode those songs for the rest of his life.
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Originally Posted By J411
Big difference between being a "hedge fund manager" and starting a company that makes billions and billions of dollar and is one of the most valuable companies in the world. To be a hedge fund manager you just need some rich guys to give you money for you to invest. Even an idiot with no training can do it if you can get people to give you money if you can study for a few tests. I have the proper licenses and if you give me the money I could be a hedge fund manager in six months. You don't even need many employees to run a hedge fund. You can outsource a lot of it.

Not the same for starting a tech company with thousands of employees and 30+ years of history. Multiple CEOs. Tons of lawsuits. Tons of disputes. Tons of competitors. ETc etc. Sh*t couldn't be covered up if there was some conspiracy theory.
I agree with you on hedge fund managers. And while I would normally agree with you on a business man, I have to disagree here. Gates isn't some standout business man. He had a string of events (that he helped facilitate) and was perfectly positioned with the right product at the right time...and it caught fire. Then he rode that gravy train to billions of dollars in wealth. He is completely incapable of reinventing himself in today's world, and that's been the case for several decades. And yet, some people are silly enough to actually listen to him. Its like watching aspiring musicians hanging on every word of a guy who put out one hot album and rode those songs for the rest of his life.
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Originally Posted By wesleysh21
I agree with you on hedge fund managers. And while I would normally agree with you on a business man, I have to disagree here. Gates isn't some standout business man. He had a string of events (that he helped facilitate) and was perfectly positioned with the right product at the right time...and it caught fire. Then he rode that gravy train to billions of dollars in wealth. He is completely incapable of reinventing himself in today's world, and that's been the case for several decades. And yet, some people are silly enough to actually listen to him. Its like watching aspiring musicians hanging on every word of a guy who put out one hot album and rode those songs for the rest of his life.
He's putting his money to good, at least. He is funding vaccine development for Covid.
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Because we all need to be chipped, there is only a 99.8% chance of survival for ages 18-39!

We need chips so Elon Musk's satellite system that will surround the world can ping you in real time for physiological responses. It's not enough we have your DNA on file, every intimate thing you have searched for, every text you sent. It's not enough you cattle, we need to know what your body is doing at what time. This way we can complete the process of knowing what you are doing and where you are every moment of your existence birth til death.
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Originally Posted By PimpMasterC
Reminder that during the spanish flu in 1918 there were also lots of people that said it was nothing to worry about. it´s estimated that up to 50 million died. The disease came in 3 waves, the fist wave being the least deadly.

https://www.influenzaarchive.org/cit...rancisco.html#
this is what im worried about
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN
Looking at raw data like this really takes away from my anxiety lol. 1 out of 8750 Americans have died from covid19.... World population is UP +24,000,000 since 1/1.... I mean....
I know, that's nothing. That's, like, take the Superbowl 2019. Only like 8 people who went to it would have died to covid-19 in the last 3 weeks.
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Originally Posted By Farley1324
I know, that's nothing. That's, like, take the Superbowl 2019. Only like 8 people who went to it would have died to covid-19 in the last 3 weeks.
Thats nothing
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Originally Posted By J411
Big difference between being a "hedge fund manager" and starting a company that makes billions and billions of dollar and is one of the most valuable companies in the world. To be a hedge fund manager you just need some rich guys to give you money for you to invest. Even an idiot with no training can do it if you can get people to give you money if you can study for a few tests. I have the proper licenses and if you give me the money I could be a hedge fund manager in six months. You don't even need many employees to run a hedge fund. You can outsource a lot of it.

Not the same for starting a tech company with thousands of employees and 30+ years of history. Multiple CEOs. Tons of lawsuits. Tons of disputes. Tons of competitors. ETc etc. Sh*t couldn't be covered up if there was some conspiracy theory.
Being a billionaire isn't always about being smart. And college meant sh*t in tech back then.

Does a college education mean **** in tech right now? Its useless.
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Edit: I started a sour dough starter and my fiancé ruined it/ going to start it again monad, any advice?
I think sourdough starters are allergic to me or the creepy crawlies in my kitchen or something. I'd tried my own once, and I even tried feeding a starter I ordered online from King Arthur and they both never ripened and floated! But, you've inspired me to start again, and I'm going to try out this method.

https://slice.seriouseats.com/2010/1...h-starter.html
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Originally Posted By hotsaucebrah
Being a billionaire isn't always about being smart. And college meant sh*t in tech back then.

Does a college education mean **** in tech right now? Its useless.
I actually added that after I wrote it as I figured someone would point out that it matters at least a little bit now in certain situations.

Its worth more than it was back then. Its nice if you want to move up in a company now a days. Its not a requirement but its a lot easier to move into managerial/executive positions if you have a masters +.

Still results/knowledge/skill/connections matter way more than anything.
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Originally Posted By PimpMasterC
Reminder that during the spanish flu in 1918 there were also lots of people that said it was nothing to worry about. it´s estimated that up to 50 million died. The disease came in 3 waves, the fist wave being the least deadly.

https://www.influenzaarchive.org/cit...rancisco.html#
your cliffs are sh!t

The story you linked is about how the San Francisco people fought against wearing masks, which resulted in being one of the hardest hit cities during the flu outbreak
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Originally Posted By 5x10
your cliffs are sh!t

The story you linked is about how the San Francisco people fought against wearing masks, which resulted in being one of the hardest hit cities during the flu outbreak
Why is a quality poster like you even responding to that troll?
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Originally Posted By Farley1324
I know, that's nothing. That's, like, take the Superbowl 2019. Only like 8 people who went to it would have died to covid-19 in the last 3 weeks.
I don't think people in nursing homes go to the superbowl.... There are a lot of fatso NFL fans, though.
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Originally Posted By PimpMasterC
Reminder that during the spanish flu in 1918 there were also lots of people that said it was nothing to worry about. it´s estimated that up to 50 million died. The disease came in 3 waves, the fist wave being the least deadly.

https://www.influenzaarchive.org/cit...rancisco.html#
it’s also over 100 years later so I would hope between more tech, means of communication, and science, we would be able to contain something like that more efficiently..
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Originally Posted By HtotheOV
it’s also over 100 years later so I would hope between more tech, means of communication, and science, we would be able to contain something like that more efficiently..
Not to mention there was also a world war going on at the same time....
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Officials say about 85% of people who contract COVID-19 see only mild symptoms, but 15% — especially older residents and those with underlying conditions

https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/...gn=coronavirus


Good job killing the ecconomy for that
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Let that sink in.
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Originally Posted By HtotheOV
it’s also over 100 years later so I would hope between more tech, means of communication, and science, we would be able to contain something like that more efficiently..
But we use that tech and communication to tell people masks don't help, and they believe it, because they are sheep

We also travel and therefore spread diseases more quickly and efficiently than we did 100 years ago
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b.b..b but it's just the flu man.....government can't keep me indoors...5g towers man.....man made flu in Wuhan dude...….hospitals aren't even busy fella...…..its only a 0.005% death rate buddy...….it's just the powers that be having control over us pal...….
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The possibility of ADE is concerning to say the least.Important info

"ADE of viral entry has been observed and studied extensively in flaviviruses, particularly dengue virus (3–6). It has also been observed in HIV and Ebola viruses (7–10). For these viruses, it has been proposed that primary viral infections of hosts led to production of antibodies that are subneutralizing or nonneutralizing for secondary viral infections; these antibodies cannot completely neutralize secondary viral infections but instead guide virus particles to enter Fc receptor-expressing cells. ADE can lead to worsened symptoms in secondary viral infections, causing major concerns for epidemiology. ADE is also a major concern for vaccine design and antibody-based drug therapy, since antibodies generated or used in these procedures may lead to ADE. ADE has been observed in coronaviruses for decades, but the molecular mechanisms are unknown."

https://jvi.asm.org/content/94/5/e02015-19

Some people have played with the idea that if there is a sufficient ADE mechanism in the novel coronavirus, the death rate might increase to 10-25%. ADE has been observed in other coronaviruses,but it´s not yet established wether it is in SARS CoV 2.


ADE is suspected
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41577-020-0308-3

"Two studies, based on the analysis of 222 and 173 patients with COVID-19, respectively, reported that patients with severe disease frequently had an increased IgG response and a higher titre of total antibodies, which was associated with worse outcome5,9. This was suggestive of possible antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE) of SARS-CoV-2 infection."

Bonus:Kidney and testicular damage found in three clinical datasets
https://archive.is/gFpGT

Thought of the day:If you never get rid of the virus, and if you can always infect other people, and no vaccine or cure is ever made. People who get infected might be in qurantine for the rest of their lives. Maybe on deserted islands with the rest of the infected.
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Originally Posted By HtotheOV
it’s also over 100 years later so I would hope between more tech, means of communication, and science, we would be able to contain something like that more efficiently..
You can see how efficiently this has gone so far. It will only get more orderly and well-considered if the situation gets worse.
Nah, fukk that. I’m not doing that.
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Originally Posted By PimpMasterC
The possibility of ADE is concerning to say the least.Important info

"ADE of viral entry has been observed and studied extensively in flaviviruses, particularly dengue virus (3–6). It has also been observed in HIV and Ebola viruses (7–10). For these viruses, it has been proposed that primary viral infections of hosts led to production of antibodies that are subneutralizing or nonneutralizing for secondary viral infections; these antibodies cannot completely neutralize secondary viral infections but instead guide virus particles to enter Fc receptor-expressing cells. ADE can lead to worsened symptoms in secondary viral infections, causing major concerns for epidemiology. ADE is also a major concern for vaccine design and antibody-based drug therapy, since antibodies generated or used in these procedures may lead to ADE. ADE has been observed in coronaviruses for decades, but the molecular mechanisms are unknown."

https://jvi.asm.org/content/94/5/e02015-19

Some people have played with the idea that if there is a sufficient ADE mechanism in the novel coronavirus, the death rate might increase to 10-25%. ADE has been observed in other coronaviruses,but it´s not yet established wether it is in SARS CoV 2.


Bonus: ADE is suspected
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41577-020-0308-3

"Two studies, based on the analysis of 222 and 173 patients with COVID-19, respectively, reported that patients with severe disease frequently had an increased IgG response and a higher titre of total antibodies, which was associated with worse outcome5,9. This was suggestive of possible antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE) of SARS-CoV-2 infection."

Bonus: Kidney and testicular damage found in three clinical datasets
https://archive.is/gFpGT
can this be transmitted by mosquitoes like dengue? srs

the caribbean will be fuked if they get an outbreak during rain season this summer
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Originally Posted By Beast92
can this be transmitted by mosquitoes like dengue? srs

the caribbean will be fuked if they get an outbreak during rain season this summer
Coronavirus can enter the bloodstream, so there is a possibilty that mosqitos and other insects can infect humans, yes. But there is no evidence of it yet. The new coronavirus also share some similarities to Dengue. Word on the street it´s like a mix of SARS, HIV and Dengue.

It´s also possible that the virus can infect livestock and birds, well basically all animals. It could be very problematic if cows, pigs etc gets infected en mass. I would bet that we will se a lot of animals dropping dead in the next months, as is already reported in china.
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