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post 1603583811 04-27-2020, 12:52 PM
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its a big mess:

-firstly they dont struggle to survive: ez access to welfare, betas, etc

-secondly their instincts want them to only desire sexually the cream of the crop of males

-thirdly they can't do much to seduce and keep the man they want: either accept being a cum dumpster or choose to not have the man at all.
Yes some women are more charming than others, but it's a matter of learning through childhood and being gifted, not something that you can just "try harder"




as in for men, we are the complete opposite:

-even paying the bills sucks if you only make min. wage

-no women wants you unless you are cream of the crop and 90% of us aren't model looking

-fortunatelly we can control the most important parts of our character dating-wise:
*learn game and practice a lot to be confident
*work hard and smart decisions to be wealthy
*work out and wear good clothes to look good



Both men and women have it hard, as always humans never permanently happy. When one has it better than the other, the market eventually corrects itself

But one thing is certain: modern culture has screwed low value males and high value females. With marriage, low value males could actually have a faithful, decent looking woman. Now they can't, because all the low value women are chasing alphas. And guess what? Us alphas are happy with all our options, so we don't want to commit, even to the high value females, who used to be able to keep THE BEST males when there was marriage. Now they must marry down or accept being just a plate.

And most people in here have it real good, if you're not stupid. Frequents the gym, has acess to internet and lives in a 1st world country? Could just raise money for a few years and go be the King in southeast Asia. Maybe you're 4/10 in America, but would be 8/10 in Colombia

Trust me, I live in a developing country. I have 2 to 4 girls on rotation at all times, have had 3 threesomes in the last two years. But when I go travel to Western Europe or USA guess what? I can't get laid
post 1603584711 04-27-2020, 01:02 PM
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"women get tired of it emotionally after a while. most of them don't want to be single. especially once they hit the mid 20s"

Nobody wants washed up women with baggage who are in their mid 20s and are "emotionally tired" of other men. You're coping hard as fuk.

Women should be getting married off by their fathers as teenaged virgins. You're right that it is easy to get women nowadays, but getting them should have relatively nothing to do with the woman's opinion at all. Letting women decide their own partners is disastrous.
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Originally Posted By Voidgaze
You have a point, and this is especially evident on dating apps.

But lets be honest here: Which gender is more likely to lower their standards first?

You know the answer.
agree, but even though men will lower their standard, they still view themselves as better looking than they are and complain constantly that 'women are sloots" and they never get female attention becuase its always some fukking 4/10 going for 8/10 women only. Which is far more pathetic than women complaining about men who they actually fukked but were too hot for them.
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Originally Posted By yewotm8
"women get tired of it emotionally after a while. most of them don't want to be single. especially once they hit the mid 20s"

Nobody wants washed up women with baggage who are in their mid 20s and are "emotionally tired" of other men. You're coping hard as fuk.

Women should be getting married off by their fathers as teenaged virgins. You're right that it is easy to get women nowadays, but getting them should have relatively nothing to do with the woman's opinion at all. Letting women decide their own partners is disastrous.
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post 1603586131 04-27-2020, 01:19 PM
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I talked to a relatively attractive girl about this once - she says that once you're 25 the well pretty much runs dry of descent guys, at least in terms of similar age. She showed me her tinder options, and as she swiped it was just one guy after another (all 24-26) showing signs of arrested development (ie, pics of them holding game console controllers, rick & morty stuff, etc).



I told her the notion of dating someone close in age is a nonsense concept - that if she is no longer viewed as a "catch" by guys in her age range, she should move her sights towards guys that WOULD view her as a catch - meaning dudes in their 30s/40s/50s. Based on her reaction, you'd have thought I had just run over her grandma with my truck. The social conditioning related to dating in your own age group is strong and ultimately limiting.

Ultimately its that same social pressure that's ruining these womens' lives. Go back a generation - if a woman was 17-20, she was already looking forward to this:




Now, that desire doesn't even pop into their heads until they're in their mid-late 20s. Because every movie, tv show, and pop song pushes the idea of "living it up" while you're young and not settling down until later in life.

By the time a woman desires something akin to the below image, it's either too late or their options are ridiculously limited.

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post 1603587171 04-27-2020, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted By LurkoLantern
I talked to a relatively attractive girl about this once - she says that once you're 25 the well pretty much runs dry of descent guys, at least in terms of similar age. She showed me her tinder options, and as she swiped it was just one guy after another (all 24-26) showing signs of arrested development (ie, pics of them holding game console controllers, rick & morty stuff, etc).



I told her the notion of dating someone close in age is a nonsense concept - that if she is no longer viewed as a "catch" by guys in her age range, she should move her sights towards guys that WOULD view her as a catch - meaning dudes in their 30s/40s/50s. Based on her reaction, you'd have thought I had just run over her grandma with my truck. The social conditioning related to dating in your own age group is strong and ultimately limiting.
must be where she lives.

I have seen females swipes where I live theres theres a ****ton of Chads and 8/10 males who make a decent living.
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah
must be where she lives.

I have seen females swipes where I live theres theres a ****ton of Chads and 8/10 males who make a decent living.
Yes, I'll admit location does matter.

This is in south Texas, where the biggest cities are at most 200k to 300k people.

But its a flip-side issue up in say, Chicago or New York. The men can keep serial dating because the well is near unlimited.

Sometimes I think we need to go back to the old matchmaker system of ancient societies.
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Yeah, the misc conveniently forgets this amongst their seething hatred of women. Average misc post: "Im 24 and a 5/10 (but my mom says Im a 10) at best who still lives with my parents (college dropout) while working at some chit retail job, but I kinda work out (chest and bis baby!) and drive some try hard ******* car (yay no rent so all income can go to the ride), so where is my 10/10 hbb who doesn't want me just for my (non existent) money! All women are sloots!"
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah
the main problems people talk about are when both shoot above their league.

Women get tons of attention so they go for the stars when they get attention from a chad 2 points above their /10 scale, then get pissed when he ditches them for someone 2 points higher. If they would stay in their lane and a 6/10 female dated a 6/10 male, they would be treated way better, but no, they save out for the 8/10 male and get butt hurt and "all men are *******s" when he realizes hes wasting his time.


Men are the opposite, they shoot for 8/10s as a 6/10 and claim women are hard to get and they do nothing but cheat and sloot, when if they actually went for a 6/10 as a 6/10 male they would be fine. Also most men rate themselves 2 points higher, where was women rate themselves 2 points lower.
I agree with most of your post, except i STRONGLY disagree with the last paragraph.

If a 6/10 woman gets hits on WEEKLY by 8/10 guys (who lets be honest just want to get their dick wet), they WILL consider themselves 8/10's too. They delude themselves into thinking they are on the same league as the dozens of guys wanting to fuk them.

They dont stop for a second and think "hmmm, maybe this Chad wants to fuk me, but is also messagin another 30 girls?". Nope, never, they automatically assume they deserve him, because hes pursuing them so why wouldnt the girls think they deserve him?

With guys its the opposite. If a guy is 7/10 (clearly above average looking) and tries to talk to a 7/10 woman, she aint having it, because she has a bunch of gigachads wanting to fuk her. She thinks she deserves to be in a relationship with Gigachads, because thats her league (surely it has to be, or why would so many dudes want to fuk her), but she just needs to find the one gigachad with good heart and who is loyal. The guy will get turned down by 7/10s and assume he must not be that good looking, but the problem is that women want the whole package, they want a very attractive man who will also have their life revolve around them, and Chads dont do that unless the woman is absolutely beautiful, A.K.A on their same league, Chads and Stacys.


Dont even get me started in the whole makeup and social media photo angles. A woman can go from a relatively cute 6/10 chick to an 8.5 goddess after two hours of dressing up and taking the perfect picture. Then they decide 8.5/10 is their actual rating and disregard completely how they look first thing in the morning with no makeup and no push up bras or high heels. With men, lets be honest a dude that is 7/10 wont suddenly look like a 9/10 on instagram just because he took a good picture lol. With dudes there is no makeup, there is no push up bras or heels to make himself look taller, with dudes you either are good looking or you arent, thats it.
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Originally Posted By yieldtonothing
this is true also.

by decent guy, i meant decent option. not nice guy.
i think it's important to be a little dangerous on some levels. it's attractive.
Don't worry you'll find the man of your dreams soon. He's there waiting for you somewhere.
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Originally Posted By Ken-O
I agree with most of your post, except i STRONGLY disagree with the last paragraph.

If a 6/10 woman gets hits on WEEKLY by 8/10 guys (who lets be honest just want to get their dick wet), they WILL consider themselves 8/10's too. They delude themselves into thinking they are on the same league as the dozens of guys wanting to fuk them.

They dont stop for a second and think "hmmm, maybe this Chad wants to fuk me, but is also messagin another 30 girls?". Nope, never, they automatically assume they deserve him, because hes pursuing them so why wouldnt the girls think they deserve him?

With guys its the opposite. If a guy is 7/10 (clearly above average looking) and tries to talk to a 7/10 woman, she aint having it, because she has a bunch of gigachads wanting to fuk her. She thinks she deserves to be in a relationship with Gigachads, because thats her league (surely it has to be, or why would so many dudes want to fuk her), but she just needs to find the one gigachad with good heart and who is loyal. The guy will get turned down by 7/10s and assume he must not be that good looking, but the problem is that women want the whole package, they want a very attractive man who will also have their life revolve around them, and Chads dont do that unless the woman is absolutely beautiful, A.K.A on their same league, Chads and Stacys.


Dont even get me started in the whole makeup and social media photo angles. A woman can go from a relatively cute 6/10 chick to an 8.5 goddess after two hours of dressing up and taking the perfect picture. Then they decide 8.5/10 is their actual rating and disregard completely how they look first thing in the morning with no makeup and no push up bras or high heels. With men, lets be honest a dude that is 7/10 wont suddenly look like a 9/10 on instagram just because he took a good picture lol. With dudes there is no makeup, there is no push up bras or heels to make himself look taller, with dudes you either are good looking or you arent, thats it.
I think you are confusing how girls rate themselves with how quality of guys they can get. A girl who views herself as a 7/10 still knows she can pull 9/10s, and will consider her dating pool as 9/10s even though she knows she is a 7/10. She doesnt place her own beauty high on a pedastal, just her possible mates. Usually women dont rate themselves very highly.
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There are a lot of women who really just wanna get on with their lives and stop being used for a hook up.

Actually want companionship, comfort, security, promising future -- so that's why some women are more hesitant to settle / date because a good majority of men are just users (guilty as charged)

But sometimes there's a super unrealistic high standards that they have and basically no one is good enough for them and then they get bitter because of it, and then have a negative attitude towards all men.
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah
I think you are confusing how girls rate themselves with how quality of guys they can get. A girl who views herself as a 7/10 still knows she can pull 9/10s, and will consider her dating pool as 9/10s even though she knows she is a 7/10. She doesnt place her own beauty high on a pedastal, just her possible mates. Usually women dont rate themselves very highly.
lets just agree to disagree bro. All the girls ive known IRL who are good looking on the averageish side consider themselves 9s, and dont you ever dare saying a girl is an 8 because in their minds thats literally being ugly lol.


Doesnt make sense that a woman would consider herself an 7/10 yet only expect to date 9/10s. Thats the whole purpose of leagues lol. Everyone will agree that the best and most succesfull relationships are between people that look aroudn the same on the looks scale. A 7/10 woman would rarely go for a 9/10 man because she knows she would lose him in an instant for a 9/10 woman.

Women date and fuk leagues above, but they dont realize it because social media has deluded them.
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Originally Posted By Sevenlionz
Yeah I've thought about this tbh

Most guys are pretty wack, big betas. If I was a chick I couldn't trust them enough to be able to not only handle their emotions but be non responsive/chill with my crazy female emotions too

Then comes the fact that they are so thirsty that even ugly dudes cheat (man nature)

And the top tier good-looking, emotionally stable, confident and financially independent men don't want to settle down in the first place.

The struggle
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Originally Posted By Ken-O
lets just agree to disagree bro. All the girls ive known IRL who are good looking on the averageish side consider themselves 9s, and dont you ever dare saying a girl is an 8 because in their minds thats literally being ugly lol.


Doesnt make sense that a woman would consider herself an 7/10 yet only expect to date 9/10s. Thats the whole purpose of leagues lol. Everyone will agree that the best and most succesfull relationships are between people that look aroudn the same on the looks scale. A 7/10 woman would rarely go for a 9/10 man because she knows she would lose him in an instant for a 9/10 woman.

Women date and fuk leagues above, but they dont realize it because social media has deluded them.
A guy cant call a 7/10 an 8/10, because all girls want to hear is 10/10 or 9/10. But girls will rate themselves lower.

The reason a girl can be a 7/10 and bang 9/10 dudes is because 9/10 girls are banging 10/10 males, and the 9/10 male will bang 6/10s and up based on what he can get.
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah
A guy cant call a 7/10 an 8/10, because all girls want to hear is 10/10 or 9/10. But girls will rate themselves lower.

The reason a girl can be a 7/10 and bang 9/10 dudes is because 9/10 girls are banging 10/10 males, and the 9/10 male will bang 6/10s and up based on what he can get.
yeah but leagues matter the most when in dating, thats why so many men are strugging. 7/10 women thinking they are 9/10's and can convince a chad to date them and hold him longer than just a few weekends, when in reality Chad will only stay if the woman is also a 9/10.

Women's attraction value is severely overrated on this day and age due to social media, because they dont know their leagues, thats literally the problem. They can easily have sex with men more attractive than them, but they cannot date them because those men are fuking several other girls that look just like she does or better.

They cant have the best of both worlds, but right now women think they can. In 10 years we will look back and see tons of failed marriages, single moms, etc because women thought they could hold Chads and never ever thought about marrying the decent looking dude, until she was old as fuk and she forced that marriage but she didnt want him anyway which will eventually break the marriage.

This is a snowball lol
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Originally Posted By thadderbox
There are a lot of women who really just wanna get on with their lives and stop being used for a hook up.

Actually want companionship, comfort, security, promising future -- so that's why some women are more hesitant to settle / date because a good majority of men are just users (guilty as charged)

But sometimes there's a super unrealistic high standards that they have and basically no one is good enough for them and then they get bitter because of it, and then have a negative attitude towards all men.
Most accurate post I've seen in this thread. Especially for girls in NYC. But I agree men have similar issues. I think it's human nature to overestimate your looks/intelligence/abilities/etc no matter your gender. And social media has skewed people's perceptions of themselves even more, as well as their perceptions of other people's attractiveness.

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Originally Posted By Ken-O
yeah but leagues matter the most when in dating, thats why so many men are strugging. 7/10 women thinking they are 9/10's and can convince a chad to date them and hold him longer than just a few weekends, when in reality Chad will only stay if the woman is also a 9/10.

Women's attraction value is severely overrated on this day and age due to social media, because they dont know their leagues, thats literally the problem. They can easily have sex with men more attractive than them, but they cannot date them because those men are fuking several other girls that look just like she does or better.

They cant have the best of both worlds, but right now women think they can. In 10 years we will look back and see tons of failed marriages, single moms, etc because women thought they could hold Chads and never ever thought about marrying the decent looking dude, until she was old as fuk and she forced that marriage but she didnt want him anyway which will eventually break the marriage.

This is a snowball lol
but thats exactly what im saying with why women complain. They can fukk 9/10 chads but cant keep them unless they are a 9/10, which is the opposite for men. The reason girls can only fukk 9/10 chads but not keep them is they are below a 9/10, but they can still fukk 9/10s. Men on the other hand try for 9/10s but have to settle for 6-7/10s, but complain the 9/10s wont fukk them.

Womens dating pool for sex is higher than their own score which creates problems, mens dating pool for sex is lower than their perceived score which causes problems.


Basically people need to actualize their own attractiveness score and stick with people within that range or below for most success, unfortunately both shoot too high and complain.


This can also explain why women cheat more, they can relationship a dude whos a 6/10 if they are a 6/10 but 9/10 chad comes along and flirts with them for just sex. Dudes on the other hand if they are a 6/10 with a 6/10, 9/10 girls arent going to come around 99% of the time and try and tempt them.
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
Aren’t you saying they are the same then? That on both sides 6/10 shoot for 8/10? And that both should date their own looks match? Why are you saying they are opposite then.
Females: 6/10 female can fuk 8/10 males all day
Males: 6/10 male only hits on 8/10 females, 0 success complains
also Females: 6/10 female gets dropped by every 8/10 male, complains.
Males: 6/10 male lands 6/10 female, 9/10 chad hits on 6/10 female and cheats, SURPRISE , complains female is a sloot
Females: 6/10 female dated 6/10 male, no one hits on 6/10 male, success ensues.


2 different things, 2 different complaints.
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most women aren't worth dating (or worth marrying) so lol at thinking you got to put effort into them

pump and dump till you find one that is worth it

till then work on yourself
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post 1603604641 04-27-2020, 05:52 PM
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post 1603604841 04-27-2020, 05:56 PM
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you're speaking with 100k rep privilege though
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post 1603604861 04-27-2020, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
So it’s the same really. Neither 6/10 can lock down an 8/10.

Actually for men though there’s a way around this with money to basically buy a 8/10 gf.
In regards to locking down its the same but its for opposite reasons.

I was just saying both mean and women complain a lot but I said they BOTH complain for the same reason being they shoot too far out of their league, but for men its because they gauge themselves too high, for women its becuase they think the men they can sleep with are the same men they can cuff.
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post 1603604931 04-27-2020, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah
Females: 6/10 female can fuk 8/10 males all day
Males: 6/10 male only hits on 8/10 females, 0 success complains
also Females: 6/10 female gets dropped by every 8/10 male, complains.
Males: 6/10 male lands 6/10 female, 9/10 chad hits on 6/10 female and cheats, SURPRISE , complains female is a sloot
Females: 6/10 female dated 6/10 male, no one hits on 6/10 male, success ensues.


2 different things, 2 different complaints.
lmao at EVERYONE ITT actually arguing the social science of dating and sex


There is no formula, no scale or anything. There are MILLIONS of variables in this sh*t. You'll see retards and rock trolls with babes and you'll see millionaires with fat chicks. This thread and topic is the epitome of x=/=y
The above post is 100% false
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post 1603604941 04-27-2020, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
Doubt any woman falls for a pump and dump scenario more than a few times. You learn the signs and to be cautious for that.
I know a lot of women who date a disinterested out-of-their-league Chad for 6-18 months, eventually it falls apart (he probably has a rotation), they go on a tinder dink rampage until they get the next Chad to stick around for a bit... repeat. I've met women who have been doing that for 20 years.
post 1603605641 04-27-2020, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted By yieldtonothing
and that if you just put a little bit of work in, you can become a decent option.
most timmies are simps and most chads are douchebags. women get tired of it emotionally after a while. most of them don't want to be single. especially once they hit the mid 20s.
be interesting and get to bare min 75% of your potential looks wise and you're playing in the league. not everyone can develop into a slayer, but most can get in the game imo.
obviously there's no hope for some. that's just life.

speaking as a child of the 90's
Procedure
Step 1. Locate specimen with 20 inch biceps
estep 2. Mate.

Should help solve dilemma.
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