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post 1604107441 05-04-2020, 11:18 AM
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I mean a quick glance at google shows that 40.7% of women aged 20 and older in the States are obese or overweight. Thats 40.7% of females not marriage material.

Women also own 900 billion dollars of the 1.5 trillion dollars in student loan debts. Thats another batch of women made redundant due to the debt they carry.

The fact is that most women are not relationship material anymore. This applies to dudes as well. A quick glance at apps like bumble and you will see that 80% of the chicks on there are looking for something casual or they don’t know. Hence, making me not surprised that marriages have plummeted faster then the stock market during the Great Depression.
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Originally Posted By Ken-O
basically going back to our roots lol, and actually what nature intends to. Chads procreating like crazy with all the women, Timothys and averagecels will be left behind, creating a stronger and better human race.
nah brah. this is myopic in scope. would take a really deep study on "genes" to be able to discern

so.. compare your avg model dude to zuckerberg. which would you say has better "genes"? if you say model then how come he's not using it to make billions? regardless of some things social media are not good for.. look at the jobs he's created, the money he's brought in, etc., etc. how much more he's created and facilitated for society

i think its extremely short sighted to say that the model has better "Genes" simply because he looks a certain way; rather, i think that just speaks toward an infatuation with looks

BTW, i mean this for ANYBODY. im not really honing in on zuckerberg. further, there's even more nuance with it in regard to timing. perhaps zuckerberg grew up a timothy but then by 25 was making billions. where insight peaked into pre-25 would not have been so kind a la "late bloomer"

and yes, i agree with you in terms of raw sexual attraction looks brah will beat zuckerberg but that's maybe 1/10 of the overall contribution of a member of society. i.e. why should looks brah be valued more if zuck nuts contributed significantly more?
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
Yeah agree with this. Marriage goes against male biological drive. I think a goodlooking married man with a lot of options will always have to control his urge to cheat. So it completely depends on the character of the guy whether he is willing and able to control that.
Sure, but same story for the woman who always wants better too.

In the past we had more "safeguards" preventing people from cheating.
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Originally Posted By EoR
But in essence he is sort of correct.

If the higher ups supported it and someone jumped into the crocodile infested river first it could all change back. Sure, it would be anarchy for a while, even years of chaos making people wanting to abandon, but if men were concerted they could take it all back and there would be no-one to stop them. I am not talking about make women subservient, I am talking about taking it back and making everyone accountable for what they have to offer. No special treatment and no reward for continued degenerate behavior.

We've given one side too much media support and OVERPOWER while men every year have become more submissive, effeminate and weaker. So the gap is increasing from both sides.
This all begins with men having self-respect for themselves first, and having control over their bodies.
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Originally Posted By Ken-O
basically going back to our roots lol, and actually what nature intends to. Chads procreating like crazy with all the women, Timothys and averagecels will be left behind, creating a stronger and better human race.
nature isn't that simple. lots of single moms now and you can look up the statistics on kids from single moms. anyone have that image of stats on single moms? something like higher crime rates, drug abuse, etc.
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post 1604109021 05-04-2020, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted By propreffered7
nah brah. this is myopic in scope. would take a really deep study on "genes" to be able to discern

so.. compare your avg model dude to zuckerberg. which would you say has better "genes"? if you say model then how come he's not using it to make billions? regardless of some things social media are not good for.. look at the jobs he's created, the money he's brought in, etc., etc. how much more he's created and facilitated for society

i think its extremely short sighted to say that the model has better "Genes" simply because he looks a certain way; rather, i think that just speaks toward an infatuation with looks

BTW, i mean this for ANYBODY. im not really honing in on zuckerberg. further, there's even more nuance with it in regard to timing. perhaps zuckerberg grew up a timothy but then by 25 was making billions. where insight peaked into pre-25 would not have been so kind a la "late bloomer"

and yes, i agree with you in terms of raw sexual attraction looks brah will beat zuckerberg but that's maybe 1/10 of the overall contribution of a member of society. i.e. why should looks brah be valued more if zuck nuts contributed significantly more?
Intelligent people will still have money and be able to pull and get they share. Zuck wouldn't be an incel.

If nature takes its course good looking and/or high status men will each have multiple wives and the ugly losers get nothing
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Originally Posted By Ken-O
basically going back to our roots lol, and actually what nature intends to. Chads procreating like crazy with all the women, Timothys and averagecels will be left behind, creating a stronger and better human race.
Lol, basically going back to the primitive days. Which is ironic, since the left is saying it’s progress, but it’s all circular.

The way I see it, in a polygamous society. Males with the harem, will be at constant war since he needs the resources to provide for that harem, so he’ll need to take resources from another man that has a harem. You’ll have the bottom Timothy’s who will be the peasant fighting the war.

**** it, I just described Mad Max Fury Road.
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only way for marriage to come back big league is to marry church and state. that won't happen in this godless society.
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It should go to zero. Having the government lock you into a financial contract is comically useless and harmful. Marriage does not need to be synonymous with lifetime monogamous relationship.

“We love each other so much that we are going to have the government legally force us to never leave barring life changing financial consequences”

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Originally Posted By propreffered7
nah brah. this is myopic in scope. would take a really deep study on "genes" to be able to discern

so.. compare your avg model dude to zuckerberg. which would you say has better "genes"? if you say model then how come he's not using it to make billions? regardless of some things social media are not good for.. look at the jobs he's created, the money he's brought in, etc., etc. how much more he's created and facilitated for society

i think its extremely short sighted to say that the model has better "Genes" simply because he looks a certain way; rather, i think that just speaks toward an infatuation with looks

BTW, i mean this for ANYBODY. im not really honing in on zuckerberg. further, there's even more nuance with it in regard to timing. perhaps zuckerberg grew up a timothy but then by 25 was making billions. where insight peaked into pre-25 would not have been so kind a la "late bloomer"

and yes, i agree with you in terms of raw sexual attraction looks brah will beat zuckerberg but that's maybe 1/10 of the overall contribution of a member of society. i.e. why should looks brah be valued more if zuck nuts contributed significantly more?
Point still stands man. Women will always seek for the best, and Timothys and averagecels will eventually be left behind which is like 80% of males.

Besides, women dont want to fuk Zukerberg and fall in love, they just want his money. Nowadays women are making their own money so looks are getting even more important.

Also, jobs created, billions made etc, that helps society but it isnt necessary for natural selection. People dont need billions, or ******** to live. Yes its important now but we could happily live without those things, but looks? Looks have always mattered.

You are looking from the perspective of what society needs and i agree with you. However, as it has clearly been shown in the last few years, nature doesnt care that much.
Originally Posted By SportCoat
nature isn't that simple. lots of single moms now and you can look up the statistics on kids from single moms. anyone have that image of stats on single moms? something like higher crime rates, drug abuse, etc.
yeah, single moms are increasing every single year, which proves my point. We slowly going back to the times when the alpha caveman had 10 hairy sluts and 100 babies lol.

Now im not saying its the ideal world, that doesnt help society move forward whatsoever. Im just saying thats what nature intends to, for only the best genes to pass on to the next generations. Natural selection strikes you from all angles, survival, breeding, etc.

Society will eventually have to find a way to fulfill both natural selection and society's needs because clearly we dont need a bunch of emotionally abused kids running around.
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Originally Posted By yieldtonothing
only way for marriage to come back big league is to marry church and state. that won't happen in this godless society.
Good

We don’t want no fairy tales running chit

The Christians already rape tons of kids as it is, imagine if they had total control
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
Well I disagree. In some circles, especially more affluent ones, it’s considered completely normal and expected for the men to have affairs and cheat on business trips. And the wives are expected to either not find out or to ignore it while they tend to the kids and decorating the big house etc.

Same with athletes and celebrities. It’s just pretty much expected that they will cheat because they just have so many options. They are not really judged harshly for that at all.
Well of course nobody cares about men cheating. Look at all the presidents, well maybe except for Obama, JFK even said something like he needs to have sex everyday or he'll get a headache. Nobody cared about his cheating nor anyone else's after him.
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Why? What is more marriage going to prove?
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Originally Posted By Cass40
Well of course nobody cares about men cheating. Look at all the presidents, well maybe except for Obama, JFK even said something like he needs to have sex everyday or he'll get a headache. Nobody cared about his cheating nor anyone else's after him.
Yes the top 1% of men can get away with it since they are so desired. Average dudes not so much.
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there really is no use theorizing it much past the fact that marriage is a bad deal for at least one of the parties involved 100% of the time, and with the amount of options available to most of us combined with the state of american society/economy, it's just a gamble that gets harder and harder to take as time goes on (for not much of an actual payoff.)
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So what does the future look like? Is the lure of pron and onlyfans enough to keep the bottom 80% wageceling like good little worker bees? These men will never procreate, never have a long term partner, nada. Their only sexual outlet will be masturbation.
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken
So what does the future look like? Is the lure of pron and onlyfans enough to keep the bottom 80% wageceling like good little worker bees? These men will never procreate, never have a long term partner, nada. Their only sexual outlet will be masturbation.
Yes but you can also find random hookups from tinder if you feel like it, just to switch it up.
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Originally Posted By Cass40
Yes but you can also find random hookups from tinder if you feel like it, just to switch it up.
Tinder is mostly for women to find Chads. Most dudes get near 0 matches.
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Originally Posted By northernlights7
Lol women cheat just as much, if nor more so than men. For one thing, a man busted for cheating is considered a much bigger azzhole by society than a woman cheating on a man. Women are far more likely to be looked upon with a sense of sympathy over it, like "He must not have been paying enough attention to her!" Obviously she'll catch *some* heat over it if everyone in their families viewed him as a great guy, but nothing like the grief a guy would get foe it. Can you imagine anyone defending a guy for cheating under any circumatances? Even if they knew the guy's wife had totally quit putting out for him, they wouldn't be saying "Well maybe she should have S'd hia D once in awhile."

Furthermore, I'd venture to say that women always cheated as much as men even before women were "empowered" by joining the work force. You really think that zero wives were banging the milk man or the neighhor guy on the down-low back in the day when their husbands were at work and they got bored? Sure, lack of contraceptives might have made them more hesitant to cheat based on not wanting a kid by the wrong guy. But that's cancelled out by the fact that there were also no paternity tests to potentially expose women who didn't care if they cucked their husbands.
Research shows that men cheat more than women.. just google it brah.
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken
Tinder is mostly for women to find Chads. Most dudes get near 0 matches.
Oopps my bad, I just realized that.
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Marriage was never natural in the first place. It was invented to make women the property of men and force them to not bang other dudes. Did it have a positive effect on society? Hell yeah it did. But it's not natural and it's only been around for the past few thousand years, which is a tiny fraction of human history
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Originally Posted By Omnivium
Marriage was never natural in the first place. It was invented to make women the property of men and force them to not bang other dudes. Did it have a positive effect on society? Hell yeah it did. But it's not natural and it's only been around for the past few thousand years, which is a tiny fraction of human history
There's going to be a massive dropoff in male productivity. Imagine being a zoomer. College is $200k, starter homes are $1M, jobs pay poverty, half the girls you know already make 6 figures on onlyfans. Fuarrrrk. Might as well just do netflix and pronhub.
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken
There's going to be a massive dropoff in male productivity. Imagine being a zoomer. College is $200k, starter homes are $1M, jobs pay poverty, half the girls you know already make 6 figures on onlyfans. Fuarrrrk. Might as well just do netflix and pronhub.
Women think this benefits them, but most of them dont realize that in the long run this **** is going to hurt them equally or even worse than it will hurt men.

Sure, right now they can fuk Chad every day, and go on dates with the top looking men/richest or whatever, their sexual market value is at an all time high but as seen ITT marriage is at an all time low.

Chad cant marry 20 girls, marriage isnt Tinder lol. Women will eventually find out about this, and then they will have to settle at 30 years old for the next best thing witch is Timothy.
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken
Yes the top 1% of men can get away with it since they are so desired. Average dudes not so much.
That's not even the top 1%. Tons of celebrity males received major backlash for cheating. Kobe Bryant, Jude Law, and Tiger Woods just to name a few. All spent lost millions in divorce or spent millions asking for forgiveness.

Maybe 0.01% of males no one cares because of their status and personality they escape criticism, but it's definitely a very very tiny fraction. Plenty of female cheaters out there enough that it's gotta be close to 50/50 between the sexes.
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
Yeah modern civilization changed that through religion because it needs a larger work force of obedient men. So basically the plan was to assign each man a woman as his own.

So the men would be content and their basic sexual desires are met so the men would not revolt but would be content to just work hard to provide for the woman and kids. Thus creating a large obedient controlled work force kept content with sex from their allocated woman and kept tied down by financial obligations like family and mortgage etc.

Worked great for a long time but it relied on both religion and women not being able to work. And all that has changed now.
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Originally Posted By Contribution05
That's not even the top 1%. Tons of celebrity males received major backlash for cheating. Kobe Bryant, Jude Law, and Tiger Woods just to name a few. All spent lost millions in divorce or spent millions asking for forgiveness.
Cultural factors are why that happens. by nature, we value men who fuk tons of women and approve of it. and women want the guy whos fuking all the women because its an indicator of value
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken
So what does the future look like? Is the lure of pron and onlyfans enough to keep the bottom 80% wageceling like good little worker bees? These men will never procreate, never have a long term partner, nada. Their only sexual outlet will be masturbation.
I think society will need to address it honestly, maybe with legal prostitution. But other than that you'll just have a lot of men not giving a fuk and NEETing
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