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Originally Posted By rikugunchusa
this stupid fukking meme again. this disproportionate amount is because of overpolicing

Let's assume you are the head of police.

You have 2 different neighborhoods. One is High Income, one is lower income.
Lower income communities have historically had higher crime rates. example, the russain murder rate is like 3x that of americas.

Soyou see that there is more crime there, and send most of your boys to police that neighborhood. Few years pass
Crime report is done, and its found that the poorer community is commiting more crimes. The reason for that is becausethere are MORE POLICE AROUND TO CATCH THOSE CRIMES.
This is substantiated by blacks and whites consuming marijuana at around the same level but blacks somehow have 2x the incarceration rate for it. More incarceration -> increased poverty -> increased crime. Cycle repeats
Wait... so was there more crime there or was there more cops there catching the crimes?

You can't even get your own argument to make any sense.


What you're trying to say is there's equal crimes in the two neighborhoods but cops are sent to the poorer communities catching those crimes making it appear there are more. That's the argument you're TRYING to make and doing so very poorly.

Not that this argument would even hold, because it'd be entirely inaccurate even if you did correctly spin it this way.


The real truth is just like you said. There is more crime in poorer communities so more cops are sent there to reflect more crime and it's the greater degree of crime committed that raises those rates, not just cause police are sent there.

If you dispersed equal numbers of police to all areas, those poor areas would still have higher arrests for crime. What would also happen is you'd see a lot more crime go unpunished because you inadequately allocated more resources to areas that didn't need those resources in the first place.
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this is the end stage of the 70 year communist infiltration of western institutions post ww2. we should have listened to patton and drove those red sons of bitches into the pacific.
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Originally Posted By JaxBrah
yea, its called in a home with a father. goes for any race.

but it only hurts the black community when they are told by everyone in their life that theres a boogie man keeping them down. why would they even try if thats what they believe?
I always wonder why no one talks about the damage that BLM does to their own communities with their messaging. Stereotype threat is a scientific, proven fact. Tell people their entire lives that they're a victim of circumstance, oppressed by the government and everyone else is keeping them down and that they need everyone else's charity to survive... and they'll believe it and embody it. These narratives hurt black people. I've seen people post on social media about how due to the current riots they're "so sad I had to tell my 5 year old that people hate him because of his skin". How TF is that kid supposed to succeed in life with that kind of messaging his entire life?

Also why does no on talk about how asians have suffered an absolute shtload of racism the entire time America's been a country and yet not only do they have no time for victimization but they're the most economically successful race and coincidentally racism against asians has been decreasing as they become more and more successful.
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Originally Posted By meep316
Facts matter. Statistics matter.

George Floyd was killed wrongfully and literally everyone wants justice for him. I haven't seen one single person arguing otherwise.

However every single protest going on right now is based on the narrative that police are disproportionately killing/shooting black people, and it's not true by any statistical measure whatsoever.



We also have uninformed influential public figures like Lebron James tweeting things like "We are literally hunted every time we leave our house.":



That is obviously not true. And when it comes to overall violence, not just police violence, it's actually emphatically the other way around, if anything:




You can blame it on socioeconomic reasons, the high rate of single fatherhood in the black community, poverty, whatever you want. That's an entirely different conversation where I do actually believe there are legitimate gripes of injustices. However the bottom line is the numbers are what they are, and black people commit overwhelmingly disproportionate amounts of violent crime, whether it's black on black or black on white. It's not even fukking close.

The media cherrypicks incidents where black people are the victim and amplifies them to the sheep, clueless public, in an effort to portray the country as systematically racist. Whereas if you look at actual statistics, it's literally the exact opposite.



You have *******s like Ice Cube, asking how long they're going to go before striking back:



You've been striking back and then some for 40 years. More police were killed by black men in the last 2 years than police have killed unarmed black men:




[color=red]All of this is not to discredit anyone's personal experiences with racial profiling or racism, which I condemn totally. It's to dispel the media's false narratives ONLY. Every person should be treated fairly as an individual. But the narrative of overarching disproportionate targeting is emphatically not true by any statistical measure whatsoever.[color]



The reason the media pushes these false narratives is to portray America as racist so that they can push propaganda for leftists/the Democratic Party. The reason they need to do this is because leftist/Democrat policies do not hold up to any scrutiny on their own, so they instead attempt to gain votes by portraying the other side as racist. They prey on the simpleton mindss of the general public, of all races but particularly white guilt ridden liberals, and it's worked because nobody cares to do their own research and they all want to gain virtue signaling cuck points on social media by posting hashtags and black squares. Colleges and p3do-protecting Hollywood are in the back pocket of the left, brainwashing college aged white people who have never set foot in a majority black neighborhood in their lives, and never will.

The media wants to divide black people and white people and I'm not falling for it. There have been plenty of black people I've seen online who are not taking the bait. You also have Antifa now coming in and causing all kinds of destruction. I've seen plenty of videos of black peaceful protestors catching scrawny antifa *******s and stopping them from causing destruction. This is NOT black people vs white people, it's the left and their brainwashed people, vs normal people of all races. Everyone should be treated as an individual, the absolute LAST thing the media wants is for white and black people living in harmony, lawful gun owners of all races standing together protecting their homes and livelihoods.

THEY DO NOT WANT YOU TO SEE THIS:





Regarding the issue of "WE'RE PROTESTING BECAUSE HE HASN'T EVEN BEEN ARRESTED YET!!!!":


A lot of the "protestors" were "protesting" because Derek Chauvin hadn't been arrested within the first few days of him killing George Floyd. This is because authorities need to INVESTIGATE the crime. If they don't investigate and they rush charging him, they either risk overcharging him and him getting off completely, or they are forced to undercharge him to ensure any kind of conviction, which leads to him getting off easy, which again NOBODY wants.

Everyone clamoring for them to arrest and charge Chauvin, well it's recently been revealed that Chauvin and Floyd actually worked together in the past and may have known each other. A full thorough investigation, could find that Chauvin and Floyd may have had some kind of beef, and that there was some kind of intent behind why he kneeled on his kneck for 10 minutes straight for no reason. Guess what? That'd bring a 3rd degree murder charge, to a FIRST degree murder charge, which would lead to Chauving going away for LIFE. But people would rather loot and burn down small (mostly black owned) businesses and sucker punch white people in 10 on 1 gang attacks, than wait for the investigation to play out, because we live in a society of small minded fukking retarded sheep who believe everything the media and ******* celebrities on twitter tell them.

This is not a black/white race thing. In July 2017, black Minneapolis police officer Mohamed Noor wrongfully shot and killed a completely innocent white woman named Justine Damond/Ruszczyk. It took them 8 months to complete the investigation. For those 8 months, Noor was on paid administrative leave, as per the rules of the police officers union (which is the right thing to do because if an officer is innocent they shouldn't have to go 8 months without income).

Here is the wikipedia article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooti...Justine_Damond

And the article announcing the conclusion of the investigation and Noor's arrest/charging 8 months later:

https://www.twincities.com/2018/03/2...mond-shooting/





David Dorn was a 77 year old retired police captain, who happened to be black. He was shot in the head and killed by looters last night for having the gall to try to help protect a friend's pawn shop from being looted by the scum of the Earth. Nobody is chanting his name tonight, because it doesn't fit a narrative. His life mattered, yet nobody outside of a small sector of rational people on twitter seem to give a fraction of a chit or a fukk.





Here's where you can donate to Dorn's family. $124,000 has already been raised but let's get that number up. SHARE THIS because the mainstream ******* cuck media will NOT:

https://fundly.com/captain-david-dorn-memorial-fund




CLIFFS:

-The mainstream media and Hollywood are pushing false narratives on racial violence in order to propagandize for the Democratic Party because they can't get votes on their weak cuck policies

-Read the thread and educate yourselves you stupid *******.
Great post OP

The Coronavirus sham opened up a lot of people’s eyes to the media manipulation which gets compounded by simpletons baahhing like sheep on social media, in order to virtues signal to their friends.

I can speak personally of at least 3 liberals that I know of that has their eyes opened during this whole experience.
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The more and more i see, the more and more i think the media is the true enemy in this country.

i suggest everyone go watch the most recent DrinkinBros podcast. It's sickening when you start see what is *not* getting reported versus what is.
Originally Posted By iHateDeadlifts
>OP talks about statistics

> doesn’t link a single peer reviewed journal about cops, racism or African Americans in this country


I’m pretty sure 99% of y’all who like to sound smart with statistics can’t even figure out how do to a simple chi square analysis.

ANYONE can manipulate statistics, have you guys never attended and took a Stats class at university? That is why we have peer reviewed journals to make sure people aren’t talking out of their azzes.
If this is your response to the OP, you've completely missed the point of the post. Maybe you need to go back to the universities you toss out and get some english and reading comprehension classes in.
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Originally Posted By Benji
You forgot to mention that George Floyd had a prior arrest (among many others) for breaking into the home of a pregnant black woman (by pretending to be from the water department) and beating her senseless with a pistol in front of her 1 year old daughter and robbing her house. He also pointed the gun at her pregnant belly when she said she didn't have any money or drugs. And feminists are sharing pictures and tributes in his honour. ****ing lol.

How come NO ONE no one at all talks about this? No media NO one on social media no one?

Yes it does not justify anything BUT this man was a bad man a terrible man actually but he is being praised.

I’m so confused
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Originally Posted By Tough92
How come NO ONE no one at all talks about this? No media NO one on social media no one?

Yes it does not justify anything BUT this man was a bad man a terrible man actually but he is being praised.

I’m so confused
Yeah it boils my blood anytime someone calls him a Gentle Giant. He has been in jail at least 5 times for sure. I have seen other claims of as many as 9 stints. He has all his friends speaking out and saying what a great guy he was. If I spent years in prison and held up a pregnant lady at gun point I would have no friends. If any of my friends did that they would be dead to me.
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Originally Posted By iHateDeadlifts
>OP talks about statistics

> doesn’t link a single peer reviewed journal about cops, racism or African Americans in this country


I’m pretty sure 99% of y’all who like to sound smart with statistics can’t even figure out how do to a simple chi square analysis.

ANYONE can manipulate statistics, have you guys never attended and took a Stats class at university? That is why we have peer reviewed journals to make sure people aren’t talking out of their azzes.
Here’s one of the biggest studies done on the subject, by a black Harvard professor. The most notable part of the study was its finding that there was no evidence of racial bias in police shootings, which Fryer called “the most surprising result of [his] career”.

https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/fr...es_figures.pdf


Also a study done by John Jay college came to the same conclusion.
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LOL @ the racists still coping and making excuses.

Says a lot about a person when you they can watch a cop kill a restrained handcuffed person laying on the ground and still come out the wood work with excuses.

I dont think this case is strictly racist but it again shows racial bias from the police.

Brings to light the harassment, abuse of power,, and lack of accountability that the Police have.
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Originally Posted By Fozzy13
LOL @ the racists still coping and making excuses.
How can statistics be racist?
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Good post op. We are all humans. Your skin color doesn’t make you better or worse than anyone else. This whole situation is a media driven narrative.
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Originally Posted By Tough92
How come NO ONE no one at all talks about this? No media NO one on social media no one?

Yes it does not justify anything BUT this man was a bad man a terrible man actually but he is being praised.

I’m so confused
Because "feels" What happened to George Floyd was wrong and should not have happened but the man was no saint but that's the environment created by the media and racial instigators like Al Sharpton who have made it so if you say anything that could be seen as negative or critical of a black person, even when it's truth, the knee jerk reaction from everyone is REEEEEE racist REEEEE
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Originally Posted By Benji
You forgot to mention that George Floyd had a prior arrest (among many others) for breaking into the home of a pregnant black woman (by pretending to be from the water department) and beating her senseless with a pistol in front of her 1 year old daughter and robbing her house. He also pointed the gun at her pregnant belly when she said she didn't have any money or drugs. And feminists are sharing pictures and tributes in his honour. ****ing lol.

Don't forget about his p0rn career.

https://mtonews.com/george-floyd-was...online-graphic
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Originally Posted By Fozzy13
LOL @ the racists still coping and making excuses.

Says a lot about a person when you they can watch a cop kill a restrained handcuffed person laying on the ground and still come out the wood work with excuses.
Your brain doesn't work as designed does it?
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Originally Posted By AngusMcFifeXIII
Your brain doesn't work as designed does it?
More than your ignorant brain does.
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Originally Posted By Fozzy13
More than your ignorant brain does.
irony right here
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Lol @ this thread.

Statistics can be manipulated especially by those in power to make oppressed seem deserving of their oppression (ie see Hitler and the Jew)

Bottom line is African Americans were forced to live in ghettos which were over policed. Early police forces were heavily infiltrated by the KKK and White supremacy groups (Yes this is a fact). Early klan members aka the police were running around abusing framing and falsely arresting African Americans in those ghettos. They were arresting black people for the most trivial **** like jaywalking. Fast forward to 2020 and these new police officers are following in the traditions of their KKK brethren.

In simple black neighborhoods are overpoliced and police have inherent bias.
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Originally Posted By Blasting
How can staratistics be racist?
Not arguing the statistics but most posted are irrelevant.

The larger issue is Police violence.

THis issue doesnt have anything to do w/ civilan vs civilian.

THis is about a cop murdering an unarmed man on video.

I will be the first to admit that there are issues within black culture than should be addressed but that is an entirely separate issue but does factor into the racial bias in america and only exacerbates the underlying issue with police.
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Originally Posted By ChrolloDH
Lol @ this thread.

Statistics can be manipulated especially by those in power to make oppressed seem deserving of their oppression (ie see Hitler and the Jew)

Bottom line is African Americans were forced to live in ghettos which were over policed. Early police forces were heavily infiltrated by the KKK and White supremacy groups (Yes this is a fact). Early klan members aka the police were running around abusing framing and falsely arresting African Americans in those ghettos. They were arresting black people for the most trivial **** like jaywalking. Fast forward to 2020 and these new police officers are following in the traditions of their KKK brethren.

In simple black neighborhoods are overpoliced and police have inherent bias.
So whats your opinion on the simple point of the post that the media is the real problem here? And is driving excessive hate and discontent?

See my question below.
Originally Posted By Fozzy13
Not arguing the statistics but most posted are irrelevant.

The larger issue is Police violence.

THis issue doesnt have anything to do w/ civilan vs civilian.

THis is about a cop murdering an unarmed man on video.

I will be the first to admit that there are issues within black culture than should be addressed but that is an entirely separate issue but does factor into the racial bias in america and only exacerbates the underlying issue with police.
Weird. The point is the media is the real enemy and making things 10000000x worse by reporting nothing but the negatives and what sells. Further creating divide.

What's your take on that?
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Originally Posted By twovalvekid
irony right here
Excellent opinion. Stick to the gym. A persons view cant be changed if they fail to see the obvious. Ignorant people like you will continue to remain in your bubble.

I was born/raised conservative and will remain conservative but time and time again this chit happens with police. Enough of it.
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Originally Posted By ChrolloDH
Lol @ this thread.

Statistics can be manipulated especially by those in power to make oppressed seem deserving of their oppression (ie see Hitler and the Jew)

Bottom line is African Americans were forced to live in ghettos which were over policed. Early police forces were heavily infiltrated by the KKK and White supremacy groups (Yes this is a fact). Early klan members aka the police were running around abusing framing and falsely arresting African Americans in those ghettos. They were arresting black people for the most trivial **** like jaywalking. Fast forward to 2020 and these new police officers are following in the traditions of their KKK brethren.

In simple black neighborhoods are overpoliced and police have inherent bias.
Did this black Harvard professor manipulate his statistics?

https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/fr...es_figures.pdf
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Originally Posted By Fozzy13
Excellent opinion. Stick to the gym. A persons view cant be changed if they fail to see the obvious. Ignorant people like you will continue to remain in your bubble.

I was born/raised conservative and will remain conservative but time and time again this chit happens with police. Enough of it.
Calls people they dont know, on the internet, ignorant. Obviously trying to point out their mental prowess and lack of ignorance.

I'd beg to differ.
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Originally Posted By Blasting
Did this black Harvard professor manipulate his statistics?

https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/fr...es_figures.pdf
So police don’t commit acts of violence against AA?

Why are you guys trying to refute things that are common knowledge. Things that are on video. Things black people have been complaining about for 100 years now.

They just made this **** up. Just cause?
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Originally Posted By ChrolloDH
So police don’t commit acts of violence against AA?
Who's saying they dont?
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Originally Posted By twovalvekid
So whats your opinion on the simple point of the post that the media is the real problem here? And is driving excessive hate and discontent?

See my question below.



Weird. The point is the media is the real enemy and making things 10000000x worse by reporting nothing but the negatives and what sells. Further creating divide.

What's your take on that?
The media is only reporting what AA and Hispanics have known forever. The police are a violent racist gang.
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Originally Posted By ChrolloDH
The media is only reporting what AA and Hispanics have known forever. The police are a violent racist gang.
So you dont think theyre doing anything to fan the flames? That's an interesting take.
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it’s about police brutality not white on black crime.

Not the same thing
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Originally Posted By ChrolloDH
So police don’t commit acts of violence against AA?

Why are you guys trying to refute things that are common knowledge. Things that are on video. Things black people have been complaining about for 100 years now.

They just made this **** up. Just cause?
Strawman.

Of course they happen. But the statistics suggest that police brutality doesn’t happen any more to black people than it does to white people.
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Originally Posted By TinderGame
it’s about police brutality not white on black crime.

Not the same thing
No it’s not. Sure some of it is just strictly about police brutality but a majority of the conversation right now is about black people being mistreated. Hence the black squares and every company posting “black lives matter”.
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Originally Posted By Blasting
Strawman.

Of course they happen. But the statistics suggest that police brutality doesn’t happen any more to black people than it does to white people.
According to the stats of police shootings?

Note, shootings.

Clue me in on the stats, not being douchey, or baiting, I wanna see if they can be picked apart to make an argument.
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