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post 1607706331 06-14-2020, 07:34 AM
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To the person who negged me, who told me this is all my imagination.


Here is a short video about a former UK Prime Minister. Even the police say that there are enoughcredible claims, that he would be arrested and questioned.

BBC News showing a police press conference talking about Edward Heath...




Channel 4 News, report about a victim talks about being 'groomed' in a VIP ring (3 people who ran the boys home, were convicted of grooming)...




Channel 4 reporting about an investigation from UK police into a VIP grooming ring. Even the police believe the claims are credible...




Those are mainstream media news stations and journalists, who take the allegations of grooming rings very seriously, and report that the police are taking them seriously. You can't simply dismiss them as being kooks.



After that, then please go to23:54 of the following videoand listen to a UK police whistle-blower,who used to work for Elite UK police force Scotland Yard, working on 'grooming circles'.

He openly talks about having his investigations into theexact same grooming rings discussed in those mainstream media clipswas stopped by higher ranking officers...




It's only hard to believe, if you turn your head away and refuse to look.
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Originally Posted By BredRoller⏩
Interesting threads OP.

What is the way forward? Specifically for people who want to be more than average and make real change to these kinds of things. Is that even possible?
Speaking generally You can never make it above upper middle class while living a morally righteous life. The societal rules in place on wealth accumulation are in direct contradiction to a traditional biblical view on morality. Once you reach a certain level you will start consorting with amoral or immoral people more often in your dealings, because those people exclusively make up the upper echelons of society.

There are literal boundaries in place that stop you from reaching the top levels by limiting access to the people who control the money you need to reach those levels. Infidelity, weekend retreats where occult rituals take place, prostitution, rape, ****philia, murder, etc. etc. it’s all an initiation to make sure there is the same level of dirt on you as everyone else on top so if you decide to “turn” on the elite you are going down with them.
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
Please do not try to use this thread to spread Anarcho-capitalist political theory. If that is what you are attempting to do.
Just a question for a moralist.

Shouldnt your world view begin with a moral foundation if you want to battle "evil"?
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Just a question for a moralist.

Shouldnt your world view begin with a moral foundation if you want to battle "evil"?
What would you define as evil?


OP, what would you define as evil?
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Just a question for a moralist.?
I don't think it was an innocent question.

There seemed to be a clear presupposition against the concept of government.

Please do not use this thread to promote your political philosophy, if that is what you are trying to do.

You didn't mentioned anything about the subject matter, and you have done this kind of thing before.
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Originally Posted By Suit⏩
OP, what would you define as evil?
Intentional unnecessary harm, and a lack of concern regarding if you create unnecessary harm. (e.g. people who sell crack, and don't care what it does to people or families, because they only care about themselves and/or group).

I believe that evil comes from illusion or lies though. I think that if we all saw the truth (God's nature, the Love of God for all of creation, and Love as a Cosmic force - like Ilio Delio describes) we would not desire to do unnecessary harm. "Satan is the father of lies" allegorically or literally I believe that brilliantly describes the core of evil - a lie/illusion.
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
I don't think it was an innocent question.

There seemed to be a clear presupposition against the concept of government.

Please do not use this thread to promote your political philosophy, if that is what you are trying to do.

You didn't mentioned anything about the subject matter, and you have done this kind of thing before.
You're talking about good and evil. What does someone who cant justify the morality of their own world view really know about evil? I think the obvious answer is nothing and this is an exercise in mental masterbation for you but I am open to tue possibility, as small as it may be, that I'm wrong.
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I am always enthralled by this stuff. The purest form of evil is taking away someone’s innocence, and this **** goes deeper than any of us want to admit.
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I hope and pray that the conspiracies are all false because this is some seriously dark chit....
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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport⏩
I hope and pray that the conspiracies are all false because this is some seriously dark chit....
Its like an evil pyramid and we are its base, and people like opie that respond to criticisms of their own immorality with lame moral relativism that presupposes there is no evil are the cancer that perpetuates it
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
This is quite amusing coming from someone who thinks that children are property owned like people own vacuum cleaners, and that child neglect and abuse are simply rights of property owners. I'd say downright hilarious actually, on recharge
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Originally Posted By isingmodel⏩
This is quite amusing coming from someone who thinks that children are property owned like people own vacuum cleaners, and that child neglect and abuse are simply rights of property owners. I'd say downright hilarious actually, on recharge
All that guy seems to care about is recruiting people to his political philosophy of anarcho-capitalism.

Please ignore him, ITT.
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
All that guy seems to care about is recruiting people to his political philosophy of anarcho-capitalism.

Please ignore him, ITT.
Yeah I just thought pointing out the hilarity of someone who thinks human children and vacuum cleaners are moral equivalents, coming into an unrelated thread to larp about morality and not so subtly shill anarcho-p£dophilism is comedy gold
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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport⏩
I hope and pray that the conspiracies are all false because this is some seriously dark chit....
Unfortunately, as you can see from the actual convictions, it's not false.

The conspiracy is the lack of the VIPs being convicted (only the non-VIP people involved get convicted).

2 Examples....


The Finders Cult

If you check out the Finders Cult Documentary that I linked, the admission from the CIA of helping to start it (they said that it was a proxy that went bad) and the released FBI documents, strongly, strongly suggest the there was a cover up. Evidence was destroyed, denied, and Doctor's examinations that concluded 'grooming' trauma on the kids, was ignored.

The later declassified FBI report openly shows that an investigating Police Detective concluded that the Finders Cult was a CIA asset...

1) Intro to the Finders cult...

https://www.bitchute.com/video/QwDxfoHaEqQ/

2) The FBI files released after the above documentary, show the strong likelihood of the cult being an intelligence community assest (his wife worked for the CIA, his son worked for the CIA, and some of the followers worked for companies that worked with the CIA).

https://www.bitchute.com/video/_6qNWZExbh4/


The case of the Finders cult honestly remind me of Epstein... A likely intelligence community asset, that created a 'grooming' ring...

https://lbry.tv/@Exposing-The-Deep-S...in-Was-A-Spy:c


Jimmy Saville

People warned about Saville for years (he even groped a girl on National TV, she was 18 years old). He literally (I swear) even admitted in his autobiography what he was doing...

"In one example, Savile – who died last October aged 84 – describes an encounter with a young runaway from a remand home who was being hunted by the police.

He said: “A high-ranking lady police officer came in one night and showed me a picture of an attractive girl who had run away from a remand home.

“‘Ah,’ says I all serious, ‘if she comes in I’ll bring her back tomorrow but I’ll keep her all night first as my reward’.” Savile describes how the girl came to one of his dances that evening and stayed the night with him before he handed her over.

He added: “The officeress was dissuaded from bringing charges against me by her colleagues for it was well known that were I to go, I would probably take half the station with me.”"

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/u...-pages-1359536

Note, they would not bring charges against him for sleeping with a girl under the age of consent.

Hidden in plain sight. A friend to royalty and politicians, Jimmy Saville.



I highly recommend watching the documentary UK's Hidden Shadows...

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Also, you should dig on Maggie Nixon. Things get disturbing once you start looking into the Vanderbilt family.

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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
All that guy seems to care about is recruiting people to his political philosophy of anarcho-capitalism.

Please ignore him, ITT.
Its very interesting that all I have to do is say morality and your mind immediately goes to anarcho capitalism.

I guess your lack of an answer as to why we should take you seriously tells us everything.

Anywho, good luck with your LARP battle against evil
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I don't believe in spirits and ghosts and religion and all that because I never seen any evidence of it. But I do believe that Epstein was a spy for Mossad and used "grooming" to blackmail high level politicians on behalf of Mossad.
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Ephesians 6:2

For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world-rulers of this darkness, against the spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.



^ Paul is saying this **** goes deeper than you think.
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Originally Posted By tecom⏩
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Originally Posted By Briangumble⏩
I don't believe in spirits and ghosts and religion and all that because I never seen any evidence of it.
Fair enough.

The thing is though... They do. And it influences their behaviour.
But I do believe that Epstein was a spy for Mossad and used "grooming" to blackmail high level politicians on behalf of Mossad.
It's amazing there is no real digging from the mainstream media, and outrage about Mossad running operations on US soil.

They constantly talk about China and Russia engaging in espionage, but ignore people like Ghislaine Maxwell, Leslie Wexner, and Epstein running Mossad operations on US soil.
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
It's amazing there is no real digging from the mainstream media, and outrage about Mossad running operations on US soil.

They constantly talk about China and Russia engaging in espionage, but ignore people like Ghislaine Maxwell, Leslie Wexner, and Epstein running Mossad operations on US soil.
Well, when you hold the spotlight you don’t shine it on yourself.
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Originally Posted By StopitFocker⏩
Thing is, all of this so called occultism and magic and satanism and the dark and the light is just made up BS. None of it exists. Just fantasy.

But people use those images and cult like practices as a front and a way to control others. It gives what they are doing, in this case grooming young girls and boys for their own pleasure and for blackmail purposes, more...I can't say validity. What is the word? More ummmmpppph. More power. More hype. More show bizz.
The real enemy is human nature; religious folks want to believe it's Satan or demons or what have you, but the problem with that approach is, you're not holding people accountable for their behavior and by bringing religion into it, you automatically lose credibility.

We have seen the enemy, and he is us.
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And on this note clear out your inbox Opie. Tried to send you a message earlier but it’s full.

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Can I get a PM too man? Been researching these topics nearly 10 years and I'm at a similar point to OP
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Originally Posted By Suit⏩
Your getting very close OP. I can assist you, but only via PM.
Good I grab a copy/paste of that PM brah? I'm in a similar position to the OP
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Originally Posted By Boxman⏩
The real enemy is human nature; religious folks want to believe it's Satan or demons or what have you, but the problem with that approach is, you're not holding people accountable for their behavior and by bringing religion into it, you automatically lose credibility.

We have seen the enemy, and he is us.
Forget about religion and pagan ceremonies. What do people at the top of the pyramid get up to? The ones who are really in power, not the bureaucrats they put in front of us to distract us. These people face no repercussions for anything they do. And the really fuked up thing is its a system designed such that we are all forced to participate in their depravity.

Seriously, how is this news to anyone? What is any human being capable of when there are literally no consequences?

And not to beat a dead horse but again I have to ask, what use are people who dont even think morality is a legitimate concept in addressing this problem? Its like getting upset about the symptoms while fueling the disease
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
Fair enough.

The thing is though... They do. And it influences their behaviour.
I'd be interested in learning more about it. So do these guys work with spirits to become billionaires or how does it all work?
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Originally Posted By Boxman⏩
The real enemy is human nature; religious folks want to believe it's Satan or demons or what have you, but the problem with that approach is, you're not holding people accountable for their behavior and by bringing religion into it, you automatically lose credibility.
That is an oversimplification.

Not everyone reduces cause to a single cause, some people believe in multiple.

Every religious person I know believes that evil forces influence us to do evil things, but they also believe that we have self responsibility, and have been given the power and tools to overcome them.

Religious people can also believe that upbringing/pre adult experiences, and social environment can affect our behavior, personality and choices (like sociology and psychology research shows).

Religious people can also believe that false beliefs can influence us towards evil (just like CBT concludes, that beliefs can profoundly affect our perception and behaviour). They can believe in genetic influence too (aka psychopathy), and physiological causes.

Religious people are capable of believing in multiple causes for human behaviour.
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Originally Posted By Hnbn1⏩
Does their magic work?
I have experienced Ceremonial Magic work.

Best protection is to be in a good relationship with God (the sources of Goodness) - working on feeling good (healing trauma, good health, positive thinking habits, etc), and helping others to feel good (Benevolence).
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