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Thread: Girl messages famous actor, has sex with him, now is accusing him of sexual assault

post 1608262441 06-20-2020, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted By Rainwillow⏩
Yes it was insensitive of him to not check up on her when she was crying. But she was a VIRGIN and many girls cry when they lose their virginity, from the pain of it. He didn't check on her and that makes him a jerk, not rapist because she never told him to stop
Actually many girls pop thst hymen before having sex. Especially if they're into athletics.
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So what would the response be if a 17 year old male hooked up with a 20 year old female?
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Actually many girls pop thst hymen before having sex. Especially if they're into athletics.
Sure but in many cases girls do cry when they lose their virginity because they have never been penetrated before
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
Did you actually read what she wrote OP?

Did you skip over the part when she said that she was crying?

Regardless if she contacted him,ifwhat she wrote is true, then it clearly is Rape. (note: I underlined and bolded the word; if.)
So

- she gave consent
- she never withdrew said consent

and he still managed to retroactively rape her?





Ok.
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Sloot clout chasing and 17 is pretty much adult age
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Originally Posted By Rainwillow⏩
Yes it was insensitive of him to not check up on her when she was crying. But she was a VIRGIN and many girls cry when they lose their virginity, from the pain of it. He didn't check on her and that makes him a jerk, not rapist because she never told him to stop
Crying is a sign of pain, and so to stop, my dude.

If you are ever banging a chick and she starts crying... Stop.

If she asks you to continue afteward go ahead... But don't just say "We need to break you in" and continue as she cries in pain.

(Again, I'm not saying that the story is true, I am saying that if a woman starts crying... You don't continue phucking her, without asking her if she wants to continue... Virgin or not.)
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post 1608265151 06-20-2020, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
So

- she gave consent
- she never withdrew said consent

and he still managed to retroactively rape her?





Ok.
This misc is phucked in the head.

It shouldn't surprise me... I remember when miscers were mocking Christy Mack for being almost killed and raped by War Machine. 'She's a pornstar, who gives a phuck about her' was the sentiment.

The woman hate is real.
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
Crying is a sign to stop, my dude.

If you are ever banging a chick and she starts crying, stop.
He should have stopped, but she was a virgin and he could've misunderstood that she's crying because it's her first time. That does not make him a rapist. It makes him a douche, that's all he's guilty of.
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Why does his name sound like a harry potter character.
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
Crying is a sign of pain, and so to stop, my dude.

If you are ever banging a chick and she starts crying... Stop.

If she asks you to continue afteward go ahead... But don't just say "We need to break you in" and continue as she cries in pain.

(Again, I'm not saying that the story is true, I am saying that if a woman starts crying... You don't continue phucking her, without asking her if she wants to continue... Virgin or not.)
Stfu *******

Being inconsiderate is not rape. She consented, they were having sex, and 'according to her', she started to cry during. Explain to me how he forced himself upon her please. Retroactive rape is bullchit and I pegged you as someone smarter than this.
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Originally Posted By Rainwillow⏩
He should have stopped, but she was a virgin and he could've misunderstood that she's crying because it's her first time. That does not make him a rapist. It makes him a douche, that's all he's guilty of.
9/10 times bishes whimper in pain when i'm balls deep in them doggy style

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Originally Posted By Techriding101⏩
9/10 times bishes whimper in pain when i'm balls deep in them doggy style

you do realize sex is stuffing your hard cock into a soft tight hole
wow you rapist!!!!!
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Originally Posted By Rainwillow⏩
He should have stopped, but she was a virgin and he could've misunderstood that she's crying because it's her first time. That does not make him a rapist. It makes him a douche, that's all he's guilty of.
Your argument seems to be that he lacked the emotionally intelligence to understand that he needed to check on her well-being and if she wanted to continue, but that isn't the same as him being aware that she didn't want to continue.

Is that an accurate summary?

If that is accurate, the other side of the story, some people (and this is a well known phenomenon in academic psychology) disassociate and are unable to verbalize protest, when they are terrified, under intense psychological stress.

Crying is a non verbal sign of distress and pain... The guy is old enough, and intelligent enough, that it his responsibility to check if she is coherent to verbalize consent or not. She already gave him a clear non-verbal cue that she didn't want to continue (crying) he allegedly ignored that.


Crying is universally understood as a sign of pain (even when people are crying 'happy tears', people tend to check if someone is OK). I would argue in court that it's a universally recognized sign, that the man ignored.
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post 1608265821 06-20-2020, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted By Techriding101⏩
9/10 times bishes whimper in pain when i'm balls deep in them doggy style

you do realize sex is stuffing your hard cock into a soft tight hole
Do they break down crying?

If so, do you continue without checking if they want to continue?
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
Your argument seems to be that he lacked the emotionally intelligence to understand that he needed to check on her well-being and if she wanted to continue, but that isn't the same as him being aware that she didn't want to continue.

Is that an accurate summary?

If that is accurate, the other side of the story, some people (and this is a well known phenomenon in academic psychology) disassociate and are unable to verbalize protest, when they are terrified, under intense psychological stress.

Crying is a non verbal sign of distress and pain... The guy is old enough, and intelligent enough, that it his responsibility to check if she is coherent to verbalize consent or not. She already gave him a clear non-verbal cue that she didn't want to continue (crying) he allegedly ignored that.


Crying is universally understood as a sign of pain (even when people are crying 'happy tears', people tend to check if someone is OK). I would argue in court that it's a universally recognized sign, that the man ignored.
Yes he was being inconsiderate and stupid. Now what, he's a rapist and p.edo? He was young himself when this happened and could've easily misunderstood her
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
This misc is phucked in the head.

It shouldn't surprise me... I remember when miscers were mocking Christy Mack for being almost killed and raped by War Machine. 'She's a pornstar, who gives a phuck about her' was the sentiment.

The woman hate is real.
Unless you can quote my post where I condone what happened to Christy Mack - which you can't, because I don't -, you can fck off.

But how nice of you to discredit her experience of being raped and beaten within an inch of her life by comparing it to a chick's, who was in a lot of pain while consentually losing her virginity to her crush she messaged.

Totally comparable, really.

You see that's the problem with clout-chasing retards and their herd of window-lickers. You only make it harder for actual victims to get their stories out and to get help and assistance.

Regret is not rape. End of story.
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Muzzlrpress

Please calm down, and read the post I just wrote to a previous poster.


Things are not as simple as "If she doesn't say the word "no", or "stop" then it's not rape. Human psychology is more complicated than that. The fear/stress response is more complicated than that.

If a person starts due to something physically affecting them, that is a universally recognized social signal of distress, and needs attention.

If you ignore a woman who starts crying whilst having sex, then you have a serious problem with emotional intelligence.

To boys or young men lurking...


IF A WOMAN STARTS CRYING DURING SEX... PHUCKIN STOP!

STOP WHAT YOU ARE DOING, CHECK IF SHE IS OK.
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
Unless you can quote my post where I condone what happened to Christy Mack - which you can't, because I don't -, you can fck off.

But how nice of you to discredit her experience of being raped and beaten within an inch of her life by comparing it to a chick's, who was in a lot of pain while consentually losing her virginity to her crush she messaged.

Totally comparable, really.
I never compared it, and I didn't accuse you of anything.

You're not reading my posts properly.
You see that's the problem with clout-chasing retards and their herd of window-lickers. You only make it harder for actual victims to get their stories out and to get help and assistance.
Clout chasing? I'm on the misc. I'm in the minority here. I'm sure most men here agree with you guys.

Like I said... Even in the case of Christy Mack, people had no sympathy for her. So, I'm no expecting most men here to empathize with the girl, only the man.

The misc dislikes women... I hope you won't deny that.
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Originally Posted By Rainwillow⏩
Yes he was being inconsiderate and stupid. Now what, he's a rapist and p.edo?
I never said he was a ****.
He was young himself when this happened and could've easily misunderstood her
He was old enough to know what tears mean.
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
I never said he was a ****.



He was old enough to know what tears mean.
But you are calling him a rapist based on her crying. A lot of girls cry from feeling overwhelmed or from pleasure during sex, should he have stopped and asked if she wants to continue? Yes. But he just assumed it because she didn't ask him to stop. He is an idiot for assuming but he is not a rapist, don't invalidate actual victims of rape by saying this is rape.
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
I never compared it, and I didn't accuse you of anything.

You're not reading my posts properly.



Clout chasing? I'm on the misc. I'm in the minority here. I'm sure most men here agree with you guys.

Like I said... Even in the case of Christy Mack, people had no sympathy for her. So, I'm no expecting most men here to empathize with the girl, only the man.

The misc dislikes women... I hope you won't deny that.
It's not just men but even women in this thread have said it is ridiculous that he is being called a rapist.
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
Clout chasing? I'm on the misc. I'm in the minority here. I'm sure most men here agree with you guys.

Like I said... Even in the case of Christy Mack, people had no sympathy for her. So, I'm no expecting most men here to empathize with the girl, only the man.

The misc dislikes women... I hope you won't deny that.
...she's being the clout chaser, you're the one reeeing how although it was consentual - and legal -, it was still rape.


I'll give you that there's been a massive influx of xypill incel retards and larpers who spew tons of hate towards women but I wouldn't go as far as saying that the misc dislikes women. Apart from the "sloots gonna sloot" locker room talk the general consensus among the sane posters is still that guys should strive for lasting meaningful relationships and not to fuk it up. People regularly get called out and torn down for being *******s towards gfs/other women, so there's that as well.
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I'm going to go out on a limb for BetaAsPhuck here because I am torn between two things. (1) I am somewhat bothered by the fact that she has tried several times to point out the age difference when it really was not so large as she's like to make it seem and (2) if somebody's crying while you fuk em' you should probably stop and check on them.

On the topic of (1) the claims she made really make me feel skeeved because it really feels like she is trying to drive home this statutory rape thing. But truth be told, he was only two or three years older (I think). He wasn't in his twenties, and many relationships are 2-4 year age differences. I can't look at that maliciously, but it bothers me that the world is painting it as such because of the context.

On the topic of (2) however, I do have my own personal experience with that. First ex, straight up in clear pain. More pain than I'd anticipated she would be in during the first time. It was clear,and it was very hard to keep going. Sex is supposed to be enjoyable for both parties, and it's exciting to know you're getting your partner off too. Of course I stopped, and asked what I could do to make her more comfortable.

The thought of just "plowing" through that is a little weird to me and I don't understand why the misc wouldn't see that if they really thought about it. That's the real messed up part of this whole situation.

Did he "rape" her in the classical sense of the word? I don't think I would call it that.

But did he do something pretty damn fukked up? Yeah, absolutely, that's definitely a bad experience during sex.
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Originally Posted By TypeNirvash⏩
I'm going to go out on a limb for BetaAsPhuck here because I am torn between two things. (1) I am somewhat bothered by the fact that she has tried several times to point out the age difference when it really was not so large as she's like to make it seem and (2) if somebody's crying while you fuk em' you should probably stop and check on them.

On the topic of (1) the claims she made really make me feel skeeved because it really feels like she is trying to drive home this statutory rape thing. But truth be told, he was only two or three years older (I think). He wasn't in his twenties, and many relationships are 2-4 year age differences. I can't look at that maliciously, but it bothers me that the world is painting it as such because of the context.

On the topic of (2) however, I do have my own personal experience with that. First ex, straight up in clear pain. More pain than I'd anticipated she would be in during the first time. It was clear,and it was very hard to keep going. Sex is supposed to be enjoyable for both parties, and it's exciting to know you're getting your partner off too. Of course I stopped, and asked what I could do to make her more comfortable.

The thought of just "plowing" through that is a little weird to me and I don't understand why the misc wouldn't see that if they really thought about it. That's the real messed up part of this whole situation.

Did he "rape" her in the classical sense of the word? I don't think I would call it that.

But did he do something pretty damn fukked up? Yeah, absolutely, that's definitely a bad experience during sex.
This is true. It was a bad experience, and I don't doubt that it traumatized her, but calling him a rapist is too far
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
So

- she gave consent
- she never withdrew said consent

and he still managed to retroactively rape her?





Ok.
Nowadays you can actually rape a woman in retrospective. It doesnt matter if the bish gave consent back then if she feels like she was raped now, you are basically fukked. Clown world it is.
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It’s difficult to gauge the severity of his continuing when she was in pain without really knowing all the details. She said she was sobbing but that could range from being borderline not noticeable to the neighbours hearing it.

She’s clearly trying to amplify the circumstances by blablablaing about her being “so young” at 17 (while randomly messaging guys and telling them to come phuck her) and stating that he was “in his 20s”, which gives your mind an entire decade to contemplate. The guy was fukking like 3 years older than her.

And with the way she was apparently talking at that age, he was probably in the right to comment about breaking her in. You don’t tell random guys to come phuck you and not expect to be treated like a phuck toy.


She regrets it, fine, that doesn’t make it criminal. And fukking lmao @ people calling him a ****phile. There are literally millions of idiots in the wold, we shouldn’t even be giving attention to their drivel
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Originally Posted By GlennQuagmire⏩
Nowadays you can actually rape a woman in retrospective. It doesnt matter if the bish gave consent back then if she feels like she was raped now, you are basically fukked. Clown world it is.
It's absolutely crazy the world we live in these days. 17 yr old saying she is a kid compared to a 20 year old and giving consent to sex and then calling it rape? SMH. My great grandparents were ten years apart in age and died loving each other. None of this crap.
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Originally Posted By goldenerafan⏩
It's absolutely crazy the world we live in these days. 17 yr old saying she is a kid compared to a 20 year old and giving consent to sex and then calling it rape? SMH. My great grandparents were ten years apart in age and died loving each other. None of this crap.
BTW I bet she doesnt truly believe she was raped. She is just mad because "her idol" just smash and dash her and this dumb bish actually though that a Chad Rich Celebrity would date an even marry his cringy fan lol

This bishes are just milking the #metoo movement
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i'm just here for the lulz, dont take my miscing too srs
post 1608270911 06-20-2020, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted By TypeNirvash⏩
I'm going to go out on a limb for BetaAsPhuck here because I am torn between two things. (1) I am somewhat bothered by the fact that she has tried several times to point out the age difference when it really was not so large as she's like to make it seem and (2) if somebody's crying while you fuk em' you should probably stop and check on them.
He was an inconsiderate douche and if she wrote that he was an inconsiderate douche who didn't give two chits about her when he took her virginity, she would be completely right.


But - for one reason or another - she didn't write that.
post 1608270961 06-20-2020, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted By Destor⏩
It’s difficult to gauge the severity of his continuing when she was in pain without really knowing all the details.She said she was sobbing but that could range from being borderline not noticeable to the neighbours hearing it.

She’s clearly trying to amplify the circumstances by blablablaing about her being “so young” at 17 (while randomly messaging guys and telling them to come phuck her) and stating that he was “in his 20s”, which gives your mind an entire decade to contemplate. The guy was fukking like 3 years older than her.

And with the way she was apparently talking at that age, he was probably in the right to comment about breaking her in. You don’t tell random guys to come phuck you and not expect to be treated like a phuck toy.


She regrets it, fine, that doesn’t make it criminal. And fukking lmao @ people calling him a ****phile. There are literally millions of idiots in the wold, we shouldn’t even be giving attention to their drivel
This is where I am. We don't even know if she's telling the truth about sobbing during sex. We don't know if she's telling the truth about any of it. It would be interesting to see the messages between them afterwards.

Why is she just putting this on social media? Why didn't she go to the cops and proceed in a legit way? It's all very fishy IMO and sounds like she's just pissed he pumped and dumped her.

Of course if she was really crying during, he should have stopped and asked her how to make it more comfortable or if she wanted to stop. All I can go off of is experience and I know that when I was having sex with my high school boyfriend at 17 if something hurt bad enough to cause me to cry and sob I would have done more than just lay there crying and would have verbalized and used body language to make sure he knew. It sounds like she never tried to physically stop it or even asked him to stop. I wouldn't consider him not stopping with no verbal or physical (besides some tears) queues to be rape. Very douchey and selfish? Yes. Rape? No.
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