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post 1612252961 08-01-2020, 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted By aranadiscoteca
I'll play devils advocate here, it does depend where Prince Andrew "allegedly" had sex with the 17 yo on occassion in London, age of consent is 16 here but that's not the issue at all. She was forced and trafficked.
It is funny how the AOC in most places worldwide is 16 and people don't even realize it.

And I have to say, after I saw the documentary I was horrified for some of the girls. But then if they came back over and over again (and stated that they enjoyed the money and the attention) my sympathy went out the window. If you get offered a trip with a bunch of older men on a private plane to an island - after you have already had sex with one of them - you know exactly what you're likely to be expected to do if you agree.

Some of them I had a hard time believing they were forced into anything. Maybe they didn't like it, but they still took the free trips, money and baller lifestyle happily. The one girl even bragged she was at the Monaco Grand Prix and it was amazing, but whoops, the guy who paid for everything expected sex even though I'd already slept with him so he's evil.
post 1612253351 08-01-2020, 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted By WoofieNugget
It is funny how the AOC in most places worldwide is 16 and people don't even realize it.

And I have to say, after I saw the documentary I was horrified for some of the girls. But then if they came back over and over again (and stated that they enjoyed the money and the attention) my sympathy went out the window. If you get offered a trip with a bunch of older men on a private plane to an island - after you have already had sex with one of them - you know exactly what you're likely to be expected to do if you agree.

Some of them I had a hard time believing they were forced into anything. Maybe they didn't like it, but they still took the free trips, money and baller lifestyle happily. The one girl even bragged she was at the Monaco Grand Prix and it was amazing, but whoops, the guy who paid for everything expected sex even though I'd already slept with him so he's evil.
Still no mention of this on my local news.

HEAVY racial coverage, again.

White man=bad everyone else =opressed
post 1612253391 08-01-2020, 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002
I'm in my 30's, teenagers are children to me, and certainly Epstein and Maxwell preying on kids leaving school is pretty twisted. I hope they rot.

And yes, the law is where all discussion ends- except for laws we dont like (drugs, immigration etc)
because laws should be based on morality, not morality based on the laws of a society...
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post 1612254531 08-01-2020, 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted By GuineaDago585
One confirmation of Bill at the island:



Apparently the screwed up the redaction formatting. If you copy and paste the text from PDF to Notepad you can read the unredacted text. Srs lmao. Dis gon be gud.
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post 1612254771 08-01-2020, 02:41 AM
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/storage...tem-story/amp/


Interesting read
post 1612255821 08-01-2020, 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted By noobrero
cliffs?
post 1612256221 08-01-2020, 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted By CanuckGame
Still no mention of this on my local news.

HEAVY racial coverage, again.

White man=bad everyone else =opressed
But this is actually an example of white man legit being bad not some made up wishy washy liberal white guilt power trip and they're ignoring it. Sad!
post 1612256621 08-01-2020, 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted By EagleOfWar
1.You said 2008 originally and that’s why I asked.

2. I’m no conservative

3. What’s done in war have to do with an underage sex island?
Regarding 3, I was replying to someone saying that Trump is a 'good guy'.

Regarding specifically to this case... If Trump wants to bring down the Epstein-Maxwell-Wexner ring, why has he brought in someone who has been a part of covering up a VIP **** ring in the past? William Barr.

William Barr was part of the Franklin Cover up. If you read/watch about how the victims were treated, you will see how disgusting it was.

Expert on the Franklin Cover Up talks about what happened... Including William Barr's involvement...


The fact that some of you are doing everything to put Trump on blast for basically ANYTHING else other than this topic shows a lot. Like I stated before idc who’s involved. We need the truth.
I clearly mentioned the topic in my initial post. The guy I was replying to focused on the war part, so I just replied to that.

He never mentioned anything about Alexander Acosta and Alan Dershowitz, because there is no denying that Trump appointed those 2 to his staff, despite being aware of their involvement with Epstein (it was public knowledge, and of course a president does background checks).
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post 1612256661 08-01-2020, 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted By SWDeath
The majority of obama's drone victims were civilians and guess what... No one on the left even gave a chit about them.

So whats the difference now?
Anyone who doesn't care about civilian deaths has a callous heart.

I don't care what their political affiliation is, even if it's identical to mine. However, I have found more anti-war people on the left vs the right, to be blunt. Obama and Hillary supporters are not anti-war though.

For the record, IRL I always, always call people out when they say how great Hillary 'could have been' and how great Obama was. I always point out what they both did to Libya.
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post 1612257071 08-01-2020, 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted By KingSWRV
so they aren't that bad?

what's the juice? is there a scoop?

if you look at some of these models they look like such mature young women..




These are pretty much the "tier" of girls (maybe slightly lower) that are doing those types of prostitution arrangements. Hardly that young to think its some sick thing.

its crazy to think all this fascination with these "elites" and their paid women are dealing with girls older than some of the ones in this modeling clip.

When in like Cambodia and stuff like that they are selling actual young girls and nobody bats an eye.

But them flying in some young women who are fully mature is such a point of fascination. its almost like they are obsessed because they are jealous lol. Like its an issue but there are much worse things out in the world than Epstein and his high class escorts who were willing participants and about the age of these young WOMEN in their prime.

Its just like... theres so many worse things out there for real in 3rd world nations.
If you look into the case (and victims testimoneies), he wasn't buying girls who were already in prostitution he was literally outright sexually assaulting some, bringing others into prostitution, and trafficking others. Maria Farmer and her sister were literally trafficked, that's why she went to the FBI in 1996.

You're framing it completely wrong.

Ghislaine used to go to schools, befriend girls (specifically targeting poor girls), inviting them to her place, and convincing them to 'give Epstein a massage'. They would even get some girls to recruit other girls into their ring.

The youngest victims were 13 years old.

(A common theme I've seen from the Epstein-Maxwell-Wexner ring, UK Muslim Grooming gangs, The Franklin Cover Up, Kincora Boys Home, Edward Heath, and Jimmy Saville, is that they specifically target poor kids from weak family units and kids from care homes. What was heart breaking was one victim saying - paraphrasing "I was a throwaway kid. Noone care about me." )


Also, I would advise you to research into Epstein and Maxwell's Mossad connections. Which is something the MSM doesn't like to touch on. What seems clear, is that Mossad were using them to run blackmail operations on rich and powerful US citizens.
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post 1612257401 08-01-2020, 04:37 AM
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They should probably not label every woman involved in this as a "survivor". Some were genuine victims and others were pretty much whores. Unfair to the true victims to pool them all together.
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Any cliffs so far? Besides the redacted files provided ITT and all the endless back and forth Trump discussions, taking away from the real issue.
Originally Posted By MrDevereaux
They should probably not label every woman involved in this as a "survivor". Some were genuine victims and others were pretty much whores. Unfair to the true victims to pool them all together.
It's novel language when referring to someone that was used in some kind of an unwitting sexual way. "Victim" had a negative connotation almost as though there was nothing you can do about that label forever. I guess "survivor" has a more positive spin to it.
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post 1612257731 08-01-2020, 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted By lightsarefallin
Any cliffs so far? Besides the redacted files provided ITT and all the endless back and forth Trump discussions, taking away from the real issue.
The latest news out seems like they want to heap the blame on epstein & maxwell by framing the situation like, the victims were forced to have sex with prince Andrew, Bill clinton, as a means to blackmail them.

So the big names that are accused are Probably gearing up for a "we were coerced" defense
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Originally Posted By lightsarefallin
Any cliffs so far? Besides the redacted files provided ITT and all the endless back and forth Trump discussions, taking away from the real issue.



It's novel language when referring to someone that was used in some kind of an unwitting sexual way. "Victim" had a negative connotation almost as though there was nothing you can do about that label forever. I guess "survivor" has a more positive spin to it.
Yeah personally I hate it. Seems more appropriate when describing the one or two victims of a serial killer that managed to escape.
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Originally Posted By GuineaDago585
One confirmation of Bill at the island:



Apparently the screwed up the redaction formatting. If you copy and paste the text from PDF to Notepad you can read the unredacted text. Srs lmao. Dis gon be gud.
I dont understand how this is proof though? if under questioning someone said 2+2 = 5 does that make it true?
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Originally Posted By jesusxchrist
Why did this thread died?
It's doing a future Ghislaine Maxwell impression
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Originally Posted By aevn
I dont understand how this is proof though? if under questioning someone said 2+2 = 5 does that make it true?
When you have multiple accounts of said things happening, it can't be ignored my dude.

All these Clinton allegations aren't from just one person...

Much in the same way someone can be sentenced to life for murder with only circumstantial evidence, same can be done here for these fuking p3dos.

Edit: But, yeah, that's why the names were supposed to be redacted. Obviously for the time being, these interviews are just someone saying something. Someone's name shouldn't be out there for that for the time being.
....even though we all know it's true and happened...
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