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post 1613577161 08-14-2020, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted By Unstumpable⏩
That's only like one scoop of preworkout...guarantee that 3-400 is probably the average for a caffeine drinker. Plenty of people drinking two or three times that a day.


ADHD meds are the worst, but caffeine is definitely not good either. But I still take preworkout for every workout...fml
Yup. The best part is all the women at my work would berate me for drinking a white monster. I used to drink 2-3 a day for a while. They said that is way too much caffeine and is horrible for you. It's 140mg per can.

They would come in with large cups of dunkin coffee. That's 300mg of caffeine at once, for much smaller and petite women.

People are absolutely blinded by coffee and caffeine intake. It's hysterical.
post 1613577261 08-14-2020, 08:35 PM
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I wish OP

I've been going hard every day for decades but still stuck with all these lame feelings
post 1613577511 08-14-2020, 08:38 PM
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If you are on a beta blocker for hypertension, then caffeine wont effect you nearly as much because Beta Blockers block the production of adrenaline at low levels of stimulation. 1 caffeine molecule results in the stimulation of 10,000 other stimulant molecules (cyclic amp, Active PKA, Phosphorylase B Kinase, Glycogen phosphorylase A, glucose 1-phosphate etc)


If anyone needs to quit caffeine and/or purge their system of it also to calm down, rest, sleep etc, take rutaecarpine. It binds to the caffeine and you urinate it out
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post 1613577671 08-14-2020, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted By MuscleXtreme⏩
What type of stims are we talking? Caffeine? ********?
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post 1613577721 08-14-2020, 08:40 PM
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Why does it have this effect though? I've been taking them for years and I need it just to wake up now.
post 1613577871 08-14-2020, 08:42 PM
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Stim tolerance is one hell of a feeling. I was using Mr Hyde pwo (test version, loved it) for a while and I felt like a God while working out in it. it has almost 400mg of caffeine in it, so after the jug was empty, I switched to a 200mg pwo. I felt very moody and drained without that extra caffeine intake. I'm going to try to get a stim free pwo and hope to kick the stims altogether.
post 1613577951 08-14-2020, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted By Harry815⏩
Why does it have this effect though? I've been taking them for years and I need it just to wake up now.
Iv'e been wondering this too. I drank caffeine when i was younger and it had no effects. Started drinking it in 2016 and became an addict.

I even quit caffeine in 2015 but i can't now.
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post 1613578081 08-14-2020, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted By Unstumpable⏩
That's only like one scoop of preworkout...guarantee that 3-400 is probably the average for a caffeine drinker. Plenty of people drinking two or three times that a day.


ADHD meds are the worst, but caffeine is definitely not good either. But I still take preworkout for every workout...fml
yeah exactly 3-400 is too much for most people is what im getting at... for anyone thats around 6ft 190-200lbs thats honestly already pushing the upper limits

the dudes in here bitching about caffeine are taking legit 2x-4x more than they should be and are wondering why they feel like trash

dont even get me started on the people who were born stim sensitive but take 200+ mg preworkouts..just doesnt make sense
post 1613578291 08-14-2020, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted By bluedream2⏩
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post 1613578981 08-14-2020, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted By eod8989⏩
Iv'e been wondering this too. I drank caffeine when i was younger and it had no effects. Started drinking it in 2016 and became an addict.

I even quit caffeine in 2015 but i can't now.
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post 1613579161 08-14-2020, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted By FrankGrimes29⏩
Stop drinking it for 2 weeks then. See what happens.

I didn't have any issues with caffeine besides peeing a lot from ages 20 (when I started) until I was 26/27.

Green tea is cope. That's 35-50mg of caffeine. That does almost nothing, and is unnecessary at that point. No caffeine is where it is at. I feel normal again. Zero crashes, no highs, no issue at all with anything. I think much more clearly and deliberately. I am much calmer, yet feel stronger and more grounded.
I drink green tea to feel healthy. I don’t drink it for the caffeine.

Do you drink anything apart from water?
Originally Posted By 3basic5me⏩
i used to be the same. i thought people complaining about caffeine were making stuff up. but it started to affect me about 2 years ago.
Okay sure. But why would I stop if I’m not currently experiencing any downsides? If I do start feeling side effects all of a sudden, sure I’ll ween myself off....but if I’m good right now, why change things?

Coffee makes my fasted workouts feel great. I don’t take preworkout - that stuff’s poison.
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post 1613579221 08-14-2020, 09:00 PM
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i'm not saying you should stop at all. just saying what happened to me, that's all.
post 1613579711 08-14-2020, 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted By adang92⏩
yeah exactly 3-400 is too much for most people is what im getting at... for anyone thats around 6ft 190-200lbs thats honestly already pushing the upper limits

the dudes in here bitching about caffeine are taking legit 2x-4x more than they should be and are wondering why they feel like trash

dont even get me started on the people who were born stim sensitive but take 200+ mg preworkouts..just doesnt make sense
That's completely false. The general consensus is that most people can tolerate 400mg per day per the dietary guidelines with little to no symptoms. When you're 6'2 225lbs and genetically have little to no caffeine sensitivity (Swedish....look it up), 400mg is nothing.

Most people are consuming 200-400mg a day, at least. BUT, you have to apply that in totality. Most people consume it every day, for years. That consistency is what is the issue. The long term usage becomes an addiction, which becomes a greater hindrance to you.
post 1613579941 08-14-2020, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted By Ironface⏩
I drink green tea to feel healthy. I don’t drink it for the caffeine.

Do you drink anything apart from water?

Okay sure. But why would I stop if I’m not currently experiencing any downsides? If I do start feeling side effects all of a sudden, sure I’ll ween myself off....but if I’m good right now, why change things?

Coffee makes my fasted workouts feel great. I don’t take preworkout - that stuff’s poison.
I drink water and I also have Kaged Muscle Hydra Charge I put in my water. That's it. I also utilize fruit. Once you get over the addiction of caffeine or even sugary drinks, water tastes amazing. The hydracharge powder adds minerals and vitamins as well. Plus it tastes amazing.

Preworkout and coffee are poison for the same reason. Caffeine.
post 1613580301 08-14-2020, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted By FrankGrimes29⏩
That's completely false. The general consensus is that most people can tolerate 400mg per day per the dietary guidelines with little to no symptoms. When you're 6'2 225lbs and genetically have little to no caffeine sensitivity (Swedish....look it up), 400mg is nothing.

Most people are consuming 200-400mg a day, at least. BUT, you have to apply that in totality. Most people consume it every day, for years. That consistency is what is the issue. The long term usage becomes an addiction, which becomes a greater hindrance to you.
Yes I get it and i've seen the studies saying that 400mg is """"safe"""" but i'm still super skeptical of MOST peoples caffeine tolerance....I have no evidence to back this up but all i'm trying to get at is the people who feel like trash drinking caffeine were already taking too much to begin with, and as you said consistently.

I never go over 150 mg a day, once I do I start feeling like trash but alot of people are forcing their bodies to NEED 3-400mg a day when they never needed that in the first place..they were always probably 100-200mg kind of people..if you get what im trying to say.

at the end of the day the key is moderation but society has made it too easy to overdose on caffeine (pwo, coca cola, energy drinks, etc.)
post 1613580341 08-14-2020, 09:16 PM
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Wrong I take ******** and caffeine everyday, its all about the dose.
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post 1613580481 08-14-2020, 09:18 PM
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Idk brahs i have to keep drinking until i reach that certain buzz-disorientated-hyper feeling and then i'm good for an hour or two and then the withdrawals kick back in. I am withdrawing most of the day.
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I just quit for 5 days, still felt like chit with very little improvements so I took about 100mg today lol... didn't feel much hype even tho 5 days off is a lot considering I was always on it. Caffeine kinda makes my brain fog worse but wakes me up, I decided to look elsewhere healthwise as to why I'm tired all the time... maybe I got diabeetus or something

Also suspecting I might not get enough bloodflow to the brain
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Originally Posted By DASBUNKER⏩
I just quit for 5 days, still felt like chit with very little improvements so I took about 100mg today lol... didn't feel much hype even tho 5 days off is a lot considering I was always on it. Caffeine kinda makes my brain fog worse but wakes me up, I decided to look elsewhere healthwise as to why I'm tired all the time... maybe I got diabeetus or something

Also suspecting I might not get enough bloodflow to the brain
Best to slowly taper it down until you get to zero man.
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Originally Posted By FrankGrimes29⏩
Yea but you can't talk about that too much apparently. I made a thread stating how caffeine is poison, which to some extent it is to our body, and it eventually got taken down.

Watch out though brah. The daily coffeecels will come here soon to tell you off.
What have you noticed since quitting caffeine? Ive been trying to quit coffee for some time now and just cant seem to go without it.
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Agreed, former stim abuser here. Life is much better stim free.
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