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post 1613680061 08-16-2020, 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted By Miscbob⏩
Looks too skinny. Surely this isn't going to a decision, should have kept some weight on for more power.
Being ripped = more power
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Originally Posted By ipunchurgirl⏩
Being ripped = more power
Force = Mass * Acceleration

The bigger you are and the faster you go the more force you produce
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I didn't see the fights, what did I miss?
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post 1613680751 08-16-2020, 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted By superman704⏩
I didn't see the fights, what did I miss?
Oh man! Mark Coleman defeated Dan Severn

It was brutal
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If DC didn't hold on to Stipe(idk if it was dc holding on to stipe so he doesn't move backgrounds or if stipe just wanted to be on his face, but he only had his upper body movement there) when stipe was pounding on him the last seconds I think it was round 2, and Stipe could've went back and put in full power and motion to his strikes, could've he ended the round before the bell?
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Originally Posted By superman704⏩
I didn't see the fights, what did I miss?
DC got his ass kicked but this time he didn't cry.
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I think DC either has some undisclosed nagging injuries or he's just not the athlete he once was and his age is catching up to him... it looked to me like he didn't have the confidence in his gas tank to wrestle after the first round but maybe he was fine and really didn't see any openings for a TD after rd 1, who knows?

He's also had back problems before. As someone who's had ruptured discs before I couldn't imagine shooting a double or single leg with a bad back, especially on a 240 lb elite athlete.

Stipe is an animal though, he took some big strikes and looked very strong in the clinch. I think if he fought Francis again it would go the same way if not worse, but its MMA and Stipe is no spring chicken so age could literally catch up to him at any time, or Francis could catch him. At HW especially, these guys can all KO each other with one shot so if your timing or speed is off even just a bit its a huge disadvantage.

That's what a lot of people don't understand... time catches up to everyone. A fighter can gradually decline over a long period of time or they can have one bad performance or take a big KO or take a bad beating and never be the same again... it happens to everyone eventually.
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Originally Posted By iloveus⏩
Oh man! Mark Coleman defeated Dan Severn

It was brutal
Ugh...no.
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Originally Posted By MinisterOfLust⏩
DC got his ass kicked but this time he didn't cry.
Awesome
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Originally Posted By HulkHagen⏩
I think DC either has some undisclosed nagging injuries or he's just not the athlete he once was and his age is catching up to him... it looked to me like he didn't have the confidence in his gas tank to wrestle after the first round but maybe he was fine and really didn't see any openings for a TD after rd 1, who knows?

He's also had back problems before. As someone who's had ruptured discs before I couldn't imagine shooting a double or single leg with a bad back, especially on a 240 lb elite athlete.

Stipe is an animal though, he took some big strikes and looked very strong in the clinch. I think if he fought Francis again it would go the same way if not worse, but its MMA and Stipe is no spring chicken so age could literally catch up to him at any time, or Francis could catch him. At HW especially, these guys can all KO each other with one shot so if your timing or speed is off even just a bit its a huge disadvantage.

That's what a lot of people don't understand... time catches up to everyone. A fighter can gradually decline over a long period of time or they can have one bad performance or take a big KO or take a bad beating and never be the same again... it happens to everyone eventually.
Brutal if true
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post 1613690671 08-16-2020, 06:31 AM
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I don't think Stipe is going to want to get back in the ring soon. jones and ngannou haven't fought in a while, would love to see them fight for the #1 contender.

But i don't think jones would do it.
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Originally Posted By BobLoblawBrah⏩
O'malley hype train derailed thats so great. He was asking for a lesson. Would have preferred Marlon to maul him for 15mins but.
Nothing derailed his hype will be exactly the same when he returns if not more with some promo, he lost on account of a serious ankle injury, he didn’t really get beaten so to speak, they’ll run that angle.

However it is alarming that it is supposedly the same injury he suffered against Soukmathath a couple years ago, if he has got brittle feet then that will really disarm him in the future.
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Originally Posted By 4Adz4⏩
Nothing derailed his hype will be exactly the same when he returns if not more with some promo, he lost on account of a serious ankle injury, he didn’t really get beaten so to speak, they’ll run that angle.

However it is alarming that it is supposedly the same injury he suffered against Soukmathath a couple years ago, if he has got brittle feet then that will really disarm him in the future.
Lol There were 2 times during the GnP where it looked liked he flatlined and came back

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Originally Posted By adamsz⏩
ehhh I don't agree. They don't have a ton of mainstream super stars like Conor types, but they have a fuk ton of good fighters.

Go watch Bellator or other promotions and you'll realize how far and above UFC is from the other promotions.

Chits a little fuked now with covid and travel restrictions, but most fight cards have some great fights on both prelims and main cards. The headliners aren't always great but if you love fighting there's always some bangers.
All the cards from now to end of years are weak other than their two main headline fights.

Izzy/Costa and Khabib/Justin


Jones is just trolling about fighting heavyweight division.

He is trying to avoid Reyes rematch which will force UFC to have intern title fight Reyes vs Silva.


They cant book Conor if they cant get fans into stadium to cover huge fees.


I think Stipe is fantastic fighter but how can they promote him.


Francis is known as scary ford escort power.


Also now being August there is no way in hell Stipe will fight again this year.
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Originally Posted By KhumatMibra⏩
fking lmao @ Clown Dana White calling Stipe the GOAT MMA heavyweight



Fedor The Last Emperor still holds that title and its not close.
GOAT dont lose to Mitrione and Bigfoot lol or rob Fabio Maldonado
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Cormier pokes Stipe, no big deal. Stipe pokes Cormier, end of the world.
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Originally Posted By nikeoneplatinum⏩
Cormier pokes Stipe, no big deal. Stipe pokes Cormier, end of the world.
it was a big deal lol
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Fedor isn’t the goat tbh

He should’ve went to ufc to fight

The ufc is the measuring stick for greatness in the mma world snd he never made it there iirc

And I say this as a fan who watched pride when it was at its best and have seen all of his fights outside of pride.
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Loved it so much when Bigfoot ktfo Reem one of the goat moments in hw mma history and it was in ufc
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Originally Posted By Harry362⏩
GOAT dont lose to Mitrione and Bigfoot lol or rob Fabio Maldonado
Or to a middle weight hendo lol


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GOAT HW is Cole Konrad
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Anyone who thinks Fedor isn't the GOAT HW is a newb. Go watch pride. Prime Fedor with yesterdays skills would beat prime Stipe today.
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It's tough watching how fast, vicious and tough Fedor was and not believing he would have beat both of those gents yesterday.
Originally Posted By nikeoneplatinum⏩
Cormier pokes Stipe, no big deal. Stipe pokes Cormier, end of the world.
I won't pretend like I wasn't rooting for Cormier, but for me, it was just that I've never seen a finger go straight in to the knuckle like that.
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Originally Posted By Zere0wn⏩
Anyone who thinks Fedor isn't the GOAT HW is a newb. Go watch pride. Prime Fedor with yesterdays skills would beat prime Stipe today.
yeah no. Beating washed up Randleman, freakshow Zulu, some japanese cans, deosnt make you the GOAT

Cormier x2, Overeem, JDS, Werdum, washed up Arlovski, Ngannou, >>>>> fedors resume and its not even close

I was a huge Fedor fan but come on its can't be compared. He would have probably beat Randy if he came to the UFC at the time but Stipe, Ngannou, Reem, JDS all ****ing crush any Fedor
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Originally Posted By wickedman⏩
It's tough watching how fast, vicious and tough Fedor was and not believing he would have beat both of those gents yesterday.
Exactly. he was faster/more explosive than both on the feet. his sambo was so good people struggled wrestling/clinching him. some of the best ground and pound ever, certainly in the HW division.
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Originally Posted By Harry362⏩
yeah no. Beating washed up Randleman, freakshow Zulu, some japanese cans, deosnt make you the GOAT

Cormier x2, Overeem, JDS, Werdum, washed up Arlovski, Ngannou, >>>>> fedors resume and its not even close

I was a huge Fedor fan but come on its can't be compared. He would have probably beat Randy if he came to the UFC at the time but Stipe, Ngannou, Reem, JDS all ****ing crush any Fedor
Go watch some pride. Go to youtube and watch fedors highlights. he's on another level from all of these guys.

ngannou would be the most interesting
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You're talking about fights from after Fedor's prime. which, I think is the best argument for stipe over him, fedor peaked earlier. But when you're fighting 4-5x/year and doing grand prixs and whatnot... Vs once a year. Of course you peak earlier. Lots of mileage.
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Stipe is 37 with 23 fights, 3 losses. Fedor had 23 fights before he was 30 with the only loss being a weird cut doctor stoppage.
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I watched pride when it started

Those shows were Hot during my tape trading days when it was the best way to get mma and pro wrestling tapes from japan.

I’m familiar with fedor and I don’t think he’s the greatest of all time. Very nice guy though.

Fedor fought a few guys who were huge stars New Japan Pro Wrestling such as Yuji Nagata also well known in the states due to wcw.

I was I think one of the first pride fans in the states as it gained popularity through the tape trading scene.

I though Wand, Big Nog, CroCop and Barnett were Great back then. Pride gave me an appreciation for the ground aspect and because it was closely related to pro wrestling, it was easy to get into.

But I liked ufc more I think after shamrock vs Tito 1 which got a lot of attention as ken was coming off a 4 year lay-off Which he spent in WwF.
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