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Originally Posted By wave_length⏩
Strong this. Not sure why i always connect with your posts. Maybe it’s because we are on the same wave length? SeewutididtherOP, what you are experiencing is simply the ego finding a new way to inflate itself. Happens to all of us when we go on a self improvement journey.
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Originally Posted By Masterchieffer⏩
fuk off peasantSounds like a lot of cope. There are lots of people making more money than you, banging a hotter wife than you, and have a brighter future with a family and loving it more than you. You're burned out trying to improve yourself and not settle but fact is you missed the bus and at this point you should be focusing on building up a family and the people around you, not just focusing on making yourself better. No one gives a **** how long you can meditate or whatever skills you've been working on. Life as an adult is about supporting other people.
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
Damn breh deadass before you posted i was thinking you were one of the other posters i connect with. You make my heart melt breh, you nailed it.It's because you have worked on becoming whole and complete within your self, whilst at the same time understanding that we are all one.
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Originally Posted By FA*******⏩
thx for awareing me about tolstoy srsThe biggest issue I see with people who go down the self improvement road, is that they see life as a resume of skills to complete ("read 100 books", "bench 2 plates", etc) and then judge anyone who has less of a resume than them. It's not about bettering themselves, it's about their insecurity needing to find a way to one-up other people. If you remember NVious, he was the absolute worst person about this.
I get about looking down on the plebs, one of my worst character traits is that I shoot holes in everyone I meet. But thank God I never fell into that "everyone else but me is a sheep!" trap. A comforting lie to tell a wounded ego for sure. Everyone's dealing with their own chit, but no one's an empty automaton, and it's sure as chit isn't because they haven't read Tolstoy like an enlightened superior person has. If you start believing they are, then you really just don't know them well enough.
Tl;dr

ETA: an example came to mind when I re-read this post.
I have a brother who's doing a doctorate in machine learning right now. He got a straight 4.0 in STEM undergrad, aced his first two years of grad classes, and now in his third year, he needs to find a topic for his doctoral thesis. And having to find and pursue an open-ended problemscares the ever living chit out of him.He's called me on the phone a couple times panicking "I don't know what to do! I need someone to tell me what to research!" He ended up stressing out over it so bad he got an ulcer.
Dude is a one-track grinder with nary a spark of creativity in him, and he could really use one of those idea men to help him along. Yes, I've been around those liberal arts "creative" types before, and they're generally annoying as phuck. But I wouldn't automatically write them off because they're on a lower-earning path than a machine learning engineer. Once you've been around enough STEM drones, you even learn to value those folks a bit regardless of whether you get along with them.
I get about looking down on the plebs, one of my worst character traits is that I shoot holes in everyone I meet. But thank God I never fell into that "everyone else but me is a sheep!" trap. A comforting lie to tell a wounded ego for sure. Everyone's dealing with their own chit, but no one's an empty automaton, and it's sure as chit isn't because they haven't read Tolstoy like an enlightened superior person has. If you start believing they are, then you really just don't know them well enough.
Tl;dr

ETA: an example came to mind when I re-read this post.
I have a brother who's doing a doctorate in machine learning right now. He got a straight 4.0 in STEM undergrad, aced his first two years of grad classes, and now in his third year, he needs to find a topic for his doctoral thesis. And having to find and pursue an open-ended problemscares the ever living chit out of him.He's called me on the phone a couple times panicking "I don't know what to do! I need someone to tell me what to research!" He ended up stressing out over it so bad he got an ulcer.
Dude is a one-track grinder with nary a spark of creativity in him, and he could really use one of those idea men to help him along. Yes, I've been around those liberal arts "creative" types before, and they're generally annoying as phuck. But I wouldn't automatically write them off because they're on a lower-earning path than a machine learning engineer. Once you've been around enough STEM drones, you even learn to value those folks a bit regardless of whether you get along with them.
and im russian which is even sadder i wasnt aware
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Originally Posted By FA*******⏩


This is what I got from skim reading OPs post.
OP understand that some people aren't interested in self improving and others may already have/are but they're not obnoxious about it.
I hope you're not one of those insufferable self improvement book readers in real life.
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
One quality post at a time mayne.Yeah brah, we are making the misc great again; the resistance is us.
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Originally Posted By Basiliskboy⏩
Hang out with successful people then.To put a long story short I spent a lot of years developing myself reading books about stoicism and the mindset of successful people, mediating for an hour or more a day having out of body higher consciousness experiences, having paradigm shifts in how I view myself and who I am, making art and understanding art, studying philosophy deeply and finding my purpose..
Yet here I am surrounded by people who watch fight compilation videos on YouTube
People who act petty or do things to start conflict for entertainment. People who are discontent and it shows in the way they act… so aimless chasing emotions minute by minute posturing around with such a small perspective on life. People whose only goal in life is the picket fence dream, nice big shiny car and a mate that’s good enough.
I’m surrounded by purposeless basics.
And I’m not saying any of this to sound like I’m so above anyone it’s just that I’m wired different and this game everyone else is playing that they’re trying to invite me into isn’t something I’m willing to partake in.
It’s rare I find someone I instantly connect with but after talking to them for a bit it’s always someone else whose on the same journey someone with a bit more going on between they’re ears. On the opposite end of the spectrum it’s always some basic mofo who feels uncomfortable around me. Some slack jawed gimp chasing any quality ass, living for the weekend, and no real goals other than getting laid and consuming.
I’m kinda venting but I’m to the point I just can’t deal with people who aren’t “on my level”. I really have to change my environment or only hang with those with my shared interests.
I never thought I’d get to the point where I’d write off someone as just an idiot but here I am.
Help?
Yet here I am surrounded by people who watch fight compilation videos on YouTube
People who act petty or do things to start conflict for entertainment. People who are discontent and it shows in the way they act… so aimless chasing emotions minute by minute posturing around with such a small perspective on life. People whose only goal in life is the picket fence dream, nice big shiny car and a mate that’s good enough.
I’m surrounded by purposeless basics.
And I’m not saying any of this to sound like I’m so above anyone it’s just that I’m wired different and this game everyone else is playing that they’re trying to invite me into isn’t something I’m willing to partake in.
It’s rare I find someone I instantly connect with but after talking to them for a bit it’s always someone else whose on the same journey someone with a bit more going on between they’re ears. On the opposite end of the spectrum it’s always some basic mofo who feels uncomfortable around me. Some slack jawed gimp chasing any quality ass, living for the weekend, and no real goals other than getting laid and consuming.
I’m kinda venting but I’m to the point I just can’t deal with people who aren’t “on my level”. I really have to change my environment or only hang with those with my shared interests.
I never thought I’d get to the point where I’d write off someone as just an idiot but here I am.
Help?
It's the same with anything in life.
Become a pro bodybuilder and you won't be able to hang out with fat sacks of chit.
Become rich and you won't be able to hang with broke sacks of chit.
Become smart and you won't be able to hang out with dumb sacks of chit. Etc.
Gotta find people with a similar mindset.
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Originally Posted By coolbones⏩
Strong this.Hang out with successful people then.
It's the same with anything in life.
Become a pro bodybuilder and you won't be able to hang out with fat sacks of chit.
Become rich and you won't be able to hang with broke sacks of chit.
Become smart and you won't be able to hang out with dumb sacks of chit. Etc.
Gotta find people with a similar mindset.
It's the same with anything in life.
Become a pro bodybuilder and you won't be able to hang out with fat sacks of chit.
Become rich and you won't be able to hang with broke sacks of chit.
Become smart and you won't be able to hang out with dumb sacks of chit. Etc.
Gotta find people with a similar mindset.
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
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Originally Posted By TheBroBrah⏩
We‘re brothers in iron, this alone unites us. Funny thing is, writing that post is also the ego inflating itself. I guess when we realize that we‘re all ego regardless is when we can detach from it. But if I‘m honest, I don‘t know.Strong this. Not sure why i always connect with your posts. Maybe it’s because we are on the same wave length? Seewutididther
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Originally Posted By wave_length⏩
Truth. You’re exactly right about the ego thing though. A healthy amount of ego is good. I always lol when i see people make an ego out of getting rid of their ego thinking they are enlightened. The ego is a human survival mechanism, also part of self esteem.We‘re brothers in iron, this alone unites us. Funny thing is, writing that post is also the ego inflating itself. I guess when we realize that we‘re all ego regardless is when we can detach from it. But if I‘m honest, I don‘t know.
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
IseewutyoudidtherI am way more spiritually awakened then the both of you, everybody knows that.
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
On spread.I am way more spiritually awakened then the both of you, everybody knows that.
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Originally Posted By TheBroBrah⏩
Truth.Truth. You’re exactly right about the ego thing though. A healthy amount of ego is good. I always lol when i see people make an ego out of getting rid of their ego thinking they are enlightened. The ego is a human survival mechanism, also part of self esteem.
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
Yeah all those non-spiritual cucks make me cringe. We are so above those disgraceful peasants.I'm not trying to brag, but I like to think of my self as the spiritual leader of this forum.
Spiritual matters have to be processed and approved by me prior to being released for the public.
Spiritual matters have to be processed and approved by me prior to being released for the public.
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I think it depends why you're self improving.
The first thing you should look to do -
1. Self accept. Self acceptance is more important than improvement. You can improve all you want but if you don't accept yourself then it's largely pointless. You'll never be happy until you accept yourself for who you are, you're fully aware of it and at ease with it. No improvement makes up for the lack of self acceptance.
2. Improve, but do it for a reason. E.G. You love art, so work hard to improve your art to enjoy it more and maybe make it into a career if you want. Or you love music, so get better at it, but not simply for the sake of being good, but to make something of it. Educate yourself if needed to do your dream job.
The improvement needs to have a reason behind it other than just improvement itself.
The first thing you should look to do -
1. Self accept. Self acceptance is more important than improvement. You can improve all you want but if you don't accept yourself then it's largely pointless. You'll never be happy until you accept yourself for who you are, you're fully aware of it and at ease with it. No improvement makes up for the lack of self acceptance.
2. Improve, but do it for a reason. E.G. You love art, so work hard to improve your art to enjoy it more and maybe make it into a career if you want. Or you love music, so get better at it, but not simply for the sake of being good, but to make something of it. Educate yourself if needed to do your dream job.
The improvement needs to have a reason behind it other than just improvement itself.
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Originally Posted By FA*******⏩
This is great post.The biggest issue I see with people who go down the self improvement road, is that they see life as a resume of skills to complete ("read 100 books", "bench 2 plates", etc) and then judge anyone who has less of a resume than them. It's not about bettering themselves, it's about their insecurity needing to find a way to one-up other people. If you remember NVious, he was the absolute worst person about this.
I get about looking down on the plebs, one of my worst character traits is that I shoot holes in everyone I meet. But thank God I never fell into that "everyone else but me is a sheep!" trap. A comforting lie to tell a wounded ego for sure. Everyone's dealing with their own chit, but no one's an empty automaton, and it's sure as chit isn't because they haven't read Tolstoy like an enlightened superior person has. If you start believing they are, then you really just don't know them well enough.
Tl;dr

ETA: an example came to mind when I re-read this post.
I have a brother who's doing a doctorate in machine learning right now. He got a straight 4.0 in STEM undergrad, aced his first two years of grad classes, and now in his third year, he needs to find a topic for his doctoral thesis. And having to find and pursue an open-ended problemscares the ever living chit out of him.He's called me on the phone a couple times panicking "I don't know what to do! I need someone to tell me what to research!" He ended up stressing out over it so bad he got an ulcer.
Dude is a one-track grinder with nary a spark of creativity in him, and he could really use one of those idea men to help him along. Yes, I've been around those liberal arts "creative" types before, and they're generally annoying as phuck. But I wouldn't automatically write them off because they're on a lower-earning path than a machine learning engineer. Once you've been around enough STEM drones, you even learn to value those folks a bit regardless of whether you get along with them.
I get about looking down on the plebs, one of my worst character traits is that I shoot holes in everyone I meet. But thank God I never fell into that "everyone else but me is a sheep!" trap. A comforting lie to tell a wounded ego for sure. Everyone's dealing with their own chit, but no one's an empty automaton, and it's sure as chit isn't because they haven't read Tolstoy like an enlightened superior person has. If you start believing they are, then you really just don't know them well enough.
Tl;dr

ETA: an example came to mind when I re-read this post.
I have a brother who's doing a doctorate in machine learning right now. He got a straight 4.0 in STEM undergrad, aced his first two years of grad classes, and now in his third year, he needs to find a topic for his doctoral thesis. And having to find and pursue an open-ended problemscares the ever living chit out of him.He's called me on the phone a couple times panicking "I don't know what to do! I need someone to tell me what to research!" He ended up stressing out over it so bad he got an ulcer.
Dude is a one-track grinder with nary a spark of creativity in him, and he could really use one of those idea men to help him along. Yes, I've been around those liberal arts "creative" types before, and they're generally annoying as phuck. But I wouldn't automatically write them off because they're on a lower-earning path than a machine learning engineer. Once you've been around enough STEM drones, you even learn to value those folks a bit regardless of whether you get along with them.
Virtue is its own reward.
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Others have suggested reading good fiction to develop your empathy, and I agree. Even better than meditation.
OP go read Siddhartha by Hermann Hesse. It's about a miscer that goes no food, no pillow, no fap, becomes a CEO 10k/day and finally realizes that nothing of that matters and that accepting reality is the final form of happiness (semi srs).
There's literally a chapter called "With the ChildLike People" in which he is frustrated with how he cannot relate to normal people after his journey of self-improvement (dead srs). Go check it out and learn.
OP go read Siddhartha by Hermann Hesse. It's about a miscer that goes no food, no pillow, no fap, becomes a CEO 10k/day and finally realizes that nothing of that matters and that accepting reality is the final form of happiness (semi srs).
There's literally a chapter called "With the ChildLike People" in which he is frustrated with how he cannot relate to normal people after his journey of self-improvement (dead srs). Go check it out and learn.
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Originally Posted By Chipwood⏩
Lol’dOthers have suggested reading good fiction to develop your empathy, and I agree. Even better than meditation.
OP go read Siddhartha by Hermann Hesse. It's about a miscer that goes no food, no pillow, no fap, becomes a CEO 10k/day and finally realizes that nothing of that matters and that accepting reality is the final form of happiness (semi srs).
There's literally a chapter called "With the ChildLike People" in which he is frustrated with how he cannot relate to normal people after his journey of self-improvement (dead srs). Go check it out and learn.
OP go read Siddhartha by Hermann Hesse. It's about a miscer that goes no food, no pillow, no fap, becomes a CEO 10k/day and finally realizes that nothing of that matters and that accepting reality is the final form of happiness (semi srs).
There's literally a chapter called "With the ChildLike People" in which he is frustrated with how he cannot relate to normal people after his journey of self-improvement (dead srs). Go check it out and learn.
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You couldn’t be more correct OP. I haven’t read through the thread yet, but it’s honestly a perfect recipe for depression. That’s not to say we shouldn’t all take a deep journey inward and examine why we are what we are. I just can’t quit arriving at the thought about how ignorance truly is bliss. There aren’t many people who can have a deep conversation and it’s sad that within the first 2 mins of said conversation it hits you like a truck that they’ve never had an original thought and are basically droning through life running on the least amount of functioning brain cells they need to do so.
This body holding me, be my reminder here that I am not alone.
Makes me feel eternal, all this Pain is an Illusion.
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self acceptance is the real self improvement
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We all should try hard to better ourselves, but don´t be surprised when you realize the top is a lonely place.
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Originally Posted By Basiliskboy⏩
High achievers are always going to be isolated in society by in large. You either dumb yourself down to fit in or find a community that thinks like you do which is hard. Don't change though.To put a long story short I spent a lot of years developing myself reading books about stoicism and the mindset of successful people, mediating for an hour or more a day having out of body higher consciousness experiences, having paradigm shifts in how I view myself and who I am, making art and understanding art, studying philosophy deeply and finding my purpose..
Yet here I am surrounded by people who watch fight compilation videos on YouTube
People who act petty or do things to start conflict for entertainment. People who are discontent and it shows in the way they act… so aimless chasing emotions minute by minute posturing around with such a small perspective on life. People whose only goal in life is the picket fence dream, nice big shiny car and a mate that’s good enough.
I’m surrounded by purposeless basics.
And I’m not saying any of this to sound like I’m so above anyone it’s just that I’m wired different and this game everyone else is playing that they’re trying to invite me into isn’t something I’m willing to partake in.
It’s rare I find someone I instantly connect with but after talking to them for a bit it’s always someone else whose on the same journey someone with a bit more going on between they’re ears. On the opposite end of the spectrum it’s always some basic mofo who feels uncomfortable around me. Some slack jawed gimp chasing any quality ass, living for the weekend, and no real goals other than getting laid and consuming.
I’m kinda venting but I’m to the point I just can’t deal with people who aren’t “on my level”. I really have to change my environment or only hang with those with my shared interests.
I never thought I’d get to the point where I’d write off someone as just an idiot but here I am.
Help?
Yet here I am surrounded by people who watch fight compilation videos on YouTube
People who act petty or do things to start conflict for entertainment. People who are discontent and it shows in the way they act… so aimless chasing emotions minute by minute posturing around with such a small perspective on life. People whose only goal in life is the picket fence dream, nice big shiny car and a mate that’s good enough.
I’m surrounded by purposeless basics.
And I’m not saying any of this to sound like I’m so above anyone it’s just that I’m wired different and this game everyone else is playing that they’re trying to invite me into isn’t something I’m willing to partake in.
It’s rare I find someone I instantly connect with but after talking to them for a bit it’s always someone else whose on the same journey someone with a bit more going on between they’re ears. On the opposite end of the spectrum it’s always some basic mofo who feels uncomfortable around me. Some slack jawed gimp chasing any quality ass, living for the weekend, and no real goals other than getting laid and consuming.
I’m kinda venting but I’m to the point I just can’t deal with people who aren’t “on my level”. I really have to change my environment or only hang with those with my shared interests.
I never thought I’d get to the point where I’d write off someone as just an idiot but here I am.
Help?
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It depends why you're self improving. If you're self improving for the sake of self improvement, and doing it in an aimless fashion then it's not good.
But if you're self improving specifically to get something that you want or to calm your pain/suffering and resolve real problems, then it's worth it.
At the end of the day, here's what matters IMO -
1. Self acceptance
2. Self Awareness/Knowledge
3. Health - Mental and physical
4. Resolving your suffering. Understand why you cause yourself this suffering.
5. Knowing what you want and improving as much as you need to get what you want.
So that's it. If you're improving but no knowing why you're improving, then it's toxic.
You have nothing to prove to anyone. You improve as much as you need to to be happy. That's it.
Resolve your suffering, and get what you want = Peace and Fulfillment.
But if you're self improving specifically to get something that you want or to calm your pain/suffering and resolve real problems, then it's worth it.
At the end of the day, here's what matters IMO -
1. Self acceptance
2. Self Awareness/Knowledge
3. Health - Mental and physical
4. Resolving your suffering. Understand why you cause yourself this suffering.
5. Knowing what you want and improving as much as you need to get what you want.
So that's it. If you're improving but no knowing why you're improving, then it's toxic.
You have nothing to prove to anyone. You improve as much as you need to to be happy. That's it.
Resolve your suffering, and get what you want = Peace and Fulfillment.
10-02-2020, 06:59 AM
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Find new friends...you need to be around achievers, not middle class shlubs. I still fuk with my friends that aren't on my level, but I choose to run in my own circle when it comes to grinding and achieving. Most people are basic sheep.
Just be aware that when you start winning whether it be career, finances, physique, etc. some of your so called friends will turn on you because of jealousy, or because of petty things like you don't want to drink and get fuked up every weekend with them. Some people evolve while the vast majority rot.
Just be aware that when you start winning whether it be career, finances, physique, etc. some of your so called friends will turn on you because of jealousy, or because of petty things like you don't want to drink and get fuked up every weekend with them. Some people evolve while the vast majority rot.
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10-02-2020, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted By aherpderp⏩
This is what I got from skim reading OPs post.
OP understand that some people aren't interested in self improving and others may already have/are but they're not obnoxious about it.
I hope you're not one of those insufferable self improvement book readers in real life.
Why are you hating, brah? Its like shaming people for not being fat and lazy. Strong self hate.
This is what I got from skim reading OPs post.
OP understand that some people aren't interested in self improving and others may already have/are but they're not obnoxious about it.
I hope you're not one of those insufferable self improvement book readers in real life.
10-02-2020, 08:15 AM
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Hey OP - how about reading about basic grammar before you move onto the pretentious stoicism etc?
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10-02-2020, 08:17 AM
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You don't need help.
You need to surround yourself with others who have walked your path or want to walk alongside you on the path.
Once you peer behind the veil you cannot undo it. You can only seek others who have the same capacity and desire.
You need to surround yourself with others who have walked your path or want to walk alongside you on the path.
Once you peer behind the veil you cannot undo it. You can only seek others who have the same capacity and desire.
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