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post 1616562291 09-15-2020, 01:54 AM
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Shoulder messed up plus Corona bloat but still hanging in there.

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Shoulder messed up plus Corona bloat but still hanging in there.

Mirin hard, you're in the top 5% of men your age
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Originally Posted By LordBroly⏩
Generally speaking, how long would you say it takes to reach one's natty limit? I realize I'm nowhere near, having only been lifting seriously for 3 years but I'm curious. I'm happy with my physique at the moment but still working on filling out. I weigh around 209 (95kg) and still feel like I'm too lanky and weak at this weight. I think hitting the 225-230 mark (lean-ish) would be pretty solid but that's a couple years away still.
Awhile. But after 5-6 years of legit training, it's going to be brutally slow. Sucks to have all variables checked just to gain 1-2 lbs of muscle in a year lol
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^Damn, wave_length you're looking good man, especially for 47.
Originally Posted By jk202⏩
Awhile. But after 5-6 years of legit training, it's going to be brutally slow. Sucks to have all variables checked just to gain 1-2 lbs of muscle in a year lol
Yeah, I've heard people saying that the rate of progress slows dramatically after a couple years of noob gains. To me this is just more proof that fitness has to become a lifestyle if you want to stick to it and really make the most of it.
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Originally Posted By LordBroly⏩
^Damn, wave_length you're looking good man, especially for 47.


Yeah, I've heard people saying that the rate of progress slows dramatically after a couple years of noob gains. To me this is just more proof that fitness has to become a lifestyle if you want to stick to it and really make the most of it.
Funny that.

Most people say that fitness and lifting in general shouldn't be a lifestyle, it should just be another 'hobby' that you do like everything else. Lifestyle is just a lifestyle when it's a main component of your life that you're willing to do for the rest of your life so I have no idea why people think having that lifestyle is a detriment to their own lives unless it's just pure cope from the person spouting all the bullchit
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Originally Posted By LordBroly⏩
Generally speaking, how long would you say it takes to reach one's natty limit? I realize I'm nowhere near, having only been lifting seriously for 3 years but I'm curious. I'm happy with my physique at the moment but still working on filling out. I weigh around 209 (95kg) and still feel like I'm too lanky and weak at this weight. I think hitting the 225-230 mark (lean-ish) would be pretty solid but that's a couple years away still.
lol at only 3 years

I benched 3 plates for reps and deadlifted 6 for reps after 3 years, thats a fukin long time and you will have damn near maxed out your potential after that long
post 1616565951 09-15-2020, 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted By Likeudo⏩
lol at only 3 years

I benched 3 plates for reps and deadlifted 6 for reps after 3 years, thats a fukin long time and you will have damn near maxed out your potential after that long
Lol at thinking your bench press and deadlift numbers are an indication of your muscle potential. Twinks out there can deadlift 6 plates and there's a little Asian guy benching 4 plates ffs. I can't because I haven't trained that way
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Originally Posted By ChangeOfStyle⏩
Funny that.

Most people say that fitness and lifting in general shouldn't be a lifestyle, it should just be another 'hobby' that you do like everything else. Lifestyle is just a lifestyle when it's amain component of your life that you're willing to do for the rest of your lifeso I have no idea why people think having that lifestyle is a detriment to their own lives unless it's just pure cope from the person spouting all the bullchit
That's how I interpret "lifestyle" as well. I just mean that if you want to see progress and impressive results in something, you can't simply pursue frivolous short term goals. It's just about sticking with it for the long haul.
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lol at only 3 years

I benched 3 plates for reps and deadlifted 6 for reps after 3 years, thats a fukin long time and you will have damn near maxed out your potential after that long
Interesting. I am nowhere near repping 3 plates on bench...can't even hit that for a single. I don't feel like I'm at my limit yet, especially since I'm continuing to get stronger. Either way, I plan on sticking with it.
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Originally Posted By LordBroly⏩
Interesting. I am nowhere near repping 3 plates on bench...can't even hit that for a single. I don't feel like I'm at my limit yet, especially since I'm continuing to get stronger. Either way, I plan on sticking with it.
His post count is also 55.. So there's that
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Originally Posted By LordBroly⏩
That's how I interpret "lifestyle" as well. I just mean that if you want to see progress and impressive results in something, you can't simply pursue frivolous short term goals. It's just about sticking with it for the long haul.


Interesting. I am nowhere near repping 3 plates on bench...can't even hit that for a single. I don't feel like I'm at my limit yet, especially since I'm continuing to get stronger. Either way, I plan on sticking with it.
Just keep at it, progressive overload is everything, and make sure your diet is in check too
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Originally Posted By LordBroly⏩
That's how I interpret "lifestyle" as well. I just mean that if you want to see progress and impressive results in something, you can't simply pursue frivolous short term goals. It's just about sticking with it for the long haul.


Interesting. I am nowhere near repping 3 plates on bench...can't even hit that for a single. I don't feel like I'm at my limit yet, especially since I'm continuing to get stronger. Either way, I plan on sticking with it.
Don't believe this cockhead mate. Keep doing what you're doing, i've legit almost been lifting for two years, i'm like a year and a half at most consecutively right now so I'm no where near my natty potential but i've had to stall a couple of time for personal reasons. Just fukn sucks when it's out of your control of lifting when you lift for 6-8 months consecutively then need to take a break for chit out of your control for like 4--6 months.

Also changing programs constantly was a fault, just need to always stick to the big three compounds and then input any accessory with whatever lifting method you can
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Originally Posted By jk202⏩
Lol at thinking your bench press and deadlift numbers are an indication of your muscle potential. Twinks out there can deadlift 6 plates and there's a little Asian guy benching 4 plates ffs. I can't because I haven't trained that way
You ever noticed how those powerlifters have huge legs but chitty upper bodies? Because strength is still a key component in gains. A stronger muscle has the potential to be a bigger muscle, fact.

Progressive overload is the best thing a natural can do, but also training in varying rep ranges and having a diet is key. That asian powerlifter doesn't even bulk, just stays at the same weight and focuses on CNS training
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Originally Posted By ChangeOfStyle⏩
Don't believe this cockhead mate. Keep doing what you're doing, i've legit almost been lifting for two years, i'm like a year and a half at most consecutively right now so I'm no where near my natty potential but i've had to stall a couple of time for personal reasons. Just fukn sucks when it's out of your control of lifting when you lift for 6-8 months consecutively then need to take a break for chit out of your control for like 4--6 months.

Also changing programs constantly was a fault, just need to always stick to the big three compounds and then input any accessory with whatever lifting method you can
I'm a cockhead because i said 3 years is not a short amount of time? Lol. Broly, its never too late to correct your mistakes, but 3 years consistent is a long time. In my first year i made a lot of mistakes but once i got everything into place it took off very well. You're gonna make it
post 1616566381 09-15-2020, 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted By Likeudo⏩
You ever noticed how those powerlifters have huge legs but chitty upper bodies? Because strength is still a key component in gains. A stronger muscle has the potential to be a bigger muscle, fact.

Progressive overload is the best thing a natural can do, but also training in varying rep ranges and having a diet is key. That asian powerlifter doesn't even bulk, just stays at the same weight and focuses on CNS training
I agree, i'm all about intensity and progressing lifts as much as anyone. But if i focused on getting strong AF on incline DB and hack squats the last 3-4 years, my barbell bench and squat isn't going to be on par with other dudes my size who focus on them

I still hit them both respectively for 3/5 plates for 1 in the last few weeks without training them, but give me a 8-10 weeks of doing them again and it would be for reps. That's my point

Also, big legs crew
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Originally Posted By ChangeOfStyle⏩
Don't believe this cockhead mate. Keep doing what you're doing, i've legit almost been lifting for two years, i'm like a year and a half at most consecutively right now so I'm no where near my natty potential but i've had to stall a couple of time for personal reasons. Just fukn sucks when it's out of your control of lifting when you lift for 6-8 months consecutively then need to take a break for chit out of your control for like 4--6 months.

Also changing programs constantly was a fault, just need to always stick to the big three compounds and then input any accessory with whatever lifting method you can
Not being able to train sucks for sure. I've been lucky during covid since I'm living at home and have a barbell, plates, a bench and a rack. I've been able to continue with all the compound movements unimpeded. The setbacks definitely take their toll though. It feels like you're running in circles since you don't progress as fast. Hopefully you're able to carry on nicely from here on out. I'm sure gyms by you have opened, right? As for programs, choosing a good one and sticking to it is key. For bench I'm actually using a program that Arn designed for AshWar lol. So far so good! Here it is if you're interested:https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...hp?t=176759161
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Originally Posted By jk202⏩
I agree, i'm all about intensity and progressing lifts as much as anyone. But if i focused on getting strong AF on incline DB and hack squats the last 3-4 years, my barbell bench and squat isn't going to be on par with other dudes my size who focus on them

I still hit them both respectively for 3/5 plates for 1 in the last few weeks without training them, but give me a 8-10 weeks of doing them again and it would be for reps. That's my point

Also, big legs crew
Good points

I think just doing a variation of different exercises and getting strong as possible at them all is key, its good to change it every so often too, but of course you'll probably have your staple movements. And yeah true, the more frequent you do something the better you're going to be at it. Just do the movements frequently enough so it doesn't feel foreign when you come back to it and you'll be fine.
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Originally Posted By LordBroly⏩
Not being able to train sucks for sure. I've been lucky during covid since I'm living at home and have a barbell, plates, a bench and a rack. I've been able to continue with all the compound movements unimpeded. The setbacks definitely take their toll though. It feels like you're running in circles since you don't progress as fast. Hopefully you're able to carry on nicely from here on out. I'm sure gyms by you have opened, right? As for programs, choosing a good one and sticking to it is key. For bench I'm actually using a program that Arn designed for AshWar lol. So far so good! Here it is if you're interested:https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...hp?t=176759161
If Arn says to do something you do it.
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Originally Posted By LordBroly⏩
Not being able to train sucks for sure. I've been lucky during covid since I'm living at home and have a barbell, plates, a bench and a rack. I've been able to continue with all the compound movements unimpeded. The setbacks definitely take their toll though. It feels like you're running in circles since you don't progress as fast. Hopefully you're able to carry on nicely from here on out. I'm sure gyms by you have opened, right? As for programs, choosing a good one and sticking to it is key. For bench I'm actually using a program that Arn designed for AshWar lol. So far so good! Here it is if you're interested:https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...hp?t=176759161
Yeah gyms been opened for like 2-3 months now so it's been solid, strength's come back up except my bench press strength but what I realized somehow is that my bench press strength increased while I was including heavy weighted dips in my routine so I put them back in again. As long as I can hit 100kg for reps, I'm honestly happy but I'm probably at like back to 90kg for reps right now so it's not all doom. I've realized my aesthetics overtake my strength by a mile like my shoulders, people expect me to be OHP pressing a chit ton of weight or benching a chit ton of weight but truth be told, I can't just yet. I'll check out that program and see how it is.
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Originally Posted By Likeudo⏩
Mirin hard, you're in the top 5% of men your age
Originally Posted By LordBroly⏩
^Damn, wave_length you're looking good man, especially for 47.
Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
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Originally Posted By jk202⏩
If Arn says to do something you do it.
Exactly. He was probably one of the strongest posters on here. what happened to him? He just went awol.
Originally Posted By ChangeOfStyle⏩
Yeah gyms been opened for like 2-3 months now so it's been solid, strength's come back up except my bench press strength but what I realized somehow is that my bench press strength increased while I was including heavy weighted dips in my routine so I put them back in again. As long as I can hit 100kg for reps, I'm honestly happy but I'm probably at like back to 90kg for reps right now so it's not all doom. I've realized my aesthetics overtake my strength by a mile like my shoulders, people expect me to be OHP pressing a chit ton of weight or benching a chit ton of weight but truth be told, I can't just yet. I'll check out that program and see how it is.
Good to hear they've been open for that long. I also had good results from dips when i used to do them. I've dabbled with weighted bench dips here at home and they do work, but they feel somewhat uncomfortable on my shoulders so i stick to presses (flat bench, incline and ohp). Yeah, despite what people say, hitting 100kg for solid reps is a very decent strength standard for most guys. You'll get back there soon enough. Definitely take a look at it. Like JK said, if Arn recommends something you can be sure it's legit.
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Originally Posted By LordBroly⏩
Exactly. He was probably one of the strongest posters on here. what happened to him? He just went awol.
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Outside of a few good posters, this place is a retarded cesspool now. He's smarter than us and left haha.

I'm lucky enough that we talk almost daily
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Originally Posted By jk202⏩
Outside of a few good posters, this place is a retarded cesspool now. He's smarter than us and left haha.

I'm lucky enough that we talk almost daily
Damn, gone for good. And yeah, it's become almost unbearable...especially over the last few months. New alts chit everyday smdh.
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Originally Posted By ChangeOfStyle⏩
Funny that.

Most people say that fitness and lifting in general shouldn't be a lifestyle, it should just be another 'hobby' that you do like everything else. Lifestyle is just a lifestyle when it's a main component of your life that you're willing to do for the rest of your life so I have no idea why people think having that lifestyle is a detriment to their own lives unless it's just pure cope from the person spouting all the bullchit
Most people are wrong!

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It's honestly safe to say brahs the reason why I'm still in this chithole of a forum is because of the lifters here, the advice, the stories and experiences pretty much sums it all up. I don't come here for laughs anymore because it isn't that type of place. People really dragged it down and it's filled with social rejects and generally mentally ill kids

Glad to be part of this crew tho
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Originally Posted By LordBroly⏩
That's how I interpret "lifestyle" as well. I just mean that if you want to see progress and impressive results in something, you can't simply pursue frivolous short term goals.It's just about sticking with it for the long haul.
This!

I have to admit it has been difficult getting back to the gym after they've been closed.

It's very easy to just not bother but then I fell and look like crap.

I'm finally back on track.



Originally Posted By LordBroly⏩
Interesting. I am nowhere near repping 3 plates on bench...can't even hit that for a single. I don't feel like I'm at my limit yet, especially since I'm continuing to get stronger.Either way, I plan on sticking with it.
You'll thank yourself years down the road for sticking with it.
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Originally Posted By ChangeOfStyle⏩
It's honestly safe to say brahs the reason why I'm still in this chithole of a forum is because of the lifters here, the advice, the stories and experiences pretty much sums it all up. I don't come here for laughs anymore because it isn't that type of place. People really dragged it down and it's filled with social rejects and generally mentally ill kids

Glad to be part of this crew tho
I don't know, it's still quite funny sometimes.
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Originally Posted By wave_length⏩
Shoulder messed up plus Corona bloat but still hanging in there.

Looking good, youngling!
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Mirin hard, you're in the top 5% of men your age
more like top .001% lol
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Originally Posted By deltpecx⏩
Looking good, youngling!
Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
more like top .001% lol
Thanks guys, motivates the s**t out of me.

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Thanks guys, motivates the s**t out of me.

If only the wife didn't cook every day now thanks to corona. I'm gonna end up with a massive case of dreamer bulk.
Had a box of fruity pebbles and another one of cocoa pebbles last night (100% srs). Put me right around 3100-3200 cals lol, slightly below maintenance.

Thats life son sometimes **** happens
"The flowers bloom, then wither... The stars shine and one day become extinct. This earth, the sun, the galaxies and even the big universe, someday will be destroyed. Compared with that, the human life is only a blink, just a little time. In that short time - people are born, laugh, cry, fight, are injured, feel joy, sadness, hate someone, love someone. All in just a moment. And then, are embraced by the eternal sleep called death."
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