Calling Out 'Traditional Men' On The Misc....

09-30-2020, 06:25 AM

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Calling Out 'Traditional Men' On The Misc....

Originally Posted By ****inator⏩

Not your fault you're feeling this way OP, many do. Nihilism is the disease of the modern world.

As long as our society lacks religion and other traditional social norms, this will only get worse, modern tech and social media are catalysts for this tendency.

Read some Nietzsche, he tackles these questions. He thought that if man became an "ubermensch" we could thrive in a society without religion, problem is we are humans and flawed so that didn't work out...

Going back to a traditional society is the only way out of this..

Originally Posted By ****inator⏩

As OP stated, many people fall into the trap of nihilism becausewe lack the traditional foundation a society needs to survive.So many statistics that point this out too.

The irony of those statements is that you are on the misc.

Which does not spread traditional culture, by any means. It demands it of women, but we men on here are talking about hnnnnnnnngggggggg, banging sloots, whoremaxxing, why women who aren't of above average looks are worthless, anti-marriage, pro-MGTOW, etc.

I'm not a trad dude, so I'm not being a hypocrite myself, but I always scratch my head when guys on the misc talk about a need to return to trad values and lifestyles, when the misc promotes degenerate values and lifestyles.

Miscers are not traditional men, and traditional women would want nothing to do with men who think they way miscers do. They are looking for religious, family and community minded men, not men talking about eating ass, banging sloots, and squirming over IG models.

Cliffs:

Men who say that society needs to return to trad psychology, values, and lifestyle, are frequent posters on the misc, which promotes hedonism, materialism, promiscuity, lusting after randoms, anti-trade worker, and anti-marriage.

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The lifestyle promoted by the misc...

My questions;

What are you doing on the misc?

Do you click on and participate in hnnnnnggggg, ass eating, 'just banged this sloot', and 'rate this sloot' threads?

How is this congruent with a trad psychology, values, and lifestyle?

09-30-2020, 06:38 AM

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we are moving into a new age so traditionalism isn't going to exist anymore (I mean it doesn't already) most people here pretend they like old traditions but at the same time they want fast hook ups on tinder etc. that's just impossible you can't have both.

Men who say that society needs to return to trad psychology, values, and lifestyle, are frequent posters on the misc, which promotes hedonism, materialism, promiscuity, lusting after randoms, anti-trade worker, and anti-marriage.

you actually said it already.

09-30-2020, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted By messomi⏩

most people here pretend they like old traditions but at the same time they want fast hook ups on tinder etc. that's just impossible you can't have both.

Exactly.

It's like non trad women who want complain about not being able to find a chivalrous gentlemen. The misc would call her delusional, yet the misc demands that women be trad whilst exchanging tips on whoremaxxing, and posting tiktok videos of teen girls dancing to WAP.

09-30-2020, 06:47 AM

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Yeah I've always had a laugh at the "pot calling the kettle black"that goes on on this forum.

I wouldn't recommend anyone waste their time with Nietzsche though. What a cynic.

09-30-2020, 06:51 AM

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Surely there are traditional men on here that do not condone "nnnnnnnngggggggg, banging sloots, whoremaxxing, why women who aren't of above average looks are worthless, anti-marriage, pro-MGTOW, etc."

And surely there are a lot of hypocrites that do both.

Are you just talking about the hypocrites?

09-30-2020, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted By SultanofBling⏩

Yeah I've always had a laugh at the "pot calling the kettle black"that goes on on this forum.

I wouldn't recommend anyone waste their time with Nietzsche though. What a cynic.

09-30-2020, 06:56 AM

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09-30-2020, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted By Rajc⏩

so your call out is really a attack on masculinity, s

No, it's call out on traditional males, who say they want society to return to traditional values, whilst being on a site the is quite frankly degenerate.

You seem to be arguing in support of primitive masculinity, when I'm talking about the people who support traditional male and female lifestyles (which you clearly don't).

09-30-2020, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted By Sandmang27⏩

Surely there are traditional men on here that do not condone "nnnnnnnngggggggg, banging sloots, whoremaxxing, why women who aren't of above average looks are worthless, anti-marriage, pro-MGTOW, etc."

And surely there are a lot of hypocrites that do both.

Are you just talking about the hypocrites?

This site in general promotes non-traditional values, and is often anti-traditonal values (e.g. promoting promiscuity, anti-marriage, and pro-MGTOW).

The same dudes who talk about promoting trad values, probably also probably have a post history in 'hnnnnnnngggggg', IG, Onlyfans, tiktok, 'banging sloot', etc, threads. And not critical posts. I'd also bet money that the lurk at the 'Hnnnnnnnnnngggg', whotemaxxing, and banging sloots threads.

For a few years I was becoming increasing interested in pursuing a religious life, and I thought that I would need to leave this site because the values of this site are in blatant contradiction, but eventually I left the pursuit of religious life. If someone would have made a callout of thread liek this during that time, I would have simply said that they were right.

09-30-2020, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted By Rajc⏩

if you do not support traditional gender roles then you are beyond retarded, truth of the situation is even if you want you can't because traditional values imply a healthy society, which we are not part of

That's just sounds like being a weak willed man IMO.

Because the circumstances are tough, you give up on the pursuit.

so while we do wish for it to exist in our world, we accept it does not and that's why we try to make the best out of the environment we live in according to our nature

Again, that just sounds like being weak willed.

No masculine philosophy I've ever come across has advocated letting the world dictate your values. From Yukio Mishima, to the Stoics, to The Fascists. Not a single one.

No religious philosophy advocates that either.

They all stay to stick by your values and principles, regardless of the state of the world.

A masculine poem, about a masculine virtue...

Taken from the masculine and philosophical movie; The Grey.

09-30-2020, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩

This site in general promotes non-traditional values, and is often anti-traditonal values (e.g. promoting promiscuity, anti-marriage, and pro-MGTOW).

The same dudes who talk about promoting trad values, probably also probably have a post history in 'hnnnnnnngggggg', IG, Onlyfans, tiktok, 'banging sloot', etc, threads. And not critical posts. I'd also bet money that the lurk at the 'Hnnnnnnnnnngggg', whotemaxxing, and banging sloots threads.

For a few years I was becoming increasing interested in pursuing a religious life, and I thought that I would need to leave this site because the values of this site are in blatant contradiction, but eventually I left the pursuit of religious life. If someone would have made a callout of thread liek this during that time, I would have simply said that they were right.

why would you want to pursue a religious lifestyle?

09-30-2020, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted By messomi⏩

why would you want to pursue a religious lifestyle?

Because I believe it's one of the best ways to get closer to God. The communal spirituality, the practices, the heritage, the art, and the mentorship.

The isolated eclectic path (which I am unfortunately on), is very easy to get 'lost', diverted, or demotivated, IME.

I couldn't square my values with the general community though, so I abandoned it.

09-30-2020, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩

Because I believe it's one of the best ways to get closer to God. The communal spirituality, the practices, the heritage, the art, and the mentorship.

The isolated eclectic path (which I am unfortunately on), is very easy to get 'lost', diverted, or demotivated, IME.

I couldn't square my values with the general community though, so I abandoned it.

you can get closer to "god" without the religious part you just need to be spiritual you don't need to follow any religion.

09-30-2020, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted By Rajc⏩

again, masculinity is not equal to traditional values

Exactly.

So why are you trying to argue about masculinity in a thread about traditional masculinity?

i explained to you what masculinity is, your arguments prove my point and agree with miscers behaviours

masculinity = bang many sloots, get hyooge and moneymaxx

That's your view of masculinity.

A very materialist view of masculinity. Where male are no different from male chimpanzees. With no belief in the spiritual aspects of masculinity, only the biological.

we just know that a traditional family equals a healthy society, that doesn't mean it's very masculine

Again, this thread is about traditional masculine men, not your notion of masculinity.

09-30-2020, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted By messomi⏩

you can get closer to "god" without the religious part you just need to be spiritual you don't need to follow any religion.

I already said...

The isolated eclectic path (which I am unfortunately on), is very easy to get 'lost', diverted, or demotivated, IME.

I've seen it a lot with people who are commonly called 'new agers'. An egocentricism often develops IMO, when that is one of the key things that religion warn against.

What also annoys me is the abandonment and denigration of tradition within that group. There is a strong disdain IME for Christianity, really strong.

09-30-2020, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted By Rajc⏩

he needs something to follow because he is not masculine, same reason he made this thread

that's not true ibne and this thread has a very valid point the misc is full of hypocrites and morons this guy is a good poster overall but he gets a lot of **** here for some reason.

people here want a traditional woman that cooks and cleans but at the same time there was a thread about a female miscer that was a stay at home mom and she was insulted and ridiculed here left and right.

09-30-2020, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted By Rajc⏩

he needs something to follow because he is not masculine, same reason he made this thread

Contributing to, and being part of something greater than yourself is not masculine according to you?

Regardless of what you think of Fascism, are you honestly saying that the Fascist ethos of 'stronger together', and devoting oneself to nation, community and family are not masculine?

09-30-2020, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted By Rajc⏩

oglum people here want a FEMININE woman, a feminine woman will want to cook and clean and please her man.. in that case those are also harmonized with traditional values
a MASCULINE man however is not equal to a TRADITIONAL man, do NOT mistake these things, society works better when men do not have free roam and that's the reality of our nature

the single mom was ridiculed because she was not FEMININE enough to lock a man down in a world where it is VERY easy to keep a man attached to you, just be NICE to him and SUCK HIS DINK - the treshhold is SO LOW today and yet she STILL DID NOT MANAGE TO DO THAT
she got ridiculed for that

you are wrong women like that don't exist anymore and I assume you want someone your own age and not aunt betsy who is now 50 and also the one I am talking about isn't single she is married.

09-30-2020, 07:44 AM

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No comment on the actual content of your thread but I'm so glad you informed me that this is even a thing. A really enjoyable rabbit hole to go down.

09-30-2020, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted By Rajc⏩

the pinnacle of masculinity is the one leading the nation not the followers,

This wasn't about the pinnacle of masculinity, it was about masculinity.

those might have masculine traits aswell (in your case they do)

So you acknowledge you can be masculine and be a follower

09-30-2020, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted By redraider86⏩

No comment on the actual content of your thread but I'm so glad you informed me that this is even a thing. A really enjoyable rabbit hole to go down.

LOL, I look forward to you future reports.

09-30-2020, 07:54 AM

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I think there are plenty of trad miscers. You can still be trad and shoot the chit tongue in cheek with your buddies. You think family men at gentlemen's clubs in the past were all polite and couth all the time?

09-30-2020, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted By Rajc⏩

you keep insisting that miscers are hipocritical for not behaving like they live in a fantasy world lmfao

What's your definition of hypocrisy?

Would someone who says that gambling is wrong and that they don't gamble, but gambles be a hypocrite to you?

What about a man who says that they believe in traditional values and are a traditional man, but engage in non-traditional behaviour?

09-30-2020, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted By PenorBrahNoHomo⏩

I think there are plenty of trad miscers. You can still be trad and shoot the chit tongue in cheek with your buddies. You think family men at gentlemen's clubs in the past were all polite and couth all the time?

That was a culture that was trad by default. You really couldn't behave in any other way, and not face massive social backlash - so dissent took place in private. Those kind of men, if there was likely no negative social consequences, would possibly abandon the external trad life.

There was a point when I was a trad man, srs. I was a religious muslim. I assure you my closest muslim companions and I, did not engage in the kind of talk that miscers did.

Trad life is now not extrinsic motivation to be trad (like pre mid 20th century), so now anyone who declares themselves a traditional man has consciously adopted the values, ideal, and lifestyle. It's one thing to follow something because it's the default, and it's another thing to consciously declare that you follow a philosophy.

09-30-2020, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted By Rajc⏩

no one says they are traditional here they just say they believe it is the correct way for a society to function optimally

Fair point.

Although, I was calling out the men who call themselves traditional men.

09-30-2020, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted By messomi⏩

that's not true ibne and this thread has a very valid point the misc is full of hypocrites and morons this guy is a good poster overall but he gets a lot of **** here for some reason.

people here want a traditional woman that cooks and cleans but at the same time there was a thread about a female miscer that was a stay at home mom and she was insulted and ridiculed here left and right.

Originally Posted By messomi⏩

you arewrong women like that don't exist anymore and I assume you want someone your own age and not aunt betsy who is now 50and also the one I am talking about isn't single she is married.

Not like trad life even necessarily worked out for Betsy.

I grew up with two very traditional grandmas; one that I spent so much time with she was like my second mom.

Put my time and energy into a husband/child; meanwhile I have two cousins near my age that never married and mainly focused on their careers.

At least one of them is still sad she didn't have a family (dog mom). By most any measure they have ended up better off- both small business owners, one is an attorney and one is a pharmacist.

Seems like most people aren't happy, but here we are.

09-30-2020, 10:41 AM

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09-30-2020, 10:46 AM

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Most miscers never got past it when they learned that you could not have your cake and eat it too

09-30-2020, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩

Nah, miscers complain that their cake is smaller than someone else's, so they refuse to have it or eat it.

There is a family story that we tell in my house, about how my little brother cried over that fact that my cake had more buttercream on it so he wouldn't eat until it was even.

It's a lot like that, but he was like 3

09-30-2020, 10:54 AM

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These social norms are developed over a period of thousands of years and maybe there is a reason for them. Like all culture. This "anything goes" mentality where there are no standards or traditons leads to a much darker road. Those with no class hate people with class because they will never be them. They can't go off and just do it themselves for themselves because it won't work.

Bottom line is that if you are confused, everyone else being confused isn't going to make you less confused.

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