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post 1624172981 12-01-2020, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted By katya422
Ah it's a little bit hoping to move the needle a little closer toward unity (tough if you can't even agree on how many people are dead) and a little bit hoping to slow down the drop off in traffic here.

If you lost someone from this would you want to hang out in a place where everyone is hollering that it's all fake or that the people who died "deserved it" or don't count because they were old?
No, I get your point, it’s ruining your misc experience. My sis lives in a heavily populated area and she’s lost friends to it not to mention it’s come quite close to reaching her personally. I’m very worried about my parents, they are very social ppl and I know this pandemic is hard on them, especially when they have to limit their visits with some of their children. If it truly was fake, NOBODY would put up with it.
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lmao at all the abuse that katya is receiving in this thread.
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Originally Posted By CougarP01
Its crazy because its so obvious the types of people that are hardest hit by this virus...the people most prone to complications...obese..high blood pressure...etc.

I bet we can look at obesity and health statistics 3 years from now, and obesity, smoking, exercise rates won't even budge. That says a lot. If I knew a disease was coming after me because I have the underlying health conditions, I would work my ass off to fix that.
Exactly. Why is America getting hit harder than most? Ummm...probably because we are a country of fat/unhealthy people with an obesity rate near 40%. But NO ONE talks about this cuz "my feelings" and "body positive!". Everyone just keeps preaching to wear your face mask and save lives....... They should be telling everyone "A little less taco bell and a little more treadmill."
Originally Posted By elterrible987
my retired neighbors are always bitching about drumpf, about covid, blah blah blah. They both smoke.

These people only read headlines or watch talking heads on CNN. Case in point - they were complaining they couldnt wear their masks with the ventilators on the plane. They didnt understand why. They were hardcore maskcels and panicels but didnt understand the clear logic for that rule, why maybe the airline doesnt want people breathing out unfiltered air into the cabin, because despite being old and in a high risk category, they never took any time to actually read up on covid.
Agreed, way too many people are getting their "science" from the MSM, which is absurd.
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Originally Posted By devin45k
It's not fake.

It's not as dangerous as people are making it out to be and is being used as a political tool.


People bring up numbers but they dont bring up the number inflation and how Flu deaths are pretty much non-existent now because they are being classified as Covid. I believe all overall deaths are lower than normal right now.
This.

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Originally Posted By messomi
lmao at all the abuse that katya is receiving in this thread.
lol i repped all the people with the good comments
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The lockdowns are causing more harm themselves.


- People are developing mental issues like depression and anxiety.

- People are losing their entire life’s worth of hard work

- People are developing obesity and bad habits


Let people make a choice of working from home and let the others stay at home, its not that hard. If I go to the gym and a party Im not bothering anyone that is working from home, simple solution. If people are so afraid let them use caution like curbside pickup and all that stuff instead of locking everyone down.

I’ll be honest here, I developed anxiety, insomnia, and gained an unhealthy amount of weight since the gyms are closed (don’t give me the workout at home bull****). I lost the raise I was going to get at work, and now lost all my hobbies because of this scam. Is it worth it? **** no
-Some people say good things come to those who wait, truth is, good things come to those who work..... who work later.....who work harder...... who are willing to go further than anyone else to get them. If you're waiting for good things to come to you, you'll be waiting for a pretty long time.

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Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333
Exactly. Why is America getting hit harder than most? Ummm...probably because we are a country of fat/unhealthy people with an obesity rate near 40%. But NO ONE talks about this cuz "my feelings" and "body positive!". Everyone just keeps preaching to wear your face mask and save lives....... They should be telling everyone "A little less taco bell and a little more treadmill."



Agreed, way too many people are getting their "science" from the MSM, which is absurd.
Theyre old, they have multiple health problems, the dude just had some kind of surgery, they both smoke and the thing is that vented masks were talked about in the MSM, not a lot but some, so it just shows that despite having some very strong opinions on Covid, they arent even paying attention at all. You would think at risk of dying they would take the time to read over everything available. Maybe even quit smoking this year to improve lung health. Theyre not even working, they have all day. But they have the strength and convictions in their opinions as someone who is an expert, that is what the MSM has done in manipulating people, a lot are easily manipulated and all of these people are voters.
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Originally Posted By xvicknumber7x
it killed my grandpa and I still think its overblown and ridiculous how we are responding to it tbh, i had it and its the flu. it does not warrant the insane response that it has received under any circumstance when looking at the numbers.
There are those who respond insanely to it for sure and then there are those that take it too lightly like yourself, just because you overcame it, if someone else gets it from you, they may not, how bad would you feel if someone died because of you? Treat it for what it is, a serious threat to you and your loved ones health, not the end of the world but not something to ignore.
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Originally Posted By Merc009
The lockdowns are causing more harm themselves.


- People are developing mental issues like depression and anxiety.

- People are losing their entire life’s worth of hard work

- People are developing obesity and bad habits


Let people make a choice of working from home and let the others stay at home, its not that hard. If I go to the gym and a party Im not bothering anyone that is working from home, simple solution. If people are so afraid let them use caution like curbside pickup and all that stuff instead of locking everyone down.

I’ll be honest here, I developed anxiety, insomnia, and gained an unhealthy amount of weight since the gyms are closed (don’t give me the workout at home bull****). I lost the raise I was going to get at work, and now lost all my hobbies because of this scam. Is it worth it? **** no
Only 7k deaths total nation wide all year for people 44 and under. That includes those with major health issues and those in car crashes that were covid positive. Everything should be fully open and if you are old or high risk then they can take extra precautions or stay at home. 80% of the deaths are retirement age so why are we shutdown.
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Originally Posted By yieldtonothing
Expected this thread to be about pro wrestling
That was literally my first thought when I read the thread title lol
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Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333
Everyone just keeps preaching to wear your face mask and save lives....... They should be telling everyone "A little less taco bell and a little more treadmill."
Yep. Yet the CNN Health section is Covid fearmongering and a ghost town on what you can really do about it. Its a shame really.
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only 6% of those deaths were from covid only.

the average age of covid death is OLDER than the average age of death. aka it's essentially only killing off the 'very old' who had it coming

typical uninformed woman take lol there's a reason women weren't allowed to vote until the 1920s and that's because yall are SHEEP who cannot think for themselves lmao
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Originally Posted By sooby
people are calling it "fake" to bring attention to how subsequent lockdowns have completely destroyed people's lives and how government are using it as an excuse to take away your basic rights, encroaching on your freedoms and be completely at their mercy. governments have been using the tired excuse "it's because of covid!" to enforce every draconian measure under the sun.
Originally Posted By notbadnotbrad
What if you lost someone to suicide due to the government bankrupting that person and destroying their life, their families life and everything they worked for. Would you want to talk to someone supporting the locks downs?
Originally Posted By Sophus
500k people die in the U.S. every year from smoking. People die every day, b. The global lockdowns that have been happening aren't about saving lives, not even in the slightest
Originally Posted By Conspirabrah
COVID IS a "hoax", in the sense that it's NOT a "pandemic". It is a rather severe flu. As others on here have mentioned, the death numbers have been SEVERELY inflated.
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Doesn't warrant the complete destruction of millions of people's livelihoods

Nothing does, really
Originally Posted By Blasting
Yeah, not sure I understand why people call it fake.

I agree with people that say it’s been politicized, that it’s not nearly as dangerous as once thought (or some people still think), the numbers are probably exaggerated, the masks probably aren’t as effective as they claim, the economy definitely shouldn’t be shut down, that “permanent damage” exists for a year-old virus can’t be proven, etc. I’m certainly not afraid of getting the virus.

But you can’t deny that it’s more deadly than the flu. You can’t deny that people who would normally be fine from the flu are getting very sick and potentially dealing with long term issues.

Cliffs: Flu folks and panicles are both misplaced.
Clipped some and multi quote.

Thought I covered these in the OP.

Not asking anyone to change their stance on:

- government response
- media coverage
- agenda/psy op/conspiracy/etc.

Just saying it's time to drop "fake". In case you missed it:



That is deaths from all causes in the US starting Jan. 1 2017. There are more total people dead than on average no matter what you think they died from.
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Originally Posted By Merc009
The lockdowns are causing more harm themselves.


- People are developing mental issues like depression and anxiety.

- People are losing their entire life’s worth of hard work

- People are developing obesity and bad habits


Let people make a choice of working from home and let the others stay at home, its not that hard. If I go to the gym and a party Im not bothering anyone that is working from home, simple solution. If people are so afraid let them use caution like curbside pickup and all that stuff instead of locking everyone down.

I’ll be honest here, I developed anxiety, insomnia, and gained an unhealthy amount of weight since the gyms are closed (don’t give me the workout at home bull****). I lost the raise I was going to get at work, and now lost all my hobbies because of this scam. Is it worth it? **** no
this. same man. social life is gone, gained weight, and hobbies took a hit. coming back now but for a while everything was closed so what choice did anyone have. it'll be fine tho we're all gonna make it.
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Originally Posted By jamalfudge
How did we go from 10k in August/September to 275k without serious fukkery going on?
How did trump go from having a substantial lead in Michigan at 10pm to being behind by hundred of thousands of votes at 3am?
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You're talking to a large group of people on this site that believe Trump is gonna win the election due to voter fraud with zero evidence.

People on this site are terrible when it comes to rational thinking. They believed it was serious when it was a potential CT, now that it's mainstream they now have to still hang onto a CT narrative and will jump onto anything.

This site is rampant with CT filled theories and people jumping on them with very little intelligence
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Originally Posted By Jaydawg08
You're talking to a large group of people on this site that believe Trump is gonna win the election due to voter fraud with zero evidence.

People on this site are terrible when it comes to rational thinking. They believed it was serious when it was a potential CT, now that it's mainstream they now have to still hang onto a CT narrative and will jump onto anything.

This site is rampant with CT filled theories and people jumping on them with very little intelligence
Youve been pushing out the conspiracy theory that youre black for the last 6 years.
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Originally Posted By yieldtonothing
Expected this thread to be about pro wrestling
Originally Posted By devin45k
That was literally my first thought when I read the thread title lol
Reasonable. 'Tis misc after all.

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Everyone in my state died
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Originally Posted By messomi
lmao at all the abuse that katya is receiving in this thread.
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Originally Posted By Jaydawg08
You're talking to a large group of people on this site that believe Trump is gonna win the election due to voter fraud with zero evidence.

People on this site are terrible when it comes to rational thinking. They believed it was serious when it was a potential CT, now that it's mainstream they now have to still hang onto a CT narrative and will jump onto anything.

This site is rampant with CT filled theories and people jumping on them with very little intelligence
says the guy that believed in the Russian collusion conspiracy theory

Please spare us your bs
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Originally Posted By Blasting
Yeah, not sure I understand why people call it fake.

I agree with people that say it’s been politicized, that it’s not nearly as dangerous as once thought (or some people still think), the numbers are probably exaggerated, the masks probably aren’t as effective as they claim, the economy definitely shouldn’t be shut down, that “permanent damage” exists for a year-old virus can’t be proven, etc. I’m certainly not afraid of getting the virus.

But you can’t deny that it’s more deadly than the flu. You can’t deny that people who would normally be fine from the flu are getting very sick and potentially dealing with long term issues.

Cliffs: Flu folks and panicles are both misplaced.
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Has op found anybody calling it fake in the context of covid-19 being a non-existent virus yet? Isn't that the premise of her post?
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Originally Posted By 5x10
says the guy that believed in the Russian collusion conspiracy theory

Please spare us your bs
Proof? Because I always stayed pat waiting for the reports and information.. you know, like a rational intelligent human

Unfortunately we don't have a lot of that on this board
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Originally Posted By JaymzJ
There are those who respond insanely to it for sure and then there are those that take it too lightly like yourself, just because you overcame it, if someone else gets it from you, they may not, how bad would you feel if someone died because of you? Treat it for what it is, a serious threat to you and your loved ones health, not the end of the world but not something to ignore.
im not being an idiot about it and im staying home for work, wearing a mask for courtesy etc. but i still hold my personal beliefs that this whole response is overblown and more dangerous than the disease itself. there is civic responsibility but then there is also over the top drama like this that promotes the idea that we need to tank the economy for this.
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What’s the average age of death?
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not fake but not even close to be dangerous enough to justify a lockdown.
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Soys always put their feelings into everything without facts. They see omg 275k dead wowwww start crying....Guess what soys people die. And before COVID just as many people died. From other causes. You will die. I will die. It know it's confusing to your feelings
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It’s real, real dumb to shut down small businesses over.

The government has us right where they want us, this won’t be the last lock down in our lifetime.

People die everyday and we just go on with our daily lives, but now it’s on the front page of every website and news station being shoved down boomers throats
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