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post 1627624763 01-06-2021, 03:51 AM
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Surprised nobody's mentioned Hammer Strength machines yet...
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post 1627625563 01-06-2021, 04:20 AM
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[QUOTE=TomWanks post_id=1627620833]I think barbell and dumbbell bench are both essential to building a good chest, but machines really help you fill the muscles with blood after stretching them out doing the plyometrics.

My chest days alternate by primary plyometric (incline/flat/decline) barbell bench. Then I follow up with flat dumbbell bench on incline/decline weeks and incline dumbbell bench on flat weeks.

After that, I'm on the supine press machine doing one of like five routines I've written-- imo, this is the best machine for chest and it's not even close. After that it's all really hyper-focused isometric work.

[img]https://opti-fit.soolis.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/728x/17f82f742ffe127f42dca9de82fb58b1/s/u/supine_bench_press.png[/img[/QUOTE]I think those machines look great, but I've yet to actually see one in a gym.
post 1627627133 01-06-2021, 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted By DynamicDot⏩
Dumbbells > Barbell > Cable Machines > Smith Machine
this

Just do them all if want to take advantage of them all.
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post 1627627343 01-06-2021, 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
I think those machines look great, but I've yet to actually see one in a gym.
I'd never seen them before either brah, but the commercial gym in my neighborhood has two of them. I was just phucking around and tried it out one day. I was blown away by how may different killer exercises you can do on them.
post 1627641113 01-06-2021, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted By tcatcrawler⏩
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Originally Posted By Johnez⏩
Surprised nobody's mentioned Hammer Strength machines yet...
i did lol
Originally Posted By 2RDEYE⏩
chest machine is definitely more superior than the smith. smith is horrible. no idea why they invented that machine.

hammer strength chest machines are awesome. if ur gym has those. i think you could build an amazing chest just with them
The hammer strength machines are the only actual machines worth using in my experience. I think they may be more effective for chest than bench for the general population because it gets that squeeze and contraction properly and is safer. Pec fly/rear delt machine as well, when done properly.
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post 1627641323 01-06-2021, 08:42 AM
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Machines always gives the same pump but always with 30% more weight compared to free weight .

Whether its chest,shoulders,bi,tri i get the same burn but i need to do more weight to feel it.
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Originally Posted By DynamicDot⏩
Dumbbells > Barbell > Cable Machines > Smith Machine
This is smart.

A HUGE issue with Bars and chest is that most people bring the bar down by neck when benching. That focuses on your SHOULDERS more than your chest.

What engages your pecs is when you bring the weight in line with the tip of your sternum, not your neck. However, that's an unnatural movement when using a bar. However, if you are using dumbbells, it is easy to bring the weights down over your sternum because that's a natural movement and you will almost never bring them down lined up with your neck.

You will get much more development of the chest with dumbbells lifted as I've said. That targets the middle of your chest creating defined square muscles.

If at Planet Fitness, I believe dumbbells go up to only 60. So, if you are doing a high volume routine like German Volume Training, you can grab fairly light weights and if you do 10x10 reps, you will get solid gains. You will also feel that workout.
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post 1627655313 01-06-2021, 10:51 AM
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Op watch the video i posted by former ifbb pro Seth F, he goes into great detail explaining angles, motions, techniques and how to maximize chest and not use other muscle groups.

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post 1627656023 01-06-2021, 10:55 AM
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post 1627656993 01-06-2021, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted By TomWanks⏩
ive never felt any variation of these machines in my chest srs
post 1627657363 01-06-2021, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted By ss367⏩
That’s because you’re using a smith machine.

Just do regular bench



If you are not getting a good pump using the smith machine, there must be something wrong with your body.
Rudy smith installed these machines around gyms worldwide that the populous at large may enjoy the benefits of safe spotter-free workouts. Millions of people throughout history have made impressive fitness gains with the help of this miraculous device.
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Is it one of the converging type (handles go closer together at the top) machines? I haven’t benched with bbs or dbs in idk how long, because I actually have gotten better results from the machine pressing. I still do incline/overhead/reverse grip pressing with dbs as secondary movements though.

Luckily the machine in my gym goes up to 240, and dbs go up to 125.
Originally Posted By Johnez⏩
Surprised nobody's mentioned Hammer Strength machines yet...
The absolute GOAT pressing exercise IMO, wish my gym had one...
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post 1627659473 01-06-2021, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted By tcatcrawler⏩
I already do that for the decline bench. But the flat and incline just aren’t the same on the smith as they are on the targeted machines
Incline Smith Machine really takes your stabilizers out of the equation, so it feels a little easier to hold, but you're also pushing in a linear direction, as opposed to an arc and not subjected to the weights moving around in your hand. My gym has one of those smith machines that moves in all directions, but I'd imagine PF's only goes up and down, and not side to side, essentially a barbell lift but on a smith machine that can move in all directions.

I would not use a smith machine for bench or incline bench. Personally for me, I do flat bench with a barbell and then dumbbell incline press. I use the targeted machines when nothing is available, or if I want to do some lighter, faster, high rep burner exercises.

Smith machine only allows you to push in the Y-Direction, which will result in wasted movement in the X-Direction. On an targeted machine, you push out and up, when on a Smith Machine you only press in one direction. Smith Machine always felt unnatural to me, and I've always considered it was for beginners who were afraid of barbell lifts and want some type of safety. Hell if a smith machine falls on you, you're fukked, but a barbell will bounce and roll off. I use the smith machine for calf raises since the distance I'm traveling isn't far, or for barbell shrugs when the squat racks are busy and the dumbbells are taken. I don't want to be a dikk shruggin in the squat rack when someone wants to squat.

This is a good article why you should avoid the bench press, unless you are MattLondon who can only lift with one arm, really avoid using a Smith Machine srs:https://www.stack.com/a/why-athletes...C%20does%20not.
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Originally Posted By Samraiwise⏩
Free weights are like sex with real women,

While....ahem, never mind.

Just, wish you good luck.

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