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post 1628437583 01-13-2021, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted By GaryCarnivals⏩
Obviously Elon is secretly "our guy" and he knows he has to be cryptic on Twitter so "they" don't fully turn on him
Elon gets away with murder, for now, because he moves the 'green needle'. Once critical mass is reached and EVs have proliferated throughout the entire industry they will turn on him.
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post 1628443573 01-13-2021, 07:33 AM
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There is a fine line and Musk wont cross it because he cant stand against the commi technocrats
post 1628444823 01-13-2021, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted By Tha
This isn't a principled stand by Musk. Musk and Zuck hate each other and have been going at each other for years. That's also why he promoted signal as an alternative to ******** owned whatsapp. He wouldn't give a crap if Zuckerberg wasn't involved
Zero facts support this.
post 1628445233 01-13-2021, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted By topperstyle⏩
Zero facts support this.
Which part? The one about Musk and Zuck hating each other, or the notion that their hate could influence their positions?
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post 1628445433 01-13-2021, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted By Tha
Which part? The one about Musk and Zuck hating each other, or the notion that their hate could influence their positions?
I’m just simply pointing out your position is all an opinion as to why someone is doing something.

You said with certainty their beef was the reason, yet musk has posted publicly about issues with tech controlling speech. It’s almost as if you’re ignoring his visible thoughts and assume ones behind closed doors.

Strange way to approach a debate.

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post 1628445933 01-13-2021, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted By topperstyle⏩
I’m just simply pointing out your position is all an opinion as to why someone is doing something.

You said with certainty their beef was the reason, yet musk has posted publicly about issues with tech controlling speech. It’s almost as if you’re ignoring his visible thoughts and assume ones behind closed doors.

Strange way to approach a debate.

Cheers,
I don't think that pointing out that Musk and Zuckerberg having been at each others' throats since 2016 is a strange way to approach a debate. It is absolutely personal, and they've been chit talking each other for 4 years now. Musk asked both SpaceX & Tesla to delete their ******** pages well before any of this started. He's been a #delete******** supporter since 2018. All of this is well documented, and started when a ******** satellite was destroyed by a SpaceX rocket in 2016. Musk has no issues with Google, youTube, TikTok, Snapchat, Twitter etc... It's personal.
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post 1628446313 01-13-2021, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted By Tha
I don't think that pointing out that Musk and Zuckerberg having been at each others' throats since 2016 is a strange way to approach a debate. It is absolutely personal, and they've been chit talking each other for 4 years now. Musk asked both SpaceX & Tesla to delete their ******** pages well before any of this started. He's been a #delete******** supporter since 2018. All of this is well documented, and started when a ******** satellite was destroyed by a SpaceX rocket in 2016. Musk has no issues with Google, youTube, TikTok, Snapchat, Twitter etc... It's personal.
You said that was the reason he is doing this.
He wouldn't give a crap if Zuckerberg wasn't involved
Your argument assumes the only reason he is doing this is because of their personal beef with zuckerberg as indicated by the direct quote above.

Musk’s tweets are contrary to this. Your argument is literally made up on your feelings.

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post 1628446623 01-13-2021, 08:05 AM
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I haven't read any of the thread, but ya'll realize that the Babylon Bee is satire right?
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post 1628447843 01-13-2021, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted By Harbinger⏩
I haven't read any of the thread, but ya'll realize that the Babylon Bee is satire right?
That's why you should read the thread. It's about Elon Musk's tweets/responses.
post 1628447943 01-13-2021, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted By Tha
Musk is most certainly not your guy. He's identified as a socialist on more than one occasion, supports UBI, supports the Paris Climate Accords, resigned from Trump business advisory council, has a kid named X Æ A-12 and is in a long term relationship with her:


Is UBI really that bad though. Isn’t the theory of UBI to get rid of all social programs and instead a flat rate UBI?
post 1628448783 01-13-2021, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted By GaryCarnivals⏩
That's why you should read the thread. It's about Elon Musk's tweets/responses.
I figured I could save myself a few minutes of "you're an idiot lib, no you're a trumptard" useless bickering by just jumping to the end of the thread.
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post 1628448903 01-13-2021, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted By Dirtymanjames⏩
Is UBI really that bad though. Isn’t the theory of UBI to get rid of all social programs and instead a flat rate UBI?
Can't really get rid of all social programs. The idea behind UBI is that it helps enough on the consumption side and improves quality of life. The money gets cycled around and boosts your economy more than it would have on the investment side, ideally.
post 1628448963 01-13-2021, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted By Dirtymanjames⏩
Is UBI really that bad though. Isn’t the theory of UBI to get rid of all social programs and instead a flat rate UBI?
UBI is a necessary inevitability BUT and this is a massive BUT.....

It needs to emerge in a form where people can only use it for intended necessities AND it cannot be used to create permanent voting slaves.

There is no chance in hell that either of these things will be true so for now UBI would amount to nothing more than "free stuff in exchange for votes".
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post 1628449923 01-13-2021, 08:46 AM
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From the first paragraph of Gab's Wikipedia page.
Yeah, I can’t trust Wiki on this. Let’s see proof of these claims.
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post 1628451763 01-13-2021, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
Can't really get rid of all social programs. The idea behind UBI is that it helps enough on the consumption side and improves quality of life. The money gets cycled around and boosts your economy more than it would have on the investment side, ideally.
You could get rid of most of them.

But then it would require people to have personal responsibility not to spend it all in the first week on iphones
post 1628452663 01-13-2021, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted By Dirtymanjames⏩
You could get rid of most of them.

But then it would require people to have personal responsibility not to spend it all in the first week on iphones
Think of the average 100 iq person. Now realize about half are dumber than that. See the issue?
post 1628453463 01-13-2021, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
Think of the average 100 iq person. Now realize about half are dumber than that. See the issue?
Probably more than half are dumber.

I know it wouldn’t work. I just wish the majority of people weren’t idiots
post 1628453953 01-13-2021, 09:30 AM
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Musk is controlled opposition.

Just lmfao if you don’t think his balding hair transplant ass isn’t owned by the secret society
post 1628454633 01-13-2021, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted By pandaboy89⏩
Musk is controlled opposition.
Musk is very pro transhumanism.

Neuralink is not a conspiracy theory, it's an open company that he's using to work on merging humans with technology.
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Originally Posted By nosirrahx⏩
UBI is a necessary inevitability BUT and this is a massive BUT.....

It needs to emerge in a form where people can only use it for intended necessities AND it cannot be used to create permanent voting slaves.

There is no chance in hell that either of these things will be true so for now UBI would amount to nothing more than "free stuff in exchange for votes".
It’s only a necessary inevitability if you have a low-skill wagecuck job like working at gamestop or being a cashier. Spend time to improve your workset quality and you won’t have to worry about this.
post 1628456673 01-13-2021, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted By ThatsRightBitch⏩
It’s only a necessary inevitability if you have a low-skill wagecuck job like working at gamestop or being a cashier. Spend time to improve your workset quality and you won’t have to worry about this.
The future wont have unlimited employment capacity for people like this. If you are paying attention to where everything is going we will reach a point where low employment will be the reality.

I made my way in the world of technology already, twice, so this isn't my problem but within 30 years many jobs simply wont exist anymore.

Personally, I believe that a society cannot consider itself civilized until it can claim the following:

People do not go hungry.
People do not go homeless.
People have unlimited access to basic education.
People have unlimited access to basic healthcare.

You can attempt to put a patchwork of programs together to cover this but it makes more sense to have a lowest level of life clearly defined and supported.

The issue right now is that the left wants to weaponize all of this in an effort to lock an entire population into perpetual voting slavery.

The only way UBI should exist is in a politics free form and it should have restrictions. For example you should not be allowed to use UBI to buy junk food, live in a luxury apartment, take endless SJW based classes or get elective surgery/get endless "happy pills".


As it stands right now the left looks to exploit UBI to attain insurmountable power and control and the right rejects it due to their hatred of giving stuff to people they feel don't deserve it.

I don't want voting to be in any way attached to UBI, I don't want it to be connected to politics at all. I want to see it as part of society where we simply do not accept people living below a certain level. I also want to see people take responsibility for rising above this level through their own actions.
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Originally Posted By nosirrahx⏩
UBI is a necessary inevitability BUT and this is a massive BUT.....

It needs to emerge in a form where people can only use it for intended necessities AND it cannot be used to create permanent voting slaves.

There is no chance in hell that either of these things will be true so for now UBI would amount to nothing more than "free stuff in exchange for votes".
In addition to this.. I am sure Musk's vision of UBI is because he figures technology will outpace our adaptation to it at some point, making it a necessity. I doubt he wants UBI passed by Biden and then for people to quit their low wage jobs now. Two very different scenarios for UBI and I can only sympathize with one.
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Originally Posted By BredRoller⏩
In addition to this.. I am sure Musk's vision of UBI is because he figures technology will outpace our adaptation to it at some point, making it a necessity. I doubt he wants UBI passed by Biden and then for people to quit their low wage jobs now. Two very different scenarios for UBI and I can only sympathize with one.
That only people that want UBI today are the ones wanting insurmountable left wing power. We eventually need it, just not with this friggin 2 party system in charge of it.
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