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post 1628583543 01-14-2021, 02:03 PM
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Is the corporate world the worst place to work? [srs]

Holy ****, I am so annoyed right now. Yeah, better than being unemployed and have no money but some things are getting quite out of hand:

brb promotions are a lot of the time based on how visible you are, how much you network and how you play your cards in things not related to your role/what you produce for the company

brb fast-tracked promotions in the USA will be now based on "protected characteristics" (supposedly those you shouldn't discriminate on)

brb top executive positions are another level of politics and hard af to get

brb new things that annoy me is how unstructured/jungle-like is everything:

-- compare professions like police, lawyer, doctor, teacher ---> vocational ---> straightforward ranks, positions, day-to-day duties,

-- now in the corporate same job/function (finance, sales, software dev, marketing) can vary depending on the company

-- using some specialised ambiguous names for simple jobs - e.g HR position for organising graduate events "Technical Organisational Lead" (WTF?!) creating a role called "Stakeholder Management"

brb recruiter/headhunter retards abuse the above and since their job-candidate matching rate is their sales bonus they will present every job as if you are changing the world
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As a guy who has worked in corporate america his whole life, I'd highly suggest being careful where you choose to work.

Money can be made but your experience depends on your employer
post 1628588063 01-14-2021, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted By Stray800
As a guy who has worked in corporate america his whole life, I'd highly suggest being careful where you choose to work.
pff

work hard and plan in your spare time where you choose to work

enjoy when u retire if u survive

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post 1628588373 01-14-2021, 02:53 PM
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literally today I quit my corporate job after 9 years and doing my own thang
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If it makes you feel better a 100 years ago a man could lose his entire lifesavings because of a bad harvest.

Or you wouldn’t get a promotion because you’re Irish or Italian.

It sucks but it could be worse.
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post 1628588833 01-14-2021, 02:58 PM
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I just hate the intangible, questionable value aspect of it all. I like to be able to see the direct result of my work and it is a lot easier to be closer to that in small business or self employment.
post 1628589373 01-14-2021, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs
brb fast-tracked promotions in the USA will be now based on "protected characteristics" (supposedly those you shouldn't discriminate on)
Protected minorities will be given priority in hiring, but white guys will always make up near the entirety of senior leadership.

At best, white guys will perform a fraction better than minorities.

Then you get Asian men who clearly perform several times better than everyone else, and literally do an entire department's worth of work, but are permanently kept at the lowest rung, and employed only when needed (ie. work needs to get done)

Protected minorities provide company culture and nothing else.

White guys provide "leadership", regardless of how good or bad they are. At best, they are a fraction more productive than the above.

Asian men do all the work.
post 1628589953 01-14-2021, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted By KBurn
Protected minorities will be given priority in hiring, but white guys will always make up near the entirety of senior leadership.

At best, white guys will perform a fraction better than minorities.

Then you get Asian men who clearly perform several times better than everyone else, and literally do an entire department's worth of work, but are permanently kept at the lowest rung, and employed only when needed (ie. work needs to get done)

Protected minorities provide company culture and nothing else.

White guys provide "leadership", regardless of how good or bad they are. At best, they are a fraction more productive than the above.

Asian men do all the work.
Chinesecels are running most companies nowadays.

You mean Asian Americans
post 1628592593 01-14-2021, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted By RhysWirral
Chinesecels are running most companies nowadays.

You mean Asian Americans
Name me 2 Chinese CEOs in charge of western companies.

When an Asian man makes a mistake that affects nothing at all, he gets screamed at and gets a formal written warning.

A white guy can do no-shows for weeks, lose the company millions, and senior management will be there to put their arm on his shoulder and chalk it up to learning experience.

Literally seen it happen on the same day. White guy suddenly took 2 weeks off to surf when client was in the middle of a listing, DGAF, so lost the company millions in fees. Directors came over and joked with him when he came back. Meanwhile, his Asian co-worker was ordered by his manager to use an older share price in a calculation, which worked out to be a couple hundred dollar difference out of hundreds of millions overall, director went from joking with the white guy, straight to him and began screaming at him in front of everyone, till he was red in the face. Literally his first "mistake" in 5 years. When he brought up that the manager specifically told him to do so, the director just got angrier and asked him if his manager asked him to jump off a cliff, would he do so. No guesses as to the race and gender of his manager.

There's what they expect from protected hires (bantz)

There's what they expect from white guys (bantz and white boys leadership club)

There's what they expect from Asian men (All the work to be done without mistakes, all the responsibilities, and none of the power)
post 1628594413 01-14-2021, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted By KBurn
Name me 2 Chinese CEOs in charge of western companies.

When an Asian man makes a mistake that affects nothing at all, he gets screamed at and gets a formal written warning.

A white guy can do no-shows for weeks, lose the company millions, and senior management will be there to put their arm on his shoulder and chalk it up to learning experience.

Literally seen it happen on the same day. White guy suddenly took 2 weeks off to surf when client was in the middle of a listing, DGAF, so lost the company millions in fees. Directors came over and joked with him when he came back. Meanwhile, his Asian co-worker was ordered by his manager to use an older share price in a calculation, which worked out to be a couple hundred dollar difference out of hundreds of millions overall, director went from joking with the white guy, straight to him and began screaming at him in front of everyone, till he was red in the face. Literally his first "mistake" in 5 years. When he brought up that the manager specifically told him to do so, the director just got angrier and asked him if his manager asked him to jump off a cliff, would he do so. No guesses as to the race and gender of his manager.

There's what they expect from protected hires (bantz)

There's what they expect from white guys (bantz and white boys leadership club)

There's what they expect from Asian men (All the work to be done without mistakes, all the responsibilities, and none of the power)
damn brah. that was brutal
post 1628595353 01-14-2021, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted By KBurn
Protected minorities will be given priority in hiring, but white guys will always make up near the entirety of senior leadership.

At best, white guys will perform a fraction better than minorities.

Then you get Asian men who clearly perform several times better than everyone else, and literally do an entire department's worth of work, but are permanently kept at the lowest rung, and employed only when needed (ie. work needs to get done)

Protected minorities provide company culture and nothing else.

White guys provide "leadership", regardless of how good or bad they are. At best, they are a fraction more productive than the above.

Asian men do all the work.
This is true and if you're black you're either the first to go or they won't lay you off at all, but you won't get promoted.
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post 1628595473 01-14-2021, 04:09 PM
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post 1628595513 01-14-2021, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted By KBurn
Name me 2 Chinese CEOs in charge of western companies.

When an Asian man makes a mistake that affects nothing at all, he gets screamed at and gets a formal written warning.

A white guy can do no-shows for weeks, lose the company millions, and senior management will be there to put their arm on his shoulder and chalk it up to learning experience.

Literally seen it happen on the same day. White guy suddenly took 2 weeks off to surf when client was in the middle of a listing, DGAF, so lost the company millions in fees. Directors came over and joked with him when he came back. Meanwhile, his Asian co-worker was ordered by his manager to use an older share price in a calculation, which worked out to be a couple hundred dollar difference out of hundreds of millions overall, director went from joking with the white guy, straight to him and began screaming at him in front of everyone, till he was red in the face. Literally his first "mistake" in 5 years. When he brought up that the manager specifically told him to do so, the director just got angrier and asked him if his manager asked him to jump off a cliff, would he do so. No guesses as to the race and gender of his manager.

There's what they expect from protected hires (bantz)

There's what they expect from white guys (bantz and white boys leadership club)

There's what they expect from Asian men (All the work to be done without mistakes, all the responsibilities, and none of the power)
That’s fair I was thinking on a global scale. Asians are ****ed because they don’t complain. In the Western World you don’t get ahead by being nice.
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Being on a retarded crew of tradies, doing some chit tier trade is just as bad.
post 1628596083 01-14-2021, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted By ramimotemem
Being on a retarded crew of tradies, doing some chit tier trade is just as bad.
We are complicated social creatures, office politics is pretty much everywhere. I hate playing the game because it gets very old quickly.

I also feel like my personality is not suited for that kind of chit srs.
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Originally Posted By ramimotemem
Being on a retarded crew of tradies, doing some chit tier trade is just as bad.
Pretty much sums it up, corporate life/tradie/law and order all is chit or good stuff depending on your team
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Originally Posted By Astra5H
We are complicated social creatures, office politics is pretty much everywhere. I hate playing the game because it gets very old quickly.

I also feel like my personality is not suited for that kind of chit srs.
Don't get me wrong, I will pick several trades over any office job 10/10. But the crew that you get can easily turn a stimulating job into a chitshow, even worse when the job itself is trash.

As for the personality, again it depends on the crew. However, office politics is always office politicsifthere is a PC HR department, a good crew can make an office job enjoyable.
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Originally Posted By RhysWirral
That’s fair I was thinking on a global scale. Asians are ****ed because they don’t complain. In the Western World you don’t get ahead by being nice.
You guys come up with all sorts of bullchit excuses why Asians are treated worse than everyone else, despite doing all the work, but the truth is racism.

I've been told in multiple reviews across different firms that I complain too much. The only response I've ever gotten is suck it up princess.

Meanwhile, some white guy pouts over some minor issue, and the entire senior leadership rushes there as if baby dropped his lollipop. Some white grad was complaining about his mouse being chit, and the very next day, balm, brand new gaming mouse that he can program macros on. He didn't even ask anyone for a mouse. I've been complaining about the mouse for years, till I got carpal tunnel, and had to bring my own mouse in.

Other bullchit, like Asians are passive, Asians are not ambitious enough, Asians don't have leadership, etc. If you work anywhere long enough, you'll find out its pure bullchit.

If you're a white guy and can't reach senior management by literally just being a warm body in the office, you're doing something seriously wrong.
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Originally Posted By KBurn
You guys come up with all sorts of bullchit excuses why Asians are treated worse than everyone else, despite doing all the work, but the truth is racism.
Brah, I agree about white on asian racism existing.

However, I would have to tell you that being passive is definitely a very consistent trait among Asian brahs who have come as Masters students and stay in the West to work. And since my point above

If a white brah goes to China would he be treated equally or a priority just because he is white? I doubt so.

Another factor is that the mentally ill liberals think that Asians are now as privileged as White because their virtue-signalling streamlining does not work otherwise.
Originally Posted By Spazzzzy
That's the game, how you gonna play?
But who are these earners? Example in a business setting? Is it simply their personality that brings in that business if they are in Sales etc?
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