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post 1629846773 01-27-2021, 11:26 AM
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Typical weak *******, wouldn’t last 5 minutes in the streets.
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post 1629846863 01-27-2021, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
There are different standards in a criminal case vs right to play in the NFL.

As to his legal criminal case he has to be proven guilty in court.

As to playing in the NFL a different standard applies. You don’t have a constitutional right to play. They can and should cut them for the arrest alone.

And it’s not just her allegations only. The police came and witnessed her injuries and the situation dynamics with the guy there. So it’s not just only her word.
I can already tell I’m speaking to someone who watches too much judge Judy and has no idea what they are talking about.

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Originally Posted By Redfish225
Typical weak *******, wouldn’t last 5 minutes in the streets.
Would you be the one to beat him up in those 5 minutes?
post 1629847023 01-27-2021, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
Not saying he should automatically be found guilty in criminal court. That is a high standard and up to the court legal process.

But there is proof of injuries and witnesses of the events. You’re claiming zero proof which is false. It may or may not be enough to convict but it’s not zero proof.

And whether he will be found guilty in criminal court is separate from how his conduct should be judged in the context of his career. Even the arrest by itself under these circumstances should be enough to drop him.
When did I claim zero proof?

You want someone to be punished in regards to their livelihood based on an arrest? Do you understand the implications of that?
post 1629847103 01-27-2021, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
With DV there is a big risk they will do it again though. It’s dangerous for the victim that he can come back and retaliate. But idk if DV suspects are generally let out on bail.
Domestic Violence arrestees are generally held in jail for 12 to 24 hours (giving time for the victim to move or seek refuge somewhere else).

To give scope on how badly the judge fukked that guy. I went to a bonds man a couple of years ago to bail out a family member who was arrested for DV. He was held for 12 hours. I had to pay $600 cash to the bondsman to get him out. Which was 12% of his $5000 bail. So yeah, it should only cost around $600 cash to get someone out of jail for a misdemeanor domestic violence charge.

In this case they bumped it up to a felony (not sure why, probably because of media attention). But they are going to need a lot more evidence to get a felony conviction. Dude will most likely take a plea for a misdemeanor DV charge or maybe he'll sweet talk her and the entire thing gets dropped.




I know that picture looks bad but he didn't really rough her up that bad. I'm guessing its a bit of blood from a slap to her nose. Lips look fine. No teeth missing. No swollen/blackened eyes. No pictures of her neck to indicate he tried to strangle her. Etc. He's a big guy. One punch with a closed fist and she'd have looked far worse then that.


Not trying to defend him or say he doesn't deserve jail time. But it doesn't look to me like he was trying to deliver a beating that would seriously hurt or kill her. Again, it doesn't even look like he punched her with a closed fist.
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Originally Posted By DDSF1
When did I claim zero proof?

You want someone to be punished in regards to their livelihood based on an arrest? Do you understand the implications of that?
Conduct detrimental to the team
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Originally Posted By Redfish225
Typical weak *******, wouldn’t last 5 minutes in the streets.
lol exactly Jdawg is a weak *******
post 1629847383 01-27-2021, 11:31 AM
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Yea every race has bad apples, but blacks just have more. These type of crimes are more commonly commited by black men
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Originally Posted By Jaydawg08
Conduct detrimental to the team
Just because of an arrest? Do you understand the implications of that? People being punished in society, including their livelihood, because of an arrest?
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gaydawg strikes again with another race bait thread after hilariously saying, “I’m not obsessed with race like the misc.”.

He should work for Shaun King.
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post 1629847633 01-27-2021, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted By DDSF1
Just because of an arrest? Do you understand the implications of that? People being punished in society, including their livelihood, because of an arrest?
Greg Hardy was deactivated, placed on the exempt list, and suspended for the exact same chit while legal proceedings took place.. and he was 10x the player that this guy is. Greg Hardy got his charges expunged from his record and STILL got a 4 game suspension because of everything that happened
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
You quoted the Diesel guy saying “zero proof” and you said “this.”

Yes he should be dropped by the NFL. Athletes should be held to a very high standard of conduct. Much higher standard than just whether there is a criminal conviction. This is about the reputation of the Seahawks and NFL in general as well.
NFL players with Domestic Violence are common. He will only get released if he isn't a good player on the field.
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
You quoted the Diesel guy saying “zero proof” and you said “this.”

Yes he should be dropped by the NFL. Athletes should be held to a very high standard of conduct. Much higher standard than just whether there is a criminal conviction. This is about the reputation of the Seahawks and NFL in general as well.
zero proof of criminal guilt until investigated. we don't know the events that took place surrounding her receiving the injuries. There is obvious proof of her injuries.

Again, I don't think you understand how disturbing that sort of reaction is--people getting fired from their jobs because they are arrested. That is not some light issue. You want people fired and disgraced immediately after being arrested. That is a dangerous societal and cultural norm. The NFL and the Seahawks, like everyone in America, should wait for an investigation and criminal proceedings.

Seriously, stand back for a moment and think about what you are saying. People getting punished for being arrested. That makes getting someone arrested a dangerous weapon that can be manipulated.
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Originally Posted By Redfish225
Typical weak *******, wouldn’t last 5 minutes in the streets.
6’7” offensive lineman with anger issues wouldn’t last in the streets lol


Not sure why everyone always takes the bait on these threads
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imagine flipping out like that over a 5/10, or any broad for that matter, some dudes really got emotions of a woman but then again the guy looks like he's rockin a sub 70 IQ at best
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Originally Posted By Jaydawg08
Greg Hardy was deactivated, placed on the exempt list, and suspended for the exact same chit while legal proceedings took place.. and he was 10x the player that this guy is. Greg Hardy got his charges expunged from his record and STILL got a 4 game suspension because of everything that happened
And? ok that happened. What you and ss are saying is that it is ok to be punished for being arrested. I am saying that is insane and has very serious ramifications if it becomes a societal and cultural norm. Arguably it already is, but it shouldn't. Getting arrested must never be equated with being guilty or be seen as a green light to destroy someone in society. There is a reason for a legal process it is fundamental for a functioning society.
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imagine being a pro athlete and having to settle to smash that, lol.
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
I think they’re saying he is a free agent anyway? Idk how that works. But this should be condemned in some way. Just based on the arrest circumstances alone, without waiting for a criminal conviction. The league standard of conduct should be very high.
After beating up your girlfriend, you become a free agent by default. I hope is next team (girlfriend) has a better defense.
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Although its common knowledge I just wanted to post that this OP really is a *******.
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imagine being a pro athlete and having to settle to smash that, lol.
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I just read further that part of why he did it is because he didn't take his bi-polar medications.

Not excusing him but at least it makes more sense.
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
I read that too but it’s BS. This is not about mood swings. This conduct goes way beyond that.
How is that BS? If he has been diagnosed with bipolar and has medication for it....there's a reason for it.
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