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post 1630069763 01-29-2021, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted By Jaydawg08⏩
Interesting video. I liked hearing everyone viewpoint. I'll throw mine in.

Reparations should be given to people who were affected by Jim Crow era laws or during the Civil Rights movement. This is basically your parents, and grandparents.


/argument
Tell this shyt to the white kids growing up in trailers and apartments across the country. Not all white people benefited off of slave land.. pieces of ignorant shyt like you need their faces smashed in.
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Originally Posted By whogotmuhbeers⏩
Tell this shyt to the white kids growing up in trailers and apartments across the country. Not all white people benefited off of slave land.. pieces of ignorant shyt like you need their faces smashed in.
He refuses to acknowledge any view other than his own. It's also an ignorant view of poorly veiled retribution and anger. The same anger that was played to to gain power while keeping the black community in check. Dems could turn each and everyone of these cities around in a matter of a couple years but they refuse to. There is only power to have.

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How would OP feel knowing tons of white people would get reparations due to years of interbreeding?
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
Naive? The irony is so far behind you that it should be frightening to how blind to it you are.

Again. Feelings.

Again. What others think about. More feelings.

You're mindset is circular and fueled by anger. Common sense and basic understanding of human nature would be a good start and to actually BELIEVE in something instead of raging against who you've chosen as opponents. You and that "racist" probably have more in common than youd ever know as opposed to some faux idea that has gotten the community whom we both care about deeply somewhere.

I'm making change from the best mechanism available. I suggest you do the same and examine the hate in your heart. Your passion could go a long way in getting things accomplished.
Ironic that you continue to bash people on the other side (ie Democrats) and say things like "examine the hate in your heart" and "I'm making change from the best mechanism available".. The hypocrisy is pretty crazy from yourself and nearly everyone on this board, it REEKS of it. Also hilarious half this board thinks that Dems are the "boogieman" while also trying to tout some version of unity. Just admit you're a hypocrite already, I'd have much more respect for you if you did
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You’re not black. Like 0% black.
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Originally Posted By Jaydawg08⏩
Interesting video. I liked hearing everyone viewpoint. I'll throw mine in.

Reparations should be given to people who were affected by Jim Crow era laws or during the Civil Rights movement. This is basically your parents, and grandparents.



My ancestors did more for this country than yours. Run me my $$ old man

/argument
ya lol no they didnt... but okay...
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Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
ya lol no they didnt... but okay...
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Please leave the American ideas and topics to actual Americans and STFU
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Originally Posted By Jaydawg08⏩
Location: Canada


Please leave the American ideas and topics to actual Americans and STFU
sure, youre still completely wrong htough.


however i dont give enough of a fuk to argue with you about it so carry on hombre.
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Originally Posted By Jaydawg08⏩
Because the government has put black America at a starting point in life that is further behind than white America because the color of our skin. You think that after 1968 that racism in America was gone? That blacks and whites were suddenly now equal?

Your parents generation were directly affected, thus YOUR generation was directly affected by racism and laws governed by this country
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Originally Posted By memcop⏩
Naive? The irony is so far behind you that it should be frightening to how blind to it you are.

Again. Feelings.

Again. What others think about. More feelings.

You're mindset is circular and fueled by anger. Common sense and basic understanding of human nature would be a good start and to actually BELIEVE in something instead of raging against who you've chosen as opponents. You and that "racist" probably have more in common than youd ever know as opposed to some faux idea that has gotten the community whom we both care about deeply somewhere.

I'm making change from the best mechanism available. I suggest you do the same and examine the hate in your heart. Your passion could go a long way in getting things accomplished.
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Originally Posted By Mountaineer92⏩
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
Yep, it's another stupid term. They generally work hard, value education, extremely low single mother rate, etc. and the people who throw around that "model minority" crap try to twist that into being/imply that it's a bad thing.
The asian community is literally the exact opposite of the african american community in general. Obviously I don't like to generalize but there is a reason asians are not using the victim model despite the fact that they too had to deal with murder and slavery in the 1900s, the gold rush, railroad construction etc.
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Originally Posted By Jaydawg08⏩
Oh no!! a random online internet person doesn't believe I'm black!! What am I gonna do!!!!
Prove it Jose.

Get a 23 and Me or something and shut it down. If you are more than 40% african american I think everyone would mostly drop it
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Originally Posted By ChrisLS8⏩
Prove it Jose.

Get a 23 and Me or something and shut it down. If you are more than 40% african american I think everyone would mostly drop it
Y'all are internet dweebs. Why TF do I care one way or another what you, or anyone on this forum thinks
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
I don't see reparations as a realistic thing. I think of it as a buzzword used to garner attention or votes.

Any type of reparations would either be seen as not enough for some, or too costly overall. What the government could do (but won't) is disincentivize single parenthood. Technically that would help everyone, but since it hits us the hardest, we'd see the biggest impact.
I agree.

IMO the best way todisincentivize single parenthoodwouldn't only target blacks. There is a lot of evidence that single parenthood is worse for children, and particularly for boys.

The largest part of many social safety net programs are for the benefit of children and you can't provide for impoverished children without also providing for the parent(s), but the way our programs are structured now there is a real benefit to being a single parent vs. married parents.

If we scrapped the present programs for a UBI, or Patriot Dividend, then there would no longer be a single parent bonus. Every adult and child gets the same $ amount. Maybe $250 weekly for adults, and $100 weekly for minors?

This would also eliminate the benefit cliffs that discourage people from working because the value they lose in benefits is more than the money they gain in earnings.

Another big problem that seems to be worse in minority communities is gang violence fueled largely by competition over the sale of illegal drugs.

Get the drugs off the street and into legal dispensaries.Hell I would damn near give the stuff away for free to any fool who wants to burn their lives down rather than subject everyone else to the collateral damage of the addiction and the violence stemming from its satisfaction. The one stipulation I would want in place for hard drugs though is that every time someone buys they have to be offered treatment and acknowledge that the are refusing it. It should be a real offer too; fund it with some of the saving on law enforcement.

I truly believe that the majority of quotas, scholarships, etc. should be for people that are economically disadvantage or disabled- not based on race or ethnicity.

The one exception is housing and urban development. Beginning in the 1930s banks redlined black neighborhoods and that has had a lasting impact on individual families as a house is the largest asset for most people.That surely reduced the wealth of the black community overall and in a multi-generational manner. I believe the practice became officially illegal in 1968, but there are many sources that claim it has continued in some areas up to the present day.

I would go for a one time first time buyer program for black Americans of a limited duration- 30 years maybe? The program would grant these buyers the 20% down payment for the purchase of a home to be owner occupied up to $80K. If the home is sold within five years of purchase the grant would have to be repaid on a pro-rated bases, but after 5 years no repayment would be required.

And I would hit up the banks to fund the largest part of the program.

Not exactly reparations, but some things I think could benefit the community.
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Originally Posted By Jaydawg08⏩
Y'all are internet dweebs. Why TF do I care one way or another what you, or anyone on this forum thinks
You say you don't care, but you screech like you do.

Anyways, why not just make reparations be a free STEM education at a state school for anyone who is at least 50% black, kept at least a 3.2 GPA in high school, and is at least third gen American. Make that reparations and see how many people will try to claim the benefit.
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Tips for blacks - stop complaining about what you think you deserve becausedeserveis completely irrelevant to any negotiation. That's how women negotiate in business and why they are so fukkin bad at it.

Absolutely nothing in the world gets handed out based on objective fairness or some judgment of rightness. You can work 100 hours/week for your boss until you have a mental breakdown. He won't care one iota. There are 40 million slaves in the world, as in today, and 0 people give a fukk. Most will die in chains and be quickly forgotten. Why would anyone care about the echoes of slavery from hundreds of years ago when we can't even bring ourselves to stop buying cheap consumer goods made by child slaves now?

The only variable that matters is leverage. BLM is scary close to figuring this out. There are 2 primary ways to get something you want from a privileged class; threat of violence or economic destruction. Those are the only levers you have to pull. If you can convince the ELITE that it will be cheaper and safer to pay reparations than lose their money and be lynched in the streets (irony alert!), then you can have a real negotiation.

/red pill
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken⏩
Tips for blacks - stop complaining about what you think you deserve becausedeserveis completely irrelevant to any negotiation. That's how women negotiate in business and why they are so fukkin bad at it.

Absolutely nothing in the world gets handed out based on objective fairness or some judgment of rightness. You can work 100 hours/week for your boss until you have a mental breakdown. He won't care one iota. There are 40 million slaves in the world, as in today, and 0 people give a fukk. Most will die in chains and be quickly forgotten. Why would anyone care about the echoes of slavery from hundreds of years ago when we can't even bring ourselves to stop buying cheap consumer goods made by child slaves now?

The only variable that matters is leverage. BLM is scary close to figuring this out. There are 2 primary ways to get something you want from a privileged class; threat of violence or economic destruction. Those are the only levers you have to pull. If you can convince the ELITE that it will be cheaper and safer to pay reparations than lose their money and be lynched in the streets (irony alert!), then you can have a real negotiation.

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Originally Posted By Jaydawg08⏩
Because the government has put black America at a starting point in life that is further behind than white America because the color of our skin. You think that after 1968 that racism in America was gone? That blacks and whites were suddenly now equal?

Your parents generation were directly affected, thus YOUR generation was directly affected by racism and laws governed by this country
'Color of our skin' lol.

You ain't black.

I always fine it funny how people like you, who aren't black, so desperately want to be black.

It is as crazy a mental disorder as being a TG.
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Originally Posted By OptimistPrime11⏩
'Color of our skin' lol.

You ain't black.

I always fine it funny how people like you, who aren't black, so desperately want to be black.

It is as crazy a mental disorder as being a TG.
You aint anyone.

I always find it funny how people like you, who don't know me, so desperately want me to not be black

It is as crazy a mental disorder as being a cult member
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Originally Posted By Jaydawg08⏩
Ironic that you continue to bash people on the other side (ie Democrats) and say things like "examine the hate in your heart" and "I'm making change from the best mechanism available".. The hypocrisy is pretty crazy from yourself and nearly everyone on this board, it REEKS of it. Also hilarious half this board thinks that Dems are the "boogieman" while also trying to tout some version of unity. Just admit you're a hypocrite already, I'd have much more respect for you if you did



I have no idea who you are. You are a bug. Hopefully this doesn't hurt you delicate feelings
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Originally Posted By dontstopbelief⏩
They think white people can save black people and fix everything, it's the ultimate form of racism whilst trying to appear virtuous.

You ensure everyone has the same opportunities, at that point it's upto black folk to take control of their own futures.
As the woman said in the video at ~1:25 timestamp, gotta move away from equality because it will lead to "unequitable" outcomes for black people.

This has been programmed into the youth. Can't win on a level playing field because of engrained inferiority, but only because of an external bogeyman. Disgusting
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
I don't see reparations as a realistic thing. I think of it as a buzzword used to garner attention or votes.

Any type of reparations would either be seen as not enough for some, or too costly overall. What the government could do (but won't) is disincentivize single parenthood. Technically that would help everyone, but since it hits us the hardest, we'd see the biggest impact.
How would eliminating single parenthood do anything to help the black and brown people suffering the largest inequities, that being those within the trans, queer, and nonbinary communities? Focusing on the patriarchal idea of the father figure to magically swoop in and solve everyone's problems is an embedded form of white supremacy and you are a ****ing racist.
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Originally Posted By Jaydawg08⏩
You aint anyone.

I always find it funny how people like you, who don't know me, so desperately want me to not be black

It is as crazy a mental disorder as being a cult member
But you ain't black. Will never be black. The fact you insist on calling yourself black is bizarre.

I can call myself white. Why? Because all of my ancestors were white! See how that works.

You are Mexican/Southwest Indian. Deal with it. Trey songz you are not.

As far as your family doing more for this country then mine or anyone else's? Ok I'll play.

My great grandfather on my fathers side was a mayor of a large city in Ohio for 20 years. My grandfather on my dads side was the President of the Chamber of Commerce for a large city in Ohio for 15 years.
My dad was a school superintendent for 20 years in MI.

On my mothers side, my grandfather was a WWII officer His family before him founded and started a city in Michigan. The high school is named after my moms maiden name as a result. 3 roads in the city are named after that side of the family. My grandfather also started and ran the largest hardware company in MI with the first one being in that town.

So....that is just for starters. I can go on.

Please, share with us all of the great things your family has done for this country.
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken⏩
Tips for blacks - stop complaining about what you think you deserve becausedeserveis completely irrelevant to any negotiation. That's how women negotiate in business and why they are so fukkin bad at it.

Absolutely nothing in the world gets handed out based on objective fairness or some judgment of rightness. You can work 100 hours/week for your boss until you have a mental breakdown. He won't care one iota. There are 40 million slaves in the world, as in today, and 0 people give a fukk. Most will die in chains and be quickly forgotten. Why would anyone care about the echoes of slavery from hundreds of years ago when we can't even bring ourselves to stop buying cheap consumer goods made by child slaves now?

The only variable that matters is leverage. BLM is scary close to figuring this out. There are 2 primary ways to get something you want from a privileged class; threat of violence or economic destruction. Those are the only levers you have to pull. If you can convince the ELITE that it will be cheaper and safer to pay reparations than lose their money and be lynched in the streets (irony alert!), then you can have a real negotiation.

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Originally Posted By hackerwacker⏩
The fact you call them model minorities like it's a pejorative says everything about your mindset and that of American blacks. Asians throw a huge wrench into your victim narrative and you resent tf out of them.

Whats so wrong with being a model citizen in the greatest civilization man has ever built? Maybe if blacks took a couple notes a lot of their problems would dissappear
Model Minority was used back in the day to tell other minority groups mainly Blacks "If they can do it why can't you!" and was a term used by White Americans to not only dismiss the notions of racism in society by pitting other minorities against one another.

At some point in time a minority group in this country has experienced racism and I think minorities as a whole do realize that their position in American society is temporary and at the whim of white sentiment.


Memcop and I talked about how the American government actually ****ed African Descendants of Slavery over..mainly with Lyndon B Johnson's War On Poverty that affected our economic means.

I don't fall into the victim narrative and IRL people know I'm a capitalist and probably lean more fiscally conservative on things. I think Blacks should focus on group economics and realize that no one is out to save them even well intended white leftists (even they have their own agenda).

I still keep the foot on the neck of White people who want to dismiss racism or the fact that being white in this society has benefitted them for generations up to this day.
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My wife is Asian. Asians were used as slaves in this country.

I guess she is due some $$$$.
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Originally Posted By OptimistPrime11⏩
My wife is Asian. Asians were used as slaves in this country.

I guess she is due some $$$$.
LOL if she were Japanese she probably did get money srs. Japanese Interment Reparations was in the millions of dollars.
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01⏩
The Filipinos are actually called the mexicans of Asia

I guess people will just have to slum it like the rest of us and bootstraps and all that etc
Maybe it's different in the East coast b/c many of my Filipino friends had family that came here during WW2 and they moved on the eastern seaboard mainly Virginia.

I've been told on several occasions by many of them that they are considered the Blacks of Asia. I could understand Mexicans of Asian tho b/c in Latin America being Mexican is frowned upon for some reason.
A hit was sent, from the President, to raid your residence /
Because you had secret evidence, and documents /
On how they raped the continents, and it's the prominent /
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Originally Posted By GordonXXX⏩
Black culture is unfortunately a culture of crime, drugs, violence, misogyny, lack of value for education, unwed mothers, lack of father figures, and victim-mentality.
..to bigoted people.
Originally Posted By GuineaDago585⏩
Donald Trump’s Platinum Plan was probably the closest thing to reparations ever seriously proposed by a presidential candidate and also was the absolute best plan for uplifting the black community, as it provided for extensive business investment, focused on giving communities dignity rather than handing out random cash payments to individuals.I wish I could’ve seen it implemented.
Just like the wall, paid for by Mexico?
And Covid-19?
And ISIS?
And the Economy?
Originally Posted By Belome⏩
If you are poor in America it’s your own fault

Not to parrot Little Benny, but studies show all
You have to do to be successful in America is

Graduate High school
Get a job
Don’t have kids early

These issues plague the black communities the most, but it’s not an oppression issue.

There is zero reason for first generation immigrants from third world countries to be more successful than American Blacks.

Want to find the problem? All you need is a mirror. That’s who controls your destiny, nobody is holding anybody back in 2021.

In fact, the opposite is overwhelmingly true, but all that extra help creates dependence, not strength.
This is both

>Not true
>Not relevant to the topic
Originally Posted By JT11RTR⏩
Find a slave still alive from 1860 and I'll gladly give them some money.
Reparations isn't about individuals; it's about a system that has disenfranchised black people for centuries.
Originally Posted By entropy91⏩
Asian Americans are absolutely killing it in America. Keep complaining about the racist boogeyman tho.

Zomg that woman called the cops on an innocent black man I CAN NEVER BE SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE OF THIS
Please make another thread if you wish to discuss Asian Americans.

This one is aboutAfricanAmericans.
Originally Posted By homers54321⏩
instead of reparations, incentivize going to school, being employed, and not smashing and dashing
If you watched the video, a large portion of them suggested educational reprieves for reparations instead of cash.
Originally Posted By homersexual⏩
Subsidized rent and utilities
Free/subsidized phone, cable, internet
Subsidized auto insurance and registration and ID
Free school lunch
Subsidized college tuition
Ethnic specific scholarships/grants
Favorable college admissions
Favorable hiring quotas and promotions
Business grants


I guess that's not enough.

And then what about the Italians, Irish, Chinese, Mexicans,etc...
They weren't chattel slaves.
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