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post 1630167483 01-31-2021, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted By lightsarefallin
Agreed. Divorce settlements always come across as unfair bullschit.
This. You want to cheat on your man while he’s kept captive by military forces? Fine, your decision whore.

But fuk that judge who thought she deserved a nickel
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post 1630167733 01-31-2021, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted By Fuqdatass
But fuk that judge who thought she deserved a nickel
If anything, the judge should not grant the divorce and penalize her 20% of her income.
post 1630168093 01-31-2021, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted By Fuqdatass
This. You want to cheat on your man while he’s kept captive by military forces? Fine, your decision whore.

But fuk that judge who thought she deserved a nickel
Disagreed hard. I know misc likes to jump on the sloot gonna sloot bandwagon but

He was a POW, they had no idea if he was dead or alive and years were passing. You expect them to just keep waiting indefinitely or move on with their lives?

Every single one of you would have moved on as well. Don't be hypocrites.
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post 1630168133 01-31-2021, 06:43 AM
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It’s def brutal that she cheated while he was tortured, soooo much worse that she gets nearly half of his money for nothing. Hopefully at least the oldest daughter gave her living hell for it.
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post 1630168303 01-31-2021, 06:47 AM
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devils advocate ....

- children

- he was probably dead

- money


she was probably looking out for the best interest of her children, and looking for another husband/wallet (not just slooting around).

back then, social security was very little so marriage, especially for a woman, was very important. add a number of children to that and i can see her reasoning.
post 1630168443 01-31-2021, 06:50 AM
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Her moving on isn't surprising, but taking $$ from his service afterwards is ****ed.
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Originally Posted By ****inator
Islam is right about women
100%

Ancient peoples had certain basic wisdoms. Women are a commodity. None will love you like your mother or daughter.

The amount of women who can stay dedicated to a military spouse is tiny. Society doesnt even try to produce those values in women anymore so its even more rare.

The biggest issue with this is surrendering his pay to her. She earned none of it and when she stepped out of the marriage forfeited her right to his protection and provisions.

This would probably stop if women were givennothingupon divorce.
post 1630169733 01-31-2021, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted By GordonXXX
Chris Clark • 8 years ago

Thank you everyone for your wonderful comments. I am Col. Stirm's oldest grandchild (30 years old), and his oldest child Lorrie's oldest son.

To those that had expressed a desire to return a bracelet to Col. Stirm, or for any other information, please feel free to email me.

To those that touched on his first wife's (and my grandmother) "infidelity", I think everyone should know that his children and their mother did not know the status of their father/husband. He was a POW for 6 years, and for 6 long years his 4 children grew up being told by the military that they had no idea where their father was or if he was alive. They were never told that he was being held as a POW, or if he would ever return, or he was even alive or dead. The same went for his wife, who had struggled as a homemaker who had never paid bills or managed family matters until her husband left for Vietnam. After several years of heartache and struggle, life played it's course and a new relationship developed for Loretta. The "Dear John" letter was written so that Loretta could come to terms that her husband was not coming back and that life was moving on, she wrote it expecting him to never see it, as she heartbreakingly believed she would never see him again. Upon his return, she broke off her relationship and attempted to salvage her broken family now that all of the pieces had physically been put back together. Unfortunately, the marriage would not survive, and both remarried (Col. Stirm divorced in the last 10 years, and Loretta passed away from Cancer in 2010, still married to the same man she had met while Col. Stirm was a POW). This is an extremely sensitive family matter, and I beg all who choose to comment publicly, to please refrain from passing judgement on either person with regards to the relationship between Col. Robert Stirm & Loretta. Thank you.

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Her grandchild makes it sound like ONE man where the article makes it clear it was THREE marriage proposals and who knows how many men or how long she waited. I mean, fair enough, the grandchild had conflicted loyalties, but doesn’t mean he isnt dancing around what actually happened
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post 1630169813 01-31-2021, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted By smashedurgfx10
a wild ******* who doesn't know what paedo means
Tell that one to the judge
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post 1630171303 01-31-2021, 08:11 AM
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I agree with those saying that her moving on in this case is understandable. Dude was a POW for 5 years and she had a couple kids to look out for. Did they know if he was a POW rather than KIA? If they didn't, you can't really blame her. I'm sure it was tough as a single mom to raise kids back then. Very few women would simply never remarry.

The alimony ruling is completely fukked though. Circumstances aside, why was she even entitled to it if she had a new husband? And 43% sounds high af.

I feel for this guy. Lost his wife, kids, money, and was probably left with some terrible PTSD/psychological trauma. I wonder how well most POWs fared upon returning to the States.
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Originally Posted By Coal
Disagreed hard. I know misc likes to jump on the sloot gonna sloot bandwagon but

He was a POW, they had no idea if he was dead or alive and years were passing. You expect them to just keep waiting indefinitely or move on with their lives?

Every single one of you would have moved on as well. Don't be hypocrites.
Honestly speaking, if I was a prisoner of war for 5 years and my wife and family didn't know if I was alive or not, I wouldn't shame my wife for having moved on. It must be a harrowing existence to live in this constant state of limbo, not knowing if your husband will ever return. It's a schit situation but I wouldn't blame my wife. At least I don't think. It's like in the movie castaway.
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Originally Posted By littlecaesars59
really? as soon as she learned he was coming back?

and the courts still gave her money? wtf is wrong with these cuck rulings?
She probably would have written the letter a long time ago but it's not like the postal service delivered to the Hanoi Hilton.
post 1630173013 01-31-2021, 08:50 AM
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Too bad cryogenic freezing isnt viable. A service man could just freeze his wife and thaw her out once he gets home
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Good for her! Life's too short to wait for someone being tortured. Women have got to stop apologizing for when their needs aren't being met.

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post 1630173193 01-31-2021, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted By Fuqdatass
Lol at you choosing to reply only to the girl

*******
Fukk you *******.

How could I have "only" chosen to reply to the girl, when I'd literally made a reply in the threadbeforethat.
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post 1630173283 01-31-2021, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted By lightsarefallin
POW for 5 years. Can't say I'm surprised. I think the wife that will wait until the end of times for her man to return from war is a fantasy. Unless you can use your cortex a bit more fully and curb your evolutionary/biological urges, most women will give in to said urges.
That is the reality of human nature.

I wouldn't be surprised if a dude did the same for a missing wife.

If someone has a sex drive, and desire for companionship, then expecting them to wait indefinitely for a possibly return (at the time, the military had officially no idea where he was) IMO is unreasonable.


Who wants be celibate and without companionship for the rest of their life? Look at what it does to people's mental health... Look at the phuckin incel community!
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post 1630173503 01-31-2021, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted By Coal
Disagreed hard. I know misc likes to jump on the sloot gonna sloot bandwagon but

He was a POW, they had no idea if he was dead or alive and years were passing. You expect them to just keep waiting indefinitely or move on with their lives?

Every single one of you would have moved on as well. Don't be hypocrites.
How long do you wait before you give up that he's dead though? At least 2 years you hold on hope he's alive.

Then even if you accept he's dead after 2 years time has passed, how long do you wait before you "move on"? You just move on at the drop of a hat like that? That's still cold as sh*t even if you don't consider it wrong at that point. It would take any normal person who actually cared at least 3 years after the acceptance of death before even wanting to move on I would think.

Look at it this way, if you own a dog and it dies how long do you wait before getting a new one? There's 2 groups of people when this happens. Ones who immediately go out and get a new dog because they can't bear to not have one (aka I'm a selfish c*nt who just needs to have companionship non-stop no matter who or what it is) and the ones who wait at least a couple years to mourn the dog they loved before starting new.

And that's with a dog. Now how long do you think group 2 would need to mourn the death of a husband? Group 1, the move on immediately group, was only ever in the relationship for themselves. Even if it's not wrong to do it still tells you a lot about them as a person.

Basic psychology here which some of you disregard as useless.



By the way, if she only moved on because she thought he was dead then why didn't she make the effort to get back with him once learning he was alive? Surely she still loved him if death is what cause the separation and decision to move on. Getting that back would be hard to ignore if it was real. Truth is it wasn't
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post 1630173823 01-31-2021, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1
How long do you wait before you give up that he's dead though? At least 2 years you hold on hope he's alive.

Then even if you accept he's dead after 2 years time has passed, how long do you wait before you "move on"? You just move on at the drop of a hat like that? That's still cold as sh*t even if you don't consider it wrong at that point. It would take any normal person who actually cared at least 3 years after the acceptance of death before even wanting to move on I would think..
She waited 6 years. Did you read the update from the Smithsonian posted ITT?

https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...post1630165823

For the record: I believe that the 43% alimony is a disgrace.
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post 1630173843 01-31-2021, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted By Coal
Disagreed hard. I know misc likes to jump on the sloot gonna sloot bandwagon but

He was a POW, they had no idea if he was dead or alive and years were passing. You expect them to just keep waiting indefinitely or move on with their lives?

Every single one of you would have moved on as well. Don't be hypocrites.
How do you know she wasn’t aweir he was in captivity?

I maybe wrong in this case, but the NVA regularly used parade their POWS as propaganda.

The IS government knew about the vast majority of POWs
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post 1630173973 01-31-2021, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted By BootneckBrah
How do you know she wasn’t aweir he was in captivity?

I maybe wrong in this case, but the NVA regularly used parade their POWS as propaganda.

The IS government knew about the vast majority of POWs
According to this, she didn't...

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Originally Posted By Coal
Disagreed hard. I know misc likes to jump on the sloot gonna sloot bandwagon but

He was a POW, they had no idea if he was dead or alive and years were passing. You expect them to just keep waiting indefinitely or move on with their lives?

Every single one of you would have moved on as well. Don't be hypocrites.
I agree with this. Not sure i can blame her. They prob thought he was dead

But he still shouldnt have had to pay 43% of his retirement pay
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck
She waited 6 years. Did you read the update from the Smithsonian posted ITT?

https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...post1630165823

For the record: I believe that the 43% alimony is a disgrace.
First off she didn't wait 6 years. She had 3 marriage proposals by the time of his release, which means she didn't give up in year 5 and have a marriage proposal 1 month before his release.

Secondly, did you not read the timeline I posted above? A normal person doesn't give up they're dead for at least 2 years. After acceptance of death, a normal person who cared takes at least 2-3 years AFTER those first 2 years of denial to grieve.

5 years isn't that far fetched to wait in this scenario if you have any semblance of character.



Those of you who move on after someone dies a week later aren't "wrong", you're just a selfish c*nt. Plain and simple.
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1
First off she didn't wait 6 years. She had 3 marriage proposals by the time of his release, which was 6 years.
We don't know what year those marriage proposal took place on the timeline.
Secondly, did you not read the timeline I posted above? A normal person doesn't give up they're dead for at least 2 years. After acceptance of death, a normal person who cared takes at least 2-3 years AFTER those first 2 years of denial to grieve.
What are you basing that psychological timeline on?
5 years isn't that far fetched to wait in this scenario if you have any semblance of character.
The military tell you that your wife is missing, and they have no idea if they are dead or alive, IMO most people would not hold out indefinitely for a return. I wouldn't blame you for beginning to move on, especially if you are a single parent.
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1
Those of you who move on after someone dies a week later aren't "wrong", you're just a selfish c*nt. Plain and simple.
Strawman.

The dude was missing for almost 6 years, and the military told her they have no idea if he's dead or alive.
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Ok, difficult one then.
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1
How long do you wait before you give up that he's dead though? At least 2 years you hold on hope he's alive.

Then even if you accept he's dead after 2 years time has passed, how long do you wait before you "move on"? You just move on at the drop of a hat like that? That's still cold as sh*t even if you don't consider it wrong at that point. It would take any normal person who actually cared at least 3 years after the acceptance of death before even wanting to move on I would think
Stopped reading here because your low IQ take was hurting my brain. This was not some rich Karen living in a privileged 2020 sipping mojitos and maxing out her credit card buying bougie lingerie.

This was a very long time ago, in a time of war, with a family full of kids to provide for. I'd expect the mindset to be a little different from today sir. Spouses went to war and there was a very real consideration that they may not come back alive.

You need to put your mind in the context of when this all took place, I know it's hard coming from a position of privilege.
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Originally Posted By samsbolton
Her grandchild makes it sound like ONE man where the article makes it clear it was THREE marriage proposals and who knows how many men or how long she waited. I mean, fair enough, the grandchild had conflicted loyalties, but doesn’t mean he isnt dancing around what actually happened
like that matters if they thought he was dead
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post 1630175703 01-31-2021, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted By thigoonar
Fukk you *******.

How could I have "only" chosen to reply to the girl, when I'd literally made a reply in the threadbeforethat.
First off, you’re a ******* white knight.

Bigger picture I’m impressed how many of you are excellent cucks agreeing she should had screwed other dudes while he was a POW.

The 43% of his retirement might not be enough. You cucks should give her money for her suffering being alone all those years.
I don’t want a large farva, I want a goddamn liter of cola

Send In The Clowns
post 1630176123 01-31-2021, 09:36 AM
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Fukin lol at the americuck court system regarding alimony. If you are male and divorce, might as well LDAR.

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