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Thread: How come your real-life strength remains the same after hitting the gym?

post 1631796263 02-19-2021, 07:23 AM
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It totally does. I can feel how much easier hiking up a steep mountain is.

A lot of times, when moving furniture around you may not feel as strong, but that’s because you’re having to leverage your body into sub-optimal positions. For example, when you open a door, it’s much easier to open a door by the door knob rather than by the hinge. If you push open a door by the hinge, it’s going to feel very heavy. That has nothing to do with strength or lack of it, but leverage.

As for grocery bags, have you considered that maybe they’re just plain heavy? I can guarantee that most weeks the collective weight of the groceries I buy are probably between 50-80lbs. Also, again to leverage, where the weight (groceries) is at and the distance from the fulcrum (your elbow) can make a huge difference on how it feels.
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OP, maybe start dead lifting in the gym instead of doing hammer strength machines and cable pulldowns.
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Originally Posted By SnipeItLikePro⏩
I think so man. Except, I thought low reps was better for strength.
They are, generally speaking. But only for the actual movements you practice. That is what we mean by “strength is specific”.
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You must be training wrong

I have some exceptional gym lifts and my real life strength is also insane

I own a farm and can easily outwork 3-4x anyone else I've encountered srs
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In HS I was like 165 lbs. My bench 1rm was like 115 lbs ded fkn srs.

Now I am 220 lbs and bench is 225 x 10. In my peak heavy lifting days, I was deadlifting 530.

It made a massive difference IRL strength lol. If you're just bro lifting and not really gaining weight, I can see it making no difference though.
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Originally Posted By Mike1991⏩
You must be training wrong

I have some exceptional gym lifts and my real life strength is also insane

I own a farm and can easily outwork 3-4x anyone else I've encountered srs
Your strength is probably from your farm work and natural strength. I do compound exercises. Except deadlifts and squats. I do pull-ups, dips, bench, ohp, rows, etc. I go to failure with 8-9 reps normally.
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Originally Posted By SnipeItLikePro⏩
Your strength is probably from your farm work and natural strength. I do compound exercises.Except deadlifts and squats. I do pull-ups, dips, bench, ohp, rows, etc. I go to failure with 8-9 reps normally.
Well there’s your problem.
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Originally Posted By mCheech⏩
In HS I was like 165 lbs. My bench 1rm was like 115 lbs ded fkn srs.

Now I am 220 lbs and bench is 225 x 10. In my peak heavy lifting days, I was deadlifting 530.

It made a massive difference IRL strength lol. If you're just bro lifting and not really gaining weight, I can see it making no difference though.
Nah man. I’m gaining weight. There’s some strength gain in small niche areas. It’s just not overall. Like say if I wanna pull the handbrake all the way up, my body jolts up and looks like I’m struggling because it’s unusual movement.
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Originally Posted By MuscleXtreme⏩
Well there’s your problem.
I knew someone would say this. I don’t see why that would make a difference tbh. I develop my back in other ways. Legs admittedly not so much.
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Originally Posted By SnipeItLikePro⏩
I knew someone would say this. I don’t see why that would make a difference tbh. I develop my back in other ways. Legs admittedly not so much.
They are considered whole body movements for a reason. You load up weight on those (safely) and you will be much stronger IRL. If you gotta pick just one, at least do deadlift.
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Originally Posted By Magomed1⏩
Because unless you're doing moderate heavy compound lifts for several years to build an foundation...doing reverse lunge curls doesn't build a solid strength base.

95% of what people do in the gym has zero carryover into real world strength.
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switched exclusively to dumbbell bench crew

get those stabilization muscles working
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It depends from where you started and the progress you have made. When I first joined a gym I was 135 lbs. I use to work with my dad renovating apartments and I had trouble handling heavy buckets and drywall sheets. I'm at 181 lbs now and way stronger.
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You’re right OP, that’s why athletes in power sports like football don’t lift weights. Oh wait, they actually spend half their training time in the weight room. Geez, you better go tell them it doesn’t translate to functional strength so they can change their programs.
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Originally Posted By SnipeItLikePro⏩
Yeah you’ll feel your biceps if you load up like it’s a bicep curl. But what if you’re carrying your grocery bag with your arm full extended down? It FEELS heavy still. The gym does affect how heavy **** feels. Nor how easily you can carry it (using a non gym motion/position).

I basically want to be able to defend myself and fend off people.I want to be able to stop getting strangled and pushed around.

I think I might just learn boxing.
Yeah, so maybe you should be doing some type of self-defense training. Because that is more than just a strength thing- leverage, balance, momentum, technique, etc. Boxing is fine, but from you description of the guy being able to control you by holding one of your arms some kind of wrestling or martial arts would probably help more. Jujitsu has been the flavor of the week for awhile.
Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy⏩
Lifting heavy doesn't make you functionally strong, bodybuilding doesn't make you functionally strong.

The things that make you functionally strong are weird exercises that engage your support muscles. Such as club swinging, rotating a plate around your head, one leg squatting type exercises, band exercises, wrist and forearm exercises.... higher reps is more important than heavy and low.

Grip, Foot and core strength are most important for strength.
aka Functional strength training? I trained for a few months with these people when I had the money.

https://www.barwis.com/

Wore my butt out, feel that I definitely gained strength.

But don't know what you are on about w/foot strength.
Originally Posted By Suqat⏩
So I think most real world strength involves core, stability, grip strength, neck training, and a posterior chain.Which these areas are largely ignored by many guys. Most guys don't do keg/sandbag carries, farmers walks, yokes, loading, or grip work. I've been a firm believer in this type of training for awhile, since my results in specific exercises like squat and deadlift have exploded the past two years I have incorporated this type of training. (Also, this training is very easy to do during quarantine.)
Yes, have trained core, stability, and posterior chain. My grip strength is sad though, and neck issues.
Originally Posted By SnipeItLikePro⏩
I knew someone would say this. I don’t see why that would make a difference tbh. I develop my back in other ways.Legs admittedly not so much.
Legs are so important though. After my stint of athletic training + a few months of spin classes I felt like I got my legs back. As in the kind of strength and agility I had when I was in my late teens and skating 12+ hours a week. Feels better everyday.
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amazes me the amount of people who can bench 315 but will grab the 45 lb plate with two arms. or do dumbell press with 100s, but take the 100s out one at a time, hold it with both hands and waddle over.

since high school i always made it a rule, i never pick up a dumb bell or plate with two hands where practical. even the 150lb dumb bells i would never walk over to my bench with two hands. 45 plates i never walk around holding wwith two hands, unless im holding two of them and pinching them together. not saying i am the strongest guy on earth but i have moved some **** that people where like wow wtf. also havent lost an arm wrestling match since probably middle school.
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But who was leverage? Of course if you wrestle someone without leverage they'll easily toss you around.
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Originally Posted By plsmire⏩
Yes I’m sure Eddie Hall struggles with shopping bags.

This thread is retarded. Strength is strength.
Lmao

Yeah I don’t know what to tell you OP. I’ve noticed in the past couple years how lifting has made my job much easier.
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Half the replies in this thread are sufficient proof that the misc either doesn't lift, or is still stuck in the retard bro split pump workout mentality

As for you OP, not sure why you're such a weak bitch. All my lifts transferred over IRL. Benching more helped with grappling and pushing furniture/cars. Rowing helped with climbing and certainly grocery bags. Deadlifting and squatting made picking up my grandparents significantly easier.
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Originally Posted By SnipeItLikePro⏩
Your strength is probably from your farm work and natural strength. I do compound exercises. Except deadlifts and squats. I do pull-ups, dips, bench, ohp, rows, etc. I go to failure with 8-9 reps normally.
Its not.

If you can shoulder press 150lb dumbbells for reps, and deadlift 700+ you better Beleive that transfers over in real life. Alot of times instead of going to grab a machine to move something quickly I can just accomplish it myself

While moving stuff I will grab a side and have 2-3 grown men on the other side struggling. And I can still outwork them
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Originally Posted By nm1891⏩
You’re right OP, that’s why athletes in power sports like football don’t lift weights. Oh wait, they actually spend half their training time in the weight room. Geez, you better go tell them it doesn’t translate to functional strength so they can change their programs.
False. Most NFL players focus on core functional body weight exercises and plyometrics. Heavy weight training leads to injuries, joint degradation, and fatigue. They complement their main workouts with 10-25% weight training but weight training is supplementary. Functional training is way better for health and long careers
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Yoga is great for functional strength and movement (srs)
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Originally Posted By swolefnatic⏩
False. Most NFL players focus on core functional body weight exercises and plyometrics. Heavy weight training leads to injuries, joint degradation, and fatigue. They complement their main workouts with 10-25% weight training but weight training is supplementary. Functional training is way better for health and long careers
Football players do hella weights lol

Lifting is like a religion in the offseason for linebackers.
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It’s probably helped, and you just haven’t realized it. Maybe w/chit like arm wrestling, you won’t see that much difference (but it can). I remember I used to struggle w/carrying a single water jug, but now I can carry one on each side of my shoulders haha. But I still can barely arm wrestle and almost always lose right away. There’s a lot that factors into strength capabilities, and the best strength programs out there are not going to make you have super-human strength just for the sake of it.
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I'm gonna go on a limb and say you haven't gained much strength in the gym, relatively speaking. As someone who has lifted consistently for nearly 15 years, I can tell you that there is definitely a carryover from resistance training to functional strength. I am noticeably faster when sprinting, can lift heavy objects like boxes etc. more easily, and am much harder to manhandle or tackle than I was before training. And I was about the same weight when I started, btw.

The main reason being when you train with weights, you are training your muscles, CNS, and your form. Stronger muscles and a better CNS will help functional strength. Everyday activities most likely have become easier for you, but it's hard to notice day to day over a couple years.
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Originally Posted By Camecha⏩
Who cares? I don’t lift to lift grocery bags easier I lift so I look cute naked
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Originally Posted By swolefnatic⏩
False. Most NFL players focus on core functional body weight exercises and plyometrics. Heavy weight training leads to injuries, joint degradation, and fatigue. They complement their main workouts with 10-25% weight training but weight training is supplementary. Functional training is way better for health and long careers
Sure, maybe during the actual season, but football players definitely spend a good amount of time in the weight room during the offseason, especially linemen and backers, there's videos all over youtube of NFL players lifting pretty damn heavy. When I played, literally half our offseason was in the weight room with the goal of increasing our bench, squat and powerclean (we did those instead of DLs, more explosive). You dont really believe that NFL players are as jacked as they are without spending a decent amount of time in the gym? Inb4 genetics and tech bro lol.
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