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post 1631984983 02-21-2021, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted By Evlve⏩
Your position is that God or Gods son produced a system for humanity that would allow humanity to thrive and live peacefully.

They communicated it, it’s in a book, people go and listen to it and learn and try to live their life by it. The alternative is burning in hell for eternity. Seems like a scary enough consequence to deter people from disobeying.

But it didn’t. Wars were fought. Some Christians don’t understand it, it gets misinterpreted and people do horrible things despite being Christian. It did not lead to utopia. It is not a perfect system.

If I was a doctor and I prescribed people a protocol for being better humans. People tried to understand that protocol, but it wasn’t always clear, there was doubt, some instructions were misinterpreted, some consequences for not following it precisely were ignored and a bunch of people died then would you say it’s a good protocol? No! You would say the instructions need to be more clear, there needs to be more evidence that it works, and there needs to be more transparency.

I’m not saying Christianity is bad. I think it’s great and has helped a lot of people, but it’s not foolproof or perfect.
Wait, you're blaming Christianity because some humans misinterpreted what they read?

Let me ask you a simple question.

Is it possible to write ANYTHING, that no human, ever, now and forever, will never misinterpret?

So it's Christianity's fault if a human, in human error, misinterprets it?


We have people who don't understand warning labels on commercial appliances and still die to accidents, despite the clear warnings. Come on.


You specifically brought up people dying. I told you, God says "Do not murder".... if you misinterpret that, it's humanity's fault, not God's.


The mere fact that there has been misinterpretations is not an indictment on the system.
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post 1631985333 02-21-2021, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted By kovalchuk71⏩
Progressing to ad hominems......

Gee, ask me if I’m shocked.
Stop replying to me. You injected yourself into my conversation telling someone to "not waste his time" with me.

So go **** off and stop acting the victim. You're trash.
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post 1631985493 02-21-2021, 02:48 PM
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Can confirm the world is run by dumb average people.


Even dumber than you think.
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post 1631985563 02-21-2021, 02:49 PM
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The mad scientist has become an archetype over the years. It refers to people who have become rational to they point they're unable to form and maintain relationships (usually happens due to trauma). They lose connection with the real world. They develop diseases because their body goes to chit due to numbing it over their life. They can't keep a social life because they weird people out due to being disconnected.

At this point, society at large as become wise enough to not let it get out of hand.
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post 1631985713 02-21-2021, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted By CalmWind⏩
Stop replying to me. You injected yourself into my conversation telling someone to "not waste his time" with me.

So go **** off and stop acting the victim.You're trash.
Oh the irony. I’m the one who is trash? Look at your comments. My comments aren’t hostile, while yours are filled with personal attacks. Would Jesus approve of your comments?

Anyways. Fair enough. Again, have a nice day, sir.
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post 1631985903 02-21-2021, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted By kovalchuk71⏩
My comments aren’t hostile
Injecting yourself into a conversation, advising one party to ignore the other, is hostile, you nimwit. You reap what you sow.
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post 1631985913 02-21-2021, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted By kovalchuk71⏩
I don’t have anything against religion. Please stop putting words in my mouth. I was raised a Christian. Live your life as you please.
Oh boy. Everyone here is retarded Atheists and Christians.
post 1631986053 02-21-2021, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted By CalmWind⏩
Wait, you're blaming Christianity because some humans misinterpreted what they read?

Let me ask you a simple question.

Is it possible to write ANYTHING, that no human, ever, now and forever, will never misinterpret?

So it's Christianity's fault if a human, in human error, misinterprets it?


We have people who don't understand warning labels on commercial appliances and still die to accidents, despite the clear warnings. Come on.


You specifically brought up people dying. I told you, God says "Do not murder".... if you misinterpret that, it's humanity's fault, not God's.


The mere fact that there has been misinterpretations is not an indictment on the system.
That argument works for human creations but not for an infinitely wise creator of the universe.

If God played a live stream in the sky of heaven every morning, and if you ****ed up you dreamt of hell every night until you made it right that would be pretty effective would it not? But it would also constrain us.

In any case I would like to think an infinitely wise creator would understand how humans would interpret the messages and figure out the best way to communicate them to prevent those atrocities.

maybe by communicating it the way it was and by letting humanity make mistakes and document them throughout history like we have it does lead to us developing a deep understanding on our own that translates across generations. Maybe we live in a loop until we get it right and move on. Who knows. I definitely don’t.
post 1631986143 02-21-2021, 02:56 PM
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Y'all need to watch Robert McNamara: The Fog of War if you think high intelligence automatically equals good policy. Harvard professor, CEO of Ford (3rd largest company in the world at that time), and he still acted like a fukking idiot.

Not only was his strategy chitty, but he was an absolute moral coward as well. He pressed to continue Nam after he KNEW he couldn't find a way out of it, and started drafting literal retards as cannon fodder so he didn't have to call up the National Guard.
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post 1631986263 02-21-2021, 02:58 PM
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That is not the world's smartest man. That is the person idiots think is the world's smartest man.
post 1631986373 02-21-2021, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted By Evlve⏩
That argument works for human creations but not for an infinitely wise creator of the universe.

If God played a live stream in the sky of heaven every morning, and if you ****ed up you dreamt of hell every night until you made it right that would be pretty effective would it not? But it would also constrain us.

In any case I would like to think an infinitely wise creator would understand how humans would interpret the messages and figure out the best way to communicate them to prevent those atrocities.

maybe by communicating it the way it was and by letting humanity make mistakes and document them throughout history like we have it does lead to us developing a deep understanding on our own that translates across generations. Maybe we live in a loop until we get it right and move on. Who knows. I definitely don’t.
You see an imperfect system.

I see imperfect humans, who intentionally disobey, or make mistakes.


You can have a perfect system, and a human can come make a human error while reading it, can this not happen?

You can have a perfect system, and a human can simply choose to ignore and disobey.. can this not happen?


The Earth is a crib for baby sentient beings learning how to walk, metaphorically speaking. This is how it is done.
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post 1631986453 02-21-2021, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
That is not the world's smartest man. That is the person idiots think is the world's smartest man.
He completely IQ mogs you.
post 1631986653 02-21-2021, 03:03 PM
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post 1631987023 02-21-2021, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
He completely IQ mogs you.
I mean I don't even know how you score a 250 or w/e he claims to have since most IQ tests don't let you go over 160 or so.
post 1631987283 02-21-2021, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
He completely IQ mogs you.
A fuking dump from an Ethiopian mogs wincel.
post 1631987843 02-21-2021, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted By CalmWind⏩
You see an imperfect system.

I see imperfect humans, who intentionally disobey, or make mistakes.


You can have a perfect system, and a human can come make a human error while reading it, can this not happen?

You can have a perfect system, and a human can simply choose to ignore and disobey.. can this not happen?


The Earth is a crib for baby sentient beings learning how to walk, metaphorically speaking. This is how it is done.
I don’t see an imperfect system. I personally believe it’s a perfect system (the universe and all of this not just Christianity).

I do see imperfect humans and if we were created we were created imperfectly.

This either means a creator made a mistake, which I find hard to believe considering everything that went right. Down to the smallest observable and unobservable detail.

Or we were created with the ability to misunderstand, misinterpret in a universe filled with uncertainty because that what drives us. We want to know the truth, desperately. We stare at the stars, go to church, listen to smart people, because we want to understand. This comes with the price of people having the ability to be sociopaths and psychopaths; to use others for their own personal gain rather than to try and build each other up.

If everything was spelled out for us and there was no uncertainty in our understanding then life would be simple. We wouldn’t need to wonder. We wouldn’t need to imagine. We would simply know the truth, and follow it.

I agree with your last statement about the earth being a crib. Repped for the discussion. I’ve spent too much time on here
post 1631988383 02-21-2021, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted By Evlve⏩
I don’t see an imperfect system. I personally believe it’s a perfect system (the universe and all of this not just Christianity).

I do see imperfect humans and if we were created we were created imperfectly.

This either means a creator made a mistake, which I find hard to believe considering everything that went right. Down to the smallest observable and unobservable detail.

Or we were created with the ability to misunderstand, misinterpret in a universe filled with uncertainty because that what drives us. We want to know the truth, desperately. We stare at the stars, go to church, listen to smart people, because we want to understand. This comes with the price of people having the ability to be sociopaths and psychopaths; to use others for their own personal gain rather than to try and build each other up.

If everything was spelled out for us and there was no uncertainty in our understanding then life would be simple. We wouldn’t need to wonder. We wouldn’t need to imagine. We would simply know the truth, and follow it.

I agree with your last statement about the earth being a crib. Repped for the discussion. I’ve spent too much time on here
Okay.

But I have to add something.

We are imperfect, because we are in a fallen state. This is what we call "After the fall of Adam"...
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post 1631988573 02-21-2021, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted By MiscMathematician⏩
yeah so, the moral guidelines are contradictory. what omnipotent being could be such?
They are not contradictory.

God's instructions are for Mankind only.


Before you claim double standard, He is God and you are not.
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post 1631988683 02-21-2021, 03:30 PM
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Look how huge his head is. That other dude is getting fukking skull mogged to death



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Originally Posted By MiscMathematician⏩
how do you know I'm not god and am just trolling you?
You wouldn't write a book implying pi is 3.
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I contribute to his patreon. I like what he has to say.

I also like what Henry Ford, Bobby Fischer, Charles Lindbergh, and other brilliant men had to say about society.
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Originally Posted By CalmWind⏩
You see an imperfect system.

I see imperfect humans, who intentionally disobey, or make mistakes.


You can have a perfect system, and a human can come make a human error while reading it, can this not happen?

You can have a perfect system, and a human can simply choose to ignore and disobey.. can this not happen?


The Earth is a crib for baby sentient beings learning how to walk, metaphorically speaking. This is how it is done.
Have you actually read the bible?

Let's start with Genesis. God made two people. And somehow their offspring married some, um, other people that just showed up? Or did they marry their sisters that were never mentioned?

- Fapping not allowed.
- Get circumcised or else God will smite you.
- Gotta take a dump in a literal hole in the ground.

Besides God is only as strong as a unicorn. He's a wimp.
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lol at that fuking autist

His "theory" boils down to the people in power are corrupt chitheads (true) and we need new leaders (true), so we need a new ultra authoritarian system of government which conforms to the "right" form of thinking, which of course would be entirely aligned with my views, which I would be willing to run. These new leaders, possibly even myself, who would have even far greater power than the previous corrupt *******s, would have humanity's best interest at heart and while they would go so far as to place restrictions on who can perform basic human functions like breeding, we should entrust them with this power to not be corrupt *******s like every other leader in the past.

lmao

lmao at more centralized power being the solution to people who abused power in the past.
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Originally Posted By superman704⏩
I bet anything I can beat him at chess
Maybe you can. He is married to a woman that was on the american chess team tho, so he might have learned a thing or two.
Originally Posted By elterrible987⏩
lol at that fuking autist

His "theory" boils down to the people in power are corrupt chitheads (true) and we need new leaders (true), so we need a new ultra authoritarian system of government which conforms to the "right" form of thinking, which of course would be entirely aligned with my views, which I would be willing to run. These new leaders, possibly even myself, who would have even far greater power than the previous corrupt *******s, would have humanity's best interest at heart and while they would go so far as to place restrictions on who can perform basic human functions like breeding, we should entrust them with this power to not be corrupt *******s like every other leader in the past.

lmao

lmao at more centralized power being the solution to people who abused power in the past.
Well we need some leader figures most likely, so why not the smartest people alive that have some understanding of reality and humanity. I could expand on this, but not today.


It´s easy to sit there and criticize it when you have no understanding of "his theory" or the ramifications of it.
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His theory or idea, boiled down to its core is to replace all current leadership with leaders with the exact same belief system as himself. He doesnt even allow the possibility of leaders that think different than him. That is fuking retarded and not even close to feasible. I cannot think of a more narcissistic view point than his genius idea of replacing everyone with people who agree 100% with his world view and for them to have absolute authoritative power.

Good news is he is an autistic hermit and doesnt have the charisma of a hitler or even lower level cult leader so we are pretty safe.
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Dudes 68 years old and has accomplished less then most miscrs. Spare me the bullchit.

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Originally Posted By StinkholePatrol⏩
Dudes 68 years old and has accomplished less then most miscrs. Spare me the bullchit.

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Let me know when you have written a good as paper as the CTMU. Accomplishments doesn´t mean that much to many geniuses. Accomplishments can also in many cases not be measured. Chris Langan is interested in and makes theories of how the universe/reality is. Whats more important and interesting than that?
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Originally Posted By Misc420Doctor⏩
Top tier iq does not mean he has good social intelligence or compassion.
Imagine if eugenics was somehow implemented and everyone was ultra intelligent but you were a janitor because you were just a dumb 160iq pleb. LOL.
Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
Wow that is crazy. Imagine always being able to understand everything. I wonder if that is a burden because how do you even relate to average people.
Originally Posted By superman704⏩
I bet anything I can beat him at chess
I went to school with someone who is now an astrophysicist. I guarantee you could teach someone how to play chess and after 15 minutes they could destroy said astrophysicist. It's honestly weird when thinking about it.
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