A toilet is one of the very few safe spaces away from male bodies. Allowing male bodies in is dangerous.

There's nothing stopping me, a 6'4" 260lbs man with a beard self-identifying as a woman and going into those spaces. I don't even need to change anything about my physicality, appearance or taken any hormones. There's nothing stopping creepy uncles doing the same thing. There's nothing stopping any perverted men from just going in and being sick ****s. Note, I'm not even talking about transwomen here.

Also, the majority/minority argument is a bit redundant. Most men aren't rapists. Most men aren't murderers. Most men haven't committed violent crimes. But there are some who do. And making it easier for them is doing victims of abuse no favors. Same applies to the entirety of the trans arguments.

How many cases does it need for you to take it seriously that perhaps it's not the best idea to let male bodies in female segregated spaces?

Also, a gay man risks far more being caught by a man than a female catching a male body being a sick ****. And I agree it's hugely different. Perverted gay men perving on other men is very different to perverted men preying on women in womens spaces.

Do you think it's fair for a woman who has experienced trauma from a male body to not have any space for themselves? Do you think it's fair that biological females are getting refered to as menstruators, chestfeeders, birthing people and so on and so forth with the word "women" or "woman" either being "exclusionary" or a reference to a male bodied person declaring themselves to be. It's an assault on language, it's also pretty interesting how this isn't much of a thing for transmen. Also detransitioners always fall by the wayside and are never a part of this conversation. That's a huge red flag.

Amazing post, srs.

No point arguing with that little guy though.

He knows there are differences between the sexes, differences that no amount of surgery and make-up can change. He just hates women so much that he relishes in anything that causes them harm.

He knows that it’s female foetuses that get aborted by virtue of their sex.
He knows that scientific studies shows men are fundamentally faster, stronger and generate more explosive power even at the same height and weight as females.
He also knows that studies shows restricting testosterone only reduces muscle mass by around 5% over the course of a year.... not nearly enough to close the gap. And certainly doesn’t alter skeletal advantages or advantages born from larger lung capacity and blood oxygen supply.
He knows that only women can give rise to a baby and menstruate. He would certainly know what sex to look for if he wanted to hire a surrogate for instance.
He knows that skewing sex statistics causes harm to services, especially in medical situations such as a pandemic whereby a virus affects the sexes differently and so do the vaccines.
He knows that statistics prove that identifying as a woman does not alter the likeliness of male-pattern offending. In fact, it would appear that trans identifying males are MORE likely to be in prison for sexual offences than normal men are.
He knows that there is no way of proving undoubtedly that a person is transgender, “brain sex” has been thoroughly debunked and even if they did manage to prove brain sex exists, that would not override the sex of the body that a brain inhabits.
He knows that puberty blockers are harmful, being used off-label and do not provide ANY benefits to psychological health, as seen in the Uk gender clinic study. Finally and reluctantly published this year. It was one of the main pins that allowed Keira Bell to win her case against the clinic.
He knows that so-called “sex reassignment surgery” does not reduce suicide likelihood of trans peoples.
He knows that mixed sex spaces have been proven to be far more dangerous for women than single sex spaces.
He knows that intersex people or people born with differences in sexual development are still either biologically male or female and suffer with a disorder than renders the vast majority of them as infertile. They are not perfectly healthy people with perfectly healthy bodies.
He knows that it is scientifically impossible to change biological sex.

But his hatred of women is stronger than any desire he has for factual and logical reasoning on this subject. It’s a shame because he would probably be fun to debate with if he wasn’t liable to being disingenuous due to an obsession to tear women down and remove their rights.

I wonder what a venn diagram of incels and trans right activists looks like. There's a lot of misogyny that I can see and I see a lot of institutions folding to the whims and not even looking at the data. I was very much in their camp previously until I actually took a step back and read.

I am an immi living in the UK and even "conservative, pull yourself by the bootstraps" type of people in this country want a lot of things handed for them.

They want their children to be coddled in school, they can't be ****ed to threaten their MPs with no vote unless they get up with their bureaucratic asses to do something. Only complaints and bemoanings.

Just like the leftwing inbreds taking their free healthcare for granted and being fat. JFL

I would be very curious to see that too.

That’s it. The cognitive dissonance it takes to believe that men can become women (and vice versa), once undone, can't be redissonanced.

This stuff is an actual mental illness that they want to normalise. Actual downfall of society that this is an actual debate.

Please stop this ride I wanna get off lol

YES! Its time for us to speak up and ACT NOW, for our children and their children

Side note: for anyone unaware of what we're fighting, or dont understand why theyre trying to destroy religion, the nuclear family, and all our values see below. Read these and tell me how many of their goals theyve accomplished?

This was calling them out in 1963!!


Can someone please embed the attachment? I suck

The only push back in the UK i know is stromzy at the beginning of the shut up video

It’s clear you don’t have a daughter. Go and get fukd, srs

There isn't but then what? What are you going to do? Follow her into the stall? I mean there is nothing stopping a guy from entering a woman's restroom now. After the fact, if she reports you, you will be arrested...And this is all very theoretical. How many woman have been assaulted in this manner by mtf trans people? It's already easy for men to just walk in and rape. I don't understand what difference it makes whether one is allowed to enter a bathroom or not.

I mean the easiest solution is to just have single bathrooms then. Because any other situation leaves people vulnerable to getting sexually assaulted no matter what you deem legal. Maybe they should just redesign public restrooms where it is essentially a series of ministall rooms.

What the fuk? I leave for a few years and fking trannies take over?

Still, at least we're not Scotland.

No. You're just making me "the bad guy" because I happen to disagree with you. You're a lay person who works in some factory and has zero understanding of how any of this chit works. And you have a chip on your shoulder over trannies or something. IDK why. I'm not even particularly sympathetic to trans people. I just don't hate them like you do.

I missed you

Gee what gave me away? The fact that I've never had sex?

That's what all the wenches say...

Anyway, point stands. I was on board with the "what two adults do behind closed doors is their business" thing and even the "people can be what they want as long as they aren't hurting anyone" thing...

But it's hitting the point where I'm starting to see why the gays were mercilessly persecuted for centuries. The slippery slope was real.

Imagine being such a hyper virgin your desperate little brain starts thinking mentally ill middle aged men in dresses are women. Just LMAO, sort your fukking life out kunt.

I think there are gay/tranny supremacists who push their agenda too aggressively. But chit like bathrooms or being able to play a sport etc are more nuanced subjects. I don't think they should be teaching kids much about being gay or transgender other than simply stating what it is. "Some people sometimes experience a condition known as gender dysmorphia where they feel as if they are a particular gender that isn't the usual one associated with their chromo****l sex." Like that's all that needs to be said during sex ed, and then move on. I don't think there needs to be explicit pro lgbt propaganda. I just think ppl need to be objective about the situation. The allegations that the person is mentally insane don't change the reality of the circumstance that the therapies have helped. You don't have to call someone by their pronoun, but u can understand why they might get mad. Guys get mad when they are called women. A woman might get mad when she's called a dude. Out of basic respect for other people, I use whatever pronouns they prefer where possible, if I know what their pronouns are. If I don't, I make an assumption or just don't even use any gender specific language toward them until I know. I've had cases where I ran into people where I straight up wasn't sure if they were male or female lmao. I just was respectful and used neutral language. That was it. That this is a tall ask in 2021 says something about this world.

As far as female and male prisons and chit, perhaps they need better oversight to keep ppl safer in prisons in general. Prison rape is out of control period. There isn't really a good place to put trans people. They may need to reimagine how they do prisons in general. Ditto for bathrooms, but I still don't see how saying trans ppl can't use x bathroom stops rapes in practice. All it seems to do is punish nonrapists.I don't think they are women. I think they are trannies who identify as women. Maybe I just don't relate. I know the UK is super cucked because you guys just suck at everything and can't even own guns. So maybe your society has swung too far in the other direction. I wouldn't know since I live in America, which is superior to your chithole country.

If you came up to me with that gender neutral bullchit I'd neg you IRL with a hammer. Srs.

If you can't tell the difference between a man and a fking woman, get your eyes checked. Going all Sam Smith so mentally ill kunts don't throw a fit doesn't help, it's made all of this worse.

K maybe you're a better judge than I am. Wanna explain to me wtf this is?



This is why gender neutral language exists bro.

Wincel, No one is trying to stop trans people from using the bathroom, or competing in sports etc.

Trans people should be using the facilities and competing in the sports that are appropriate for their sex, the same way that everyone else has to.

Yes, a man could just walk into a womens bathrooms to harm women but what stops them is SOCIAL CONVENTION. The idea that they can be challenged, reported and arrested stops the majority of men from accessing women's facilities. No bloke wants to be seen entering the women's toilets because people take notice and will be on alert.

If men are now allowed to enter womens bathrooms if they wear lipstick, you remove the ability of people to challenge males going in to facilities that they do not belong. Once the threat of challenge is gone, social conventions that stop males entering are completely dismantled.

They need either a third space or for men to stop being kunts to their lipstick and skirt wearing brothers. This is a male on male violence and intimidation problem which is not womens problem to solve.

Women’s facilities and categories are not for “anyone who is scared of men or doesn’t feel like men”, they are for women. Biological females.

There are repercussions to everything. If people want to enter into bathrooms as they please...let the ball roll. If lessons need to be learned then so be it. I want to see how women will react to piss all over the toilet since men don't usually have to sit while peeing LOL

Lessons learned like a grown ass man in a dress molesting your 8 years old daughter in the restroom? Lessons like perverts in drag assaulting your sister in the bathroom?

why can't u report a tranny who assaults u in a restroom?

also idk about places u use but most of the time, restrooms are kind of away from public view...any rapist could just walk into the girls' room. Most ppl don't see.

Well they could make a gender neutral restroom and mandate thst for trans, but then it is kind of unfair to trans people. Some of them don't want to be singled out as trans. It might be the best route, but I still find this rapist argument to be ridiculous because it is almost as easy for a dude to just walk in. The only difference is as you said if someone is watching before someone enters. In practice, this rarely ever is a thing.

Women are clearly just collateral damage

How often does this happen? I bet it is far more likely for a straight guy to do this to ur daughter than a tranny.

A hermaphrodite.

Yes, let's change our entire language and social structure to accommodate a genetic defect that affects 0.00001% of the population.

As much as I am mostly in agreement, if it was either or, I'd still rather them be in your bathroom than pay for a 3rd bathroom across the country. Would be a massive waste of resources for an almost non-existent minority.

I never said that. Notice what I said. I said when dealing with those people where I am not sure, I use ambiguous language or even just ask them.

That's why in Portland, a lot of places have a unisex restroom. Anyone can use it. It's understood it is for trans ppl or just anyone who might want some privacy. Usually these are just small single bathrooms. That wya it isn't a huge waste.

from context that is probably what he is talking about...a grown ass mtf