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post 1632833743 03-03-2021, 10:18 AM
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WTF

My mind is BLOWN

I have never seen or heard of anything like this until now. Are we living in Idiocracy? That kid must be 17 years old and he's going BACK to 9th grade? LMAO. That's brutal, he'll never fit in. He should just drop out and flip burgers.

Even the "dumbest" kids in my school still somehow graduated with at least a 2.0 GPA. But a GPA below 1.0? Never saw it in my life. I went to a decent school in a decent neighborhood, though, so that's my "privilege" speaking.

Either way, this is 100% both the parent and kids fault. All you have to do to graduate highschool is show up and put in a tiny bit of effort. Take the tests, do most of the homework, etc. Most teachers will pity pass you just for attempting the group projects. The mom clearly had no interest or control over her kid, so he probably skipped school everyday and probably only showed up for a few tests here and there.

The teachers never reached out to the parents? They never held a conference call between the teachers and parents? How did the kid go through 4 years of school anyways? Just baffles me. Just pathetic how something like this can happen in the US in 2021. We should be getting smarter has a society. Our education system should be improving on a yearly basis. I don't know how bad that school is, or how terrible the teachers are, but that school needs to fix their chit!
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Originally Posted By wincel
Here's a question for you. Why fund school through property taxes? Seems incredibly regressive to me. That just seems to punish the poor.
Originally Posted By wincel
The reason I think funding via property taxes is wrong is it inherently creates an environment where the poor are guaranteed less funding than the rich. Some of these inner city schools were really bad and got grants after the fact, but the damage was done.
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Sure they do now, after decades of a regressive system. I think the damage is done though. And yes, I agree that there are other factors here too like having a father local gang influence, cost of living and having parents at home, etc.
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I don't think it should be equal everywhere. I just think schools should be funded through a different method. I think you're jumping the gun on my stance on this. I merely criticized one thing: the property taxes funding schools. I didn't say it was sufficient to explain the problems.

To put it bluntly and answer your question, I don't believe that. You assumed I do.
Originally Posted By wincel
My diatribe? Giving more money won't fix it. Not giving them enough money initially was a bad policy in the first place. These two are not mutually exclusive. I think you've been arguing with your opinion of what I said more than the reality of what I said.
These are all the comments I made. Tell me where I said they do not get enough funding or where I said that money would solve the problem. Tell me where there was a diatribe.

Let me summarize what I said explicitly: Funding schools through property taxes creates a situation with penalizes the poor. You said that's great. Glad we agree. Let's move on. At no point was there any claim that this would solve the problems nor is there a claim this is the most important factor involved in the education of African Americans.
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They obviously need to make math and science more inner city friendly

If you shoot tyrone and Jamal then twice at a bystander how many rounds do you have left?
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Originally Posted By GooBaaa
They obviously need to make math and science more inner city friendly

If you shoot tyrone and Jamal then twice at a bystander how many rounds do you have left?

If you robbed the corner store last week, the walgreens this week then what can you rob you next week?
Don't forget to make 17 x 6 = 112 for the hicks in Appalachia.
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Originally Posted By deft0nes
WTF

My mind is BLOWN

I have never seen or heard of anything like this until now. Are we living in Idiocracy? That kid must be 17 years old and he's going BACK to 9th grade? LMAO. That's brutal, he'll never fit in. He should just drop out and flip burgers.

Even the "dumbest" kids in my school still somehow graduated with at least a 2.0 GPA. But a GPA below 1.0? Never saw it in my life. I went to a decent school in a decent neighborhood, though, so that's my "privilege" speaking.

Either way, this is 100% both the parent and kids fault. All you have to do to graduate highschool is show up and put in a tiny bit of effort. Take the tests, do most of the homework, etc. Most teachers will pity pass you just for attempting the group projects. The mom clearly had no interest or control over her kid, so he probably skipped school everyday and probably only showed up for a few tests here and there.

The teachers never reached out to the parents? They never held a conference call between the teachers and parents? How did the kid go through 4 years of school anyways? Just baffles me. Just pathetic how something like this can happen in the US in 2021. We should be getting smarter has a society. Our education system should be improving on a yearly basis. I don't know how bad that school is, or how terrible the teachers are, but that school needs to fix their chit!
Yes. We are. Anti-intellectualism has reached fever pitch in this country from both the right and the left. Our culture fails to place an emphasis on science and mathematics. The politician is more respected than the physicist. The celebrity is more respected than the mathematician. People value fame over education.
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Originally Posted By wincel
Don't forget to make 17 x 6 = 112 for the hicks in Appalachia.
How many ways can you calculate this in your head?

Show your work.

If you can think of more ways than me I'll rep you.

Even though you're a douchebag.

Your move, bro.
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Originally Posted By DrugsToGetBig
wow, who would have thought..if you don't show up..you dont pass


yeah the school failed your son lady
Exactly lol basically all they would have to do is show up and they'd get passed
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Just a future lawyer, doctor, engineer in the making
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Originally Posted By Merovingian11
How many ways can you calculate this in your head?

Show your work.
One immediate way is to just do 17 x 6 = 10 x 6 + 7 x 6. Another is to do 20 x 6 -3 x 6. Another is to try to figure out 17 x 3 and then double it. Another is to figure out 17 x 2 and then triple it. There are a lot of ways u can do this. I just don't get how a Wharton educated billionaire and both his ivy educated children couldn't pick one of these ways and arrive at the correct conclusion.

And if they can't do this, is it any small wonder how fuked our society is?
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Originally Posted By wincel
One immediate way is to just do 17 x 6 = 10 x 6 + 7 x 6. Another is to do 20 x 6 -3 x 6. Another is to try to figure out 17 x 3 and then double it. Another is to figure out 17 x 2 and then triple it. There are a lot of ways u can do this. I just don't get how a Wharton educated billionaire and both his ivy educated children couldn't pick one of these ways and arrive at the correct conclusion.

And if they can't do this, is it any small wonder how fuked our society is?
You didn't show all of your work and you didn't state what it equals.
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Why is everyone so stressed?

This kid will be admitted to Harvard before your kids. We're only a year or two away from "racial scholarships". By the time he gets back to 12th grade, he'll be in high demand by MIT, Harvard, Columbia, Berkeley, and Duke. No problem. Chill. He's got this.
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Originally Posted By Merovingian11
You didn't show all of your work and you didn't state what it equals.
It's 102 you fukin braggarts. Both of you should quit pretending you're intelligent because you've devised different logical paths to solve a simple math problem. I was doing that **** when I was 8, so you're not special.
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Originally Posted By Jax05
So much fail here...he failed at school, the school failed at educating (although that's city schools for ya), his mother failed at parenting
You can't claim the school failed when they didn't have a chance. The failures are the parent and the child.

The only time anyone could even remotely attempt to blame the school is if the child was actually at school and had a vested parent but I would wager that is such a rarity it's not even worth discussing.
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Typical trying to shift blame.

A present mother should have been aware of his grades and general intellect.
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Originally Posted By MiscInformed
Why is everyone so stressed?

This kid will be admitted to Harvard before your kids. We're only a year or two away from "racial scholarships". By the time he gets back to 12th grade, he'll be in high demand by MIT, Harvard, Columbia, Berkeley, and Duke. No problem. Chill. He's got this.
My university already has racial scholarships.

I'm a high achieving white from a poor family. I qualify for 3 out of 40 business scholarships. 2 of which have a criteria of maintaining an A average, there is a sub clause underneath this that stipulates those of Polynesian descent only need to maintain a B average. Not hints as to who the target is.

The remaining 37 are allocated to females only, specific races like Polish, Nigerian, the aforementioned Polynesian and Japanese.

The only non-discriminating scholarship on the face of the description is a miserly $400 text book one.
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Originally Posted By wincel
Yes. We are. Anti-intellectualism has reached fever pitch in this country from both the right and the left. Our culture fails to place an emphasis on science and mathematics.
Yup. 99.9% of this country is dependent on and leeches off of the innovation generated by a small community of scientists and mathematicians. And how are they thanked? By widespread scientific denialism.
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Originally Posted By ShakeBrah
It's 102 you fukin braggarts. Both of you should quit pretending you're intelligent because you've devised different logical paths to solve a simple math problem. I was doing that **** when I was 8, so you're not special.
Why couldn't Donald Trump do it?

Originally Posted By Reliance012
Yup. 99.9% of this country is dependent on and leeches off of the innovation generated by a small community of scientists and mathematicians. And how are they thanked? By widespread scientific denialism.
It comes from both the right and the left. On the right, we see widespread attacks on things like climate change research, biology (specifically the theory of evolution), and anything with political consequences, such as medical information on covid. On the left, we see assaults on things like mathematical standards, and a general rejection of science as a lens into objective truth and more as a "postmodern" construct. We see a lot of "quantum woo" bullchit from hippie leftists as well. I think our nation has a shocking culture of anti-intellectualism.

Every one of our recent presidents has taken their idiocy as a point of pride.



"The jury is still out on evolution." - George W Bush. (To his credit, he later appeared to have changed his views as he became more educated on the subject.

Obama once said he couldn't help his daughters with their algebra homework...

And Trump...well...we've seen plenty of him.

If our nations are almost all exclusively uneducated lawyers or businesspeople, how can we expect the public to value science and mathematics? They see the power structure and will follow who has the power. It seems celebrities and lawyers are the ones who run our society and have all the influence.

And if the most powerful and influential people in our government don't have educations, how can we expect our most abandoned minorities to?

We need more scientists to run for office. We need more scientists to get the word out and become influential in popular culture. We need people to look up to another Einstein or Feynman like they did in the past.
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The ignorance of his mother is the root of this problem, "the school failed him" she claims and ignores the fact that he was late or absent 272 days in three years.

The education system will only get worse until parents take charge, especially in black neighborhoods.
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Originally Posted By JoshSP1985
You can't claim the school failed when they didn't have a chance. The failures are the parent and the child.

The only time anyone could even remotely attempt to blame the school is if the child was actually at school and had a vested parent but I would wager that is such a rarity it's not even worth discussing
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Originally Posted By Ratfish
as long as all those underage kids got ballots and voted, i'm cool with this since biden with fix all of this
whats the point of giving them a ballot if they cant even read the ballot? might as well give them a chinese take out order in mandarin
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How did he pass grades 9-11 ?
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Originally Posted By wincel
Sure they do now, after decades of a regressive system. I think the damage is done though. And yes, I agree that there are other factors here too like having a father local gang influence, cost of living and having parents at home, etc.
The district I'm speaking of has been getting massive amounts of subsidies since desegregation so it's not like they've been chit forever and just now got some money. I'll go through the other factors you point by point.

Having a father - agreed and this is a huge reason why its terrible

Gang influence - not as bad as some other cities but still is really bad for the kids who get caught up

Cost of living - You can buy a livable house in the ghetto here for $10k. In a nice part of town but still have to send your kids to private school to avoid the horrible public options its about $130k for a nice 3 bedroom built in the 60s. In the burbs 5 years ago it was close to the same at around $100 a sq ft but that is rising rapidly and was about $120 per sq ft the last time I checked
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Originally Posted By wincel
One immediate way is to just do 17 x 6 = 10 x 6 + 7 x 6. Another is to do 20 x 6 -3 x 6. Another is to try to figure out 17 x 3 and then double it. Another is to figure out 17 x 2 and then triple it. There are a lot of ways u can do this. I just don't get how a Wharton educated billionaire and both his ivy educated children couldn't pick one of these ways and arrive at the correct conclusion.

And if they can't do this, is it any small wonder how fuked our society is?
What good is any of this when you don't provide anything positive towards society? You are just as bad as the kid in the OP, in fact you're worse, because you're twice his age and just as worthless.
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With affirmative action that's a full ride to an ivy league right there
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Originally Posted By ShakeBrah
It's 102 you fukin braggarts. Both of you should quit pretending you're intelligent because you've devised different logical paths to solve a simple math problem. I was doing that **** when I was 8, so you're not special.
Lol calm down kid I'm just messing with dorkcel.
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i bet its all white kids and asians in that school............right?
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LOL epic fail on the mom's part.
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Typical entitled mindset of our darker skinned friends.


Just imagine an Asian persons parents saying this. You literally can’t LMAO.
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