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post 1633138133 03-06-2021, 10:09 PM
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Haven’t DEADLIFTED in a while. Can you guys critique my form? (VID)

I understand you shouldn’t round your back. I def have my back rounded before i actually do the lift. But as soon as i pick up the weight i straighten my back.

I stopped doing these back in the day because i went too heavy with bad form and it caused back pain. So i want to make sure i start off right this time.


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Something isn’t right op. I’ll let someone else explain because I’m too lazy and dee rinking.
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Originally Posted By headturner1
Something isn’t right op. I’ll let someone else explain because I’m too lazy and dee rinking.
Lol no worries.
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hips too low... you're basically squatting the weight
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Originally Posted By TheBroBrah
Lol no worries.
I feel like you’re pulling it up with your upper body op. Like let your legs do the work.
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Originally Posted By jakobi
hips too low... you're basically squatting the weight
Yeah i figured the same thing. It’s just hard for me to do that without back rounding. Tips?
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it's not bad, just not much hip drive

really focus on sending your hips forward to bring the weight up, you're kinda pulling with your back (albeit with safe form) and the hips are trailing

probably just have slightly weak glutes and hamstrings like most people do

overall gjdm
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Originally Posted By headturner1
I feel like you’re pulling it up with your upper body op. Like let your legs do the work.
Yeah i kind of felt that way as well.
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Originally Posted By amikaelmorris
it's not bad, just not much hip drive

really focus on sending your hips forward to bring the weight up, you're kinda pulling with your back (albeit with safe form) and the hips are trailing

probably just have slightly weak glutes and hamstrings like most people do

overall gjdm
Cool man i’ll focus on that. Thanks for the solid info. My hammies are super tight too, might be a flexibility issue.
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Heavy deadlifting is not worth it. It is only a matter of time before you fukk up your lower back. I know that is hearsay to say on a bodybuilding forum but it happened to me and countless others. Unless you are a competitive powerlifter I see no reason for it.

I've been doing heavy kettlebell swings instead and it feels so much more natural. As an added bonus I feel a lot lighter on my feet and more explosive. Been doing more stuff with bands, gymnastic rings, kettlebells, weighted clubs, etc instead of just barbell lifting and the movement patterns just feel more natural and smooth.

I lost some size and strength but I feel much sharper and athletic.
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Originally Posted By shoelaces
Heavy deadlifting is not worth it. It is only a matter of time before you fukk up your lower back. I know that is hearsay to say on a bodybuilding forum but it happened to me and countless others. Unless you are a competitive powerlifter I see no reason for it.

I've been doing heavy kettlebell swings instead and it feels so much more natural. As an added bonus I feel a lot lighter on my feet and more explosive. Been doing more stuff with bands, gymnastic rings, kettlebells, weighted clubs, etc instead of just barbell lifting and the movement patterns just feel more natural and smooth.

I lost some size and strength but I feel much sharper and athletic.
You think even if i’m not maxxing all the time with good form this will happen?

Anybody else have thoughts on this? This is actually why i stopped deadlifting. But i just really want something to work on my overall pulling strength. Also i feel like with a weak lower back and not doing deadlifts it’s actually easier to injure my back on other lifts because lower back has no strength.

Edit: also you have dat ass. No homo.
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Way too much upper body being used. This is a back/legs exercise. It looks like you're doing half-assed dead mixed with shrugs. Negged.
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Originally Posted By PassiveLearner
Way too much upper body being used. This is a back/legs exercise. It looks like you're doing half-assed dead mixed with shrugs. Negged.
Lmao thanks brah.
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Originally Posted By shoelaces
Heavy deadlifting is not worth it. It is only a matter of time before you fukk up your lower back. I know that is hearsay to say on a bodybuilding forum but it happened to me and countless others. Unless you are a competitive powerlifter I see no reason for it.

I've been doing heavy kettlebell swings instead and it feels so much more natural. As an added bonus I feel a lot lighter on my feet and more explosive. Been doing more stuff with bands, gymnastic rings, kettlebells, weighted clubs, etc instead of just barbell lifting and the movement patterns just feel more natural and smooth.

I lost some size and strength but I feel much sharper and athletic.
While this is outside the scope of OPs question.... I agree. Replaced deadlifts with trap bar SLDLs or weight back extensions.

Op, like others have said you’re basically squatting down to the weight and lifting without much quad pop off the floor.
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Originally Posted By BeginnerGainz
While this is outside the scope of OPs question.... I agree. Replaced deadlifts with trap bar SLDLs or weight back extensions.

Op, like others have said you’re basically squatting down to the weight and lifting without much quad pop off the floor.
Makes sense. Thanks dude. Maybe i’ll stay away from deads, seems to be the popular opinion. Wb rack pulls?
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Originally Posted By TheBroBrah
Makes sense. Thanks dude. Maybe i’ll stay away from deads, seems to be the popular opinion. Wb rack pulls?
That is basically a deadlift with more ego, to me anyway. People can’t program them for reps and good form and almost always try to turn it into an go lift for sets of 1-3 reps above the knee with lots of grunting. Not saying that is what you would do but I see it a lot.

I’ve used the following exercises in its place at one point or another:
Trap bar deadlifts off the floor
Trap bar SLDLs
Back extensions
Hip thrust (on light days)
Good mornings with a Safety bar
Gironda leg curls (google them)
Seated leg curls+High and wide leg presses
Sumo squats
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Originally Posted By TheBroBrah
Makes sense. Thanks dude. Maybe i’ll stay away from deads, seems to be the popular opinion. Wb rack pulls?
I’d stick with them man, they are one of my favorite lifts. Just clean up the form a bit and keep pulling
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Originally Posted By headturner1
I’d stick with them man, they are one of my favorite lifts. Just clean up the form a bit and keep pulling
Yeah i think that’s what i’m gonna do man. I like them too much.

Plus i found an old thread surveying people.

Almost all injuries were minor. Some people had none. And the injuries that did occur were people who used bad form or went to heavy.

https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...6402953&page=1
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Originally Posted By BeginnerGainz
That is basically a deadlift with more ego, to me anyway. People can’t program them for reps and good form and almost always try to turn it into an go lift for sets of 1-3 reps above the knee with lots of grunting. Not saying that is what you would do but I see it a lot.

I’ve used the following exercises in its place at one point or another:
Trap bar deadlifts off the floor
Trap bar SLDLs
Back extensions
Hip thrust (on light days)
Good mornings with a Safety bar
Gironda leg curls (google them)
Seated leg curls+High and wide leg presses
Sumo squats
Good post. Things like glute ham raise and band crab walks really helped work out the kinks. Just pounding heavy barbell exercises will reinforce dysfunctional movement patterns and imbalances. Most people ignore this stuff in their 20s and end up paying for it later on.
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Originally Posted By shoelaces
Good post. Things like glute ham raise and band crab walks really helped work out the kinks. Just pounding heavy barbell exercises will reinforce dysfunctional movement patterns and imbalances. Most people ignore this stuff in their 20s and end up paying for it later on.
I disagree though. I’ve been lifting for 10ish years and have never had a serious injury. I’ve also been using barbells. Form and leaving your ego at the door are the keys.
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Hips too low and not locking out all the way

Also just way too much **** around / wasted time between reps
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01
Hips too low and not locking out all the way

Also just way too much **** around / wasted time between reps
Lmaooo. Literally laughed out loud. Thanks dude haha.
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The flexibility in your hips look very stiff. Highly advise foam rolling and doing range of motion exercises to open them up. Besides that, your hip drive looks horrible. Looks like you're driving through the middle and front of your feet, instead of your heels. Either deadlift barefoot or invest in good shoes to conduct deadlifts in.
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1. Those shoes are killing you. No good at all for deds.
Go barefoot would be better or get some chucks etc.
2. Get back on your heels more. Chest up and drive your legs through the floor. You are too far forward.
3. Take that slack out of your arms.
4. Big breath in and hold it at the bottom and keep yourself tight. Exhale at the top of the lift.
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Originally Posted By BrunotheBoxer
1. Those shoes are killing you. No good at all for deds.
Go barefoot would be better or get some chucks etc.
2. Get back on your heels more. Chest up and drive your legs through the floor. You are too far forward.
3. Take that slack out of your arms.
4. Big breath in and hold it at the bottom and keep yourself tight. Exhale at the top of the lift.
Great tips man thanks.
Originally Posted By gmenfan40
The flexibility in your hips look very stiff. Highly advise foam rolling and doing range of motion exercises to open them up. Besides that, your hip drive looks horrible. Looks like you're driving through the middle and front of your feet, instead of your heels. Either deadlift barefoot or invest in good shoes to conduct deadlifts in.
Thanks man will work on that.
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Agreed with hips and not locking out.


Your setup is more akin to that of a clean (see right side of pic). You want to raise your hips a bit higher and make them less parallel to the floor. Aim for the left side.


I would also lower your head position a bit, too. I think it may be fukking with your positioning, so I'd stop staring in the mirror. Aim to look at the floor 5-10 feet in front of you. Below pic is what I'd recommend - keep your neck in line with your back.



I'd also focus on making sure your arms basically act as ropes (keep em loose) and working on your actual motion - I don't think you're using your hamstrings much.

Changing your hip angle should help, but I'd also emphasize moving the bar using a thrusting/humping motion - it's not just pushing your feet against the floor, you also want to bring your hips forward. Dunno that I'm doing a great job explaining this here, but check this Candito video that touches on it, it's only 2.5 minutes.

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Originally Posted By legbroke
Agreed with hips and not locking out.


Your setup is more akin to that of a clean (see right side of pic). You want to raise your hips a bit higher and make them less parallel to the floor. Aim for the left side.


I would also lower your head position a bit, too. I think it may be fukking with your positioning, so I'd stop staring in the mirror. Aim to look at the floor 5-10 feet in front of you. Below pic is what I'd recommend - keep your neck in line with your back.



I'd also focus on making sure your arms basically act as ropes (keep em loose) and working on your actual motion - I don't think you're using your hamstrings much.

Changing your hip angle should help, but I'd also emphasize moving the bar using a thrusting/humping motion - it's not just pushing your feet against the floor, you also want to bring your hips forward. Dunno that I'm doing a great job explaining this here, but check this Candito video that touches on it, it's only 2.5 minutes.

Great post. Thanks man.
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Originally Posted By shoelaces
Heavy deadlifting is not worth it. It is only a matter of time before you fukk up your lower back. I know that is hearsay to say on a bodybuilding forum but it happened to me and countless others. Unless you are a competitive powerlifter I see no reason for it.

I've been doing heavy kettlebell swings instead and it feels so much more natural. As an added bonus I feel a lot lighter on my feet and more explosive. Been doing more stuff with bands, gymnastic rings, kettlebells, weighted clubs, etc instead of just barbell lifting and the movement patterns just feel more natural and smooth.

I lost some size and strength but I feel much sharper and athletic.
Yeah in general I'd advocate a lot more for RDLs than DL off the floor for bodybuilding purposes
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well you know what, when I fail I something. I just substitute it with something easier, so I feel light like a fairy. Bunch of slack jawed *******s in this thread. My only advice is lower the weight, perfect your form. Then keep adding plates *******.
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Originally Posted By irmocool
well you know what, when I fail I something. I just substitute it with something easier, so I feel light like a fairy. Bunch of slack jawed *******s in this thread. My only advice is lower the weight, perfect your form. Then keep adding plates *******.
Thanks *******. Will do *******.
Originally Posted By BigDeeps01
Yeah in general I'd advocate a lot more for RDLs than DL off the floor for bodybuilding purposes
I do deads for functional strength purposes though. Everything else for bodybuilding purpose.
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