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post 1635819793 04-09-2021, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted By TaeBoNinja⏩
https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3dm...r-spraying-him


LOL, so because dude's new car had dark tint and a temporary plate....they treat it as a felony stop? Nor did they tell him why he was even being stopped.
Wow pretty fukked if true.
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Originally Posted By TaeBoNinja⏩
https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3dm...r-spraying-him


LOL, so because dude's new car had dark tint and a temporary plate....they treat it as a felony stop? Nor did they tell him why he was even being stopped.
As suspected, not a reason to get out of the car and not a reason to demand someone to exit their vehicle or detain them. They have a right to check your papers regarding the plates, but that is all....depending on the papers.

Once again taxpayers foot the bill for gross incompetence.
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give the cop a break.... we don't know how long its been since he's shot a non-white person

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Originally Posted By ooph⏩
I agree to an extent. Issue is body cams start with guns drawn. Who knows why... I doubt there was a felony warrant/any warrant which is a usual cause behind guns being drawn early. Makes me think there is some other reason they had their guns drawn. Generally police don't pull you over and pull their guns out and try to get you out of the car at gun point for absolutely no reason. Who knows what information they had that we don't. If there was no reason at all, then yeah that's ****ing retarded, pretty difficult to defend that/support that decision.

Being calm and not aggressive is great, if you're actually complying.This dude was "passively" resisting everything they asked him to do...
"Passively resisting" doesn't exist. It's an oxymoron and impossible. He probably didn't want to reach down for his seatbelt and get shot because he was "reaching for something". He posed absolutely no threat. The cop did nothing except escalate the situation as much as he could.
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post 1635820703 04-09-2021, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted By rockr101⏩
give the cop a break.... we don't know how long its been since he's shot a non-white person

he needs his fix
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“Mistreat.” here’s an idea, fuking comply. These people want to be victims in anyway possible. Hopefully he gets some charges added for his behavior.
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Originally Posted By Reliance012⏩
“Mistreat.” here’s an idea, fuking comply. These people want to be victims in anyway possible. Hopefully he gets some charges added for his behavior.
You sound like one fantastically retarded motherfuker. Negged for being so god damn stupid.
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told dude 100 times to get out of the car....guess directions are hard to follow
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Originally Posted By Lefticle⏩
You sound like one fantastically retarded motherfuker. Negged for being so god damn stupid.
What a clever and articulate one you are.
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Originally Posted By rockr101⏩
give the cop a break.... we don't know how long its been since he's shot a non-white person

he needs his fix
The more of an ******* sounding cop sounded black boyo
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He could have just gotten out of the car srs

I never understood why people make things worse than it needs to be lol
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Originally Posted By SleepWithFan89⏩
He could have just gotten out of the car srs

I never understood why people make things worse than it needs to be lol
Because they want to be a victim and ultimately profit off of it.
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NGL if I was him in that situation, no ****ing way would I put my hands back in the car to unbuckle seatbelt.

95% of the time I support most cops decisions

This is not one of them, that cop was acting like a power tripping piece of chit.
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Maybe memcop can chime in, and I’m sure it’s different state to state, but I believe if an officer asked you to step out of your car you have to comply. You can also lock the car when you do and not allow them entry. Beyond that you don’t have to do anything else (beyond the normal sharing of license and registration).
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Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
NGL if I was him in that situation, no ****ing way would I put my hands back in the car to unbuckle seatbelt.

95% of the time I support most cops decisions

This is not one of them, that cop was acting like a power tripping piece of chit.
Honestly what he did is hard for a guy to do, being yelled at constantly and expecting to comply with something he doesn't have to comply to or face being shot for putting his hands down, but he did everything right and now will win a lawsuit.
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Originally Posted By SleepWithFan89⏩
He could have just gotten out of the car srs

I never understood why people make things worse than it needs to be lol
Some people freeze up. Cop was yelling at him with a gun drawn. Had the cops approached dude without the theatrics, I doubt there would have been an issue.
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Originally Posted By Reliance012⏩
What a clever and articulate one you are.
What a stupid attempt at a comeback lmfao. It really puts your low IQ on full display. You’re defending cops pulling someone over for no reason whatsoever, pointing their guns at him, screaming at him, telling him he should be afraid, escalating this any way they possibly can, etc. I’m happy this fine military gentleman will be suing the living chit out this PD for hiring such a fool.

If you’re a cop, I hope your dumb/incompetent ass gets fired and you’re forced into a life long, unfulfilling, low wage, and depressing career in mall security.
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post 1635827033 04-09-2021, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted By SleepWithFan89⏩
He could have just gotten out of the car srs

I never understood why people make things worse than it needs to be lol
He was worried about living or dying, you could tell by how hesitant he was to even move. He was afraid to release the seat belt over fears that a trigger happy officer would end him.

Mr. Get out of the car seemed extra red bulled and caffinated.
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Misc assuming that policemen have magical powers to know who is a real military officer versus Stolen Valor or a criminal who bought an uniform off Amazon.


In the Vice Article the guy didn't pullover immediately but instead drove to a gas station.
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Originally Posted By Lefticle⏩
What a stupid attempt at a comeback lmfao. It really puts your low IQ on full display. You’re defending cops pulling someone over for no reason whatsoever, pointing their guns at him, screaming at him, telling him he should be afraid, escalating this any way they possibly can, etc. I’m happy this fine military gentleman will be suing the living chit out this PD for hiring such a fool.

If you’re a cop, I hope your dumb/incompetent ass gets fired and you’re forced into a life long, unfulfilling, low wage, and depressing career in mall security.
Low IQ? Real original kid.

He drove for nearly 2 minutes after they first tried to pull him over. He had tint that made seeing his temporary license plate extremely hard. That warrants the aggressive measures they took, especially when he wouldn’t comply subsequently with basic orders. Imagine if everyone used the same excuse. Hey I’m afraid to get out of the car because I’m being racially profiled! I don’t need to follow completely lawful orders. Learn to think.
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Originally Posted By _zman⏩
Hard to comment since we don't know why he was supposed to get out of the car in the first place. Looks like a routine traffic stop, yet the guns are drawn, so something is missing.

The alarming part is why are the cops so aggressive towards someone not showing any aggression, on video anyways.
Originally Posted By Lb54TG⏩
Yea this is why point, I’ve never had to get out of a car for a routine traffic stop, they ask for license and reg. and I imagine if they found something they would come up to my window and ask me to get out.

When the driver was asking them why, the cop couldn’t tell him why, and just yelled out obstruction of justice...uhhh how?
Originally Posted By _zman⏩
I've had cops pull me over. When I said my ID was in the trunk they backed up with their hands on their weapons over a few days overdue plates. It's common here for cops to get you out of your car and ask you to sit in their patrol car as well. I think so they can keep their eyes on you and potentially smell any alcohol on you.

If I were to guess, this is a late night stop where they may have thought alcohol is involved and the first thing they did was to ask him to get out of the vehicle, in which he did not comply and didn't have to. And then they say obstruction of justice, but that would not apply if they had no reason for an arrest in the first place, unless he was driving wrecklessly, but now I'm just assuming things and the video shows nothing...
Originally Posted By _zman⏩
As suspected, not a reason to get out of the car and not a reason to demand someone to exit their vehicle or detain them. They have a right to check your papers regarding the plates, but that is all....depending on the papers.

Once again taxpayers foot the bill for gross incompetence.
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Maybe memcop can chime in, and I’m sure it’s different state to state, but I believe if an officer asked you to step out of your car you have to comply. You can also lock the car when you do and not allow them entry. Beyond that you don’t have to do anything else (beyond the normal sharing of license and registration).
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So the cops in this were definitely unprofessional, no way around that, but the guy should have followed their fully legal commands and gotten out of the car. People always say "I know my rights" when they don't. If you knew your rights, you would be exercising them and allow the police to exercise theirs. Most of the times it's the criminals that have been through the system and have lots of police interactions that know the most about their rights compared to the college educated guy that took some criminal justice / law classes.

For people reading, if an officer tells you to do something, you generally have to do it. Pay attention to when they ask something "You have anything illegal on you? Do you mind if I check?" or "Do you mind getting out of the car?" vs tell you something "Get out of the car". You can exercise your rights for the questions, not for the commands. Not following the commands just escalates the situation for everyone, and actually gives the cop more "ammo" to escalate the detention. You also aren't immediately entitled to the reason for the stop. The report will read something like "During my traffic stop, miscer1 continued to move around in his vehicle despite my commands to keep his hands on his steering wheel. Due to this, I commanded miscer1 to step out of the vehicle so I could continue with the citation process. Miscer1 continued to refuse to get out of the vehicle, and continued to move his hands around in his vehicle.... blah blah blah"
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Originally Posted By ooph⏩
I mean pretty clown cops/****ty interaction. A lot better options there. All he had to do was get out of the ****ing car lmao.

Gave the dude every ****ing option to actually listen. Looks like maybe a FTO and a trainee?
Because if you make any movement the cop deems a threat while getting out of the car he can legally murder you.. you would be afraid too having an unhinged maniac with a weapon on you
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Originally Posted By AgRyan⏩
So the cops in this were definitely unprofessional, no way around that, but the guy should have followed their fully legal commands and gotten out of the car. People always say "I know my rights" when they don't. If you knew your rights, you would be exercising them and allow the police to exercise theirs. Most of the times it's the criminals that have been through the system and have lots of police interactions that know the most about their rights compared to the college educated guy that took some criminal justice / law classes.

For people reading, if an officer tells you to do something, you generally have to do it. Pay attention to when they ask something "You have anything illegal on you? Do you mind if I check?" or "Do you mind getting out of the car?" vs tell you something "Get out of the car". You can exercise your rights for the questions, not for the commands. Not following the commands just escalates the situation for everyone, and actually gives the cop more "ammo" to escalate the detention. You also aren't immediately entitled to the reason for the stop. The report will read something like "During my traffic stop, miscer1 continued to move around in his vehicle despite my commands to keep his hands on his steering wheel. Due to this, I commanded miscer1 to step out of the vehicle so I could continue with the citation process. Miscer1 continued to refuse to get out of the vehicle, and continued to move his hands around in his vehicle.... blah blah blah"
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Originally Posted By Reliance012⏩
Low IQ? Real original kid.

He drove for nearly 2 minutes after they first tried to pull him over. He had tint that made seeing his temporary license plate extremely hard.That warrants the aggressive measures they took, especially when he wouldn’t comply subsequently with basic orders. Imagine if everyone used the same excuse. Hey I’m afraid to get out of the car because I’m being racially profiled! I don’t need to follow completely lawful orders. Learn to think.
No, it doesn't, pal. They should have let him go immediately when they saw the temporary plate after they pulled him over and apologized for the misunderstanding. It's clearly visible in the video. At that point, the excuse they had to pull him over becomes irrelevant. In addition, they gave him conflicting orders. How the fuk are you supposed to hold your hands outside while undoing your seatbelt? He was clearly trying to play it safe whilst these stupid cops were off their rocker. Learn to think.
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not a chance in hell i'd be unbuckling my seatbelt or unlocking my door if I was in that dudes shoes, dude that was yelling was just looking for a reason to shoot him
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Originally Posted By RealAesthetic⏩
not a chance in hell i'd be unbuckling my seatbelt or unlocking my door if I was in that dudes shoes, dude that was yelling was just looking for a reason to shoot him
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