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post 1636841943 04-22-2021, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted By AlwaysFocus⏩
racism
Lol
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Originally Posted By Mountaineer92⏩
in 20 years, americas declined has accelerated at rapid speed.
Thank you Kissinger
Thank you Nixon
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post 1636844563 04-22-2021, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted By iabs⏩
Thank you Kissinger
Thank you Nixon
No, it was 100% Obama. The guy was an America-hating marxist. He brought in all sorts of America-haters with him in 2008. He started purging the bureaucracy and military of those who didn't share his views and secretly putting into place all sorts of policies and rules designed to chip away at social cohesion. The media refused to cover any of it. In 2012, he unleashed all of them to do their worst, once he didn't have to worry about re-election. He also stayed in DC during Trump's administration in order to secretly run the opposition to Trump. He and his people met constantly with the media to set each day's narrative. He played a central role in everything directed at removing Trump from office. We've endured 12 long years of the jug-eared Kenyan marxist working to destroy this country from within and without, and it appears he's also a central figure behind the scenes of this Biden* administration. He hates America. His hatred for America is what defines him. That man should have never been allowed anywhere near the levers of power in this country. The fact that the democRATs gleefully put him in power tells you all you need to know about them.
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post 1636844933 04-22-2021, 12:41 PM
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As a non-american, can you please speak to me in USA english as to what the purpose of this is?
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Originally Posted By MrAWatts⏩
As a DC resident this is good stuff.
when will they learn
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post 1636845263 04-22-2021, 12:45 PM
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Aside from the partisan bs side of this, why would it be bad that DC was its own state? It's always seemed odd to me that it doesn't reside within a state.
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Originally Posted By Bracket199⏩
As a non-american, can you please speak to me in USA english as to what the purpose of this is?
Washington DC is currently not a state. As such, it has no representation in the US Senate. The US Government has two houses of Congress. The House of Representatives (AKA "The House") and the Senate. Each state gets a number of Representatives based on population (California has the most, Wyoming has the least). The House can pass bills on a simple majority (50%, plus 1). THose bills have to be passed by the Senate and also signed by the President to become laws.

Each state gets 2 Senators (100 total). Most laws require a simple majority vote in the Senate to pass (51, or 50 plus the Vice President, who breaks ties in the Senate). Currently in the US, the Senate is 50/50 (Republicans/Democrats).

Washington DC is 95% Democrat. By making it a state, Democrats automatically add 2 Senate seats, giving them a majority (52/50). THey also plan to try adding Puerto Rico as a state, which is also heavily Democrat, giving Democrats a 54/50 advantage.
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post 1636845643 04-22-2021, 12:52 PM
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You know Quasimodo predicted all this
post 1636845773 04-22-2021, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted By Drew23⏩
Washington DC is currently not a state. As such, it has no representation in the US Senate. The US Government has two houses of Congress. The House of Representatives (AKA "The House") and the Senate. Each state gets a number of Representatives based on population (California has the most, Wyoming has the least). The House can pass bills on a simple majority (50%, plus 1). THose bills have to be passed by the Senate and also signed by the President to become laws.

Each state gets 2 Senators (100 total). Most laws require a simple majority vote in the Senate to pass (51, or 50 plus the Vice President, who breaks ties in the Senate). Currently in the US, the Senate is 50/50 (Republicans/Democrats).

Washington DC is 95% Democrat. By making it a state, Democrats automatically add 2 Senate seats, giving them a majority (52/50). THey also plan to try adding Puerto Rico as a state, which is also heavily Democrat, giving Democrats a 54/50 advantage.
Thank you, my friend. Responded as if I knew nothing of politics, so I appreciate all terminology used.

I figured as much the issue would be since it's a heavy Dem state (not even remotely purple) that it will upset people.
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Originally Posted By Bracket199⏩
As a non-american, can you please speak to me in USA english as to what the purpose of this is?
2 more senate seats added. DC is 95% democRAT. Those 2 senate seats will be permanently held by democRATs.

Current senate is 100 seats. Each state gets 2. By adding a state, you raise the total to 102. They want to add Puerto Rico too. That'll be another 2 seats that are permanently democRAT. Right now, the senate is: 48 seats for the democRATs, 2 seats for independents who caucus with the democRATs (they'd be shut out of power if they didn't caucus with one side or the other, but since both independents are socialists or former democRATs, they would only caucus with the democRATs), and 50 seats for the GOP. In other words, the senate is a tie right now. Adding 4 democRAT seats gives them a 54-50 edge.
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Originally Posted By Drew23⏩
Washington DC is currently not a state. As such, it has no representation in the US Senate. The US Government has two houses of Congress. The House of Representatives (AKA "The House") and the Senate. Each state gets a number of Representatives based on population (California has the most, Wyoming has the least). The House can pass bills on a simple majority (50%, plus 1). THose bills have to be passed by the Senate and also signed by the President to become laws.

Each state gets 2 Senators (100 total). Most laws require a simple majority vote in the Senate to pass (51, or 50 plus the Vice President, who breaks ties in the Senate). Currently in the US, the Senate is 50/50 (Republicans/Democrats).

Washington DC is 95% Democrat. By making it a state, Democrats automatically add 2 Senate seats, giving them a majority (52/50). THey also plan to try adding Puerto Rico as a state, which is also heavily Democrat, giving Democrats a 54/50 advantage.
Point of clarification - Wyoming is tied for the least with both Dakotas, Montana, Vermont, and Alaska
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Originally Posted By GuineaDago585⏩
How about instead of making DC a state, we give it back to Maryland? Wouldn’t that make more sense? The flag stays the same. The Senate stays the same, but MD gets more house seats. Everybody wins.
“We” can’t give it back. Maryland and Virginia would have to consent which they have no intention of doing
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Originally Posted By Bracket199⏩
As a non-american, can you please speak to me in USA english as to what the purpose of this is?
DC isn’t a state, therefore has no voice in congress.

This bill would reshape DC to only include federal buildings, and the rest of the area will no longer be DC and become a new state.

Miscers and other people only read headlines, so they think this is making our capitol a state, so they’re against it.
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Originally Posted By navid93⏩
DC isn’t a state, therefore has no voice in congress.

This bill would reshape DC to only include federal buildings, and the rest of the area will no longer be DC and become a new state.

Miscers and other people only read headlines, so they think this is making our capitol a state, so they’re against it.
It doesn't make sense to make it a state, it would make sense to redraw the borders around it (I don't think there needs to be any seat changes) if the issue is really about representation why do they need to add any new seats?... obviously adding new seats is about a power grab, there is no other explanation. It's very clear. Obviously its a power grab for democrats so they support it and republicans don't.
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Originally Posted By jn677⏩
It doesn't make sense to make it a state, it would make sense to redraw the borders around it (I don't think there needs to be any seat changes) if the issue is really about representation why do they need to add any new seats?... obviously adding new seats is about a power grab, there is no other explanation. It's very clear. Obviously its a power grab for democrats so they support it and republicans don't.
What do you mean redraw the borders? They’re redrawing DC so that DC will only be federal buildings (or something close to that) the area where 700,000 people live will become a state. Our nations capital will still not be a state.

I agree that it’s a power move, Republicans would be the ones doing this if it was the other way around and dems would be complaining about it
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
Point of clarification - Wyoming is tied for the least with both Dakotas, Montana, Vermont, and Alaska
Yup, was just trying to keep it brief by giving one example.
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Originally Posted By navid93⏩
What do you mean redraw the borders? They’re redrawing DC so that DC will only be federal buildings (or something close to that) the area where 700,000 people live will become a state. Our nations capital will still not be a state.

I agree that it’s a power move, Republicans would be the ones doing this if it was the other way around and dems would be complaining about it
Why do you need to create a new state that is the size of a few miles? Wouldn't it make way more sense to give that to the adjacent state (maryland?) This is the logical approach which was already stated here, not sure why you didn't understand what I meant? I am assuming you are just being difficult.
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Originally Posted By navid93⏩
What do you mean redraw the borders? They’re redrawing DC so that DC will only be federal buildings (or something close to that) the area where 700,000 people live will become a state. Our nations capital will still not be a state.

I agree that it’s a power move, Republicans would be the ones doing this if it was the other way around and dems would be complaining about it
Republicans has everything for two years but nobody tried to expand the Supreme Court. Nobody tried to make upstate NY a separate state, or Northern California. Republicans wouldn't do this, and the proof is that they didn't do this.
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Originally Posted By navid93⏩
“We” can’t give it back. Maryland and Virginia would have to consent which they have no intention of doing
Virgina took their land back in 1846. That's why DC is only north of the Potomac. The land (69 square miles) it occupies today was all given by Maryland.

http://ontheworldmap.com/usa/city/wa...hington-dc.jpg
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D.C. already has three electoral votes, which is six more than they need.
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Originally Posted By jn677⏩
Why do you need to create a new state that is the size of a few miles? Wouldn't it make way more sense to give that to the adjacent state (maryland?) This is the logical approach which was already stated here, not sure why you didn't understand what I meant? I am assuming you are just being difficult.
No, that’s a thousand times more difficult.

Maryland would have to consent. The federal government doesn’t have the power to make states take more land.
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Originally Posted By MiscInformed⏩
Virgina took their land back in 1846. That's why DC is only north of the Potomac. The land (69 square miles) it occupies today was all given by Maryland.

http://ontheworldmap.com/usa/city/wa...hington-dc.jpg
Didn’t know that, thanks
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Originally Posted By Drew23⏩
Republicans has everything for two years but nobody tried to expand the Supreme Court. Nobody tried to make upstate NY a separate state, or Northern California. Republicans wouldn't do this, and the proof is that they didn't do this.
Those things are different than making existing territories and districts states. The people of upstate New York already have a voice in Congress, in DC they don’t, false comparison
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This won't pass
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Originally Posted By navid93⏩
Those things are different than making existing territories and districts states. The people of upstate New York already have a voice in Congress, in DC they don’t, false comparison
D.C. has representation in Congress. Just not in the Senate.

I live in CT. I have zero representation in Congress. I mean there is no chance of anyone that represents my state ever voting for what I would want.

There are counties in CA that vote 75% Republican. Do you think the two Democrat Senators from California represent them?
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i guess guam, puerto rico, virgin islands and american samoa should get statehood too
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Originally Posted By Drew23⏩
Republicans has everything for two years but nobody tried to expand the Supreme Court. Nobody tried to make upstate NY a separate state, or Northern California. Republicans wouldn't do this, and the proof is that they didn't do this.
They tried to do another CalExit right after Trump got elected. Never underestimate how fascist Democrats can be.
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This won't pass
It shouldn't even be up for discussion. The fact that it is shows the Dems to be the ass grabbing traitors that we all know they are.
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Originally Posted By jn677⏩
Why do you need to create a new state that is the size of a few miles? Wouldn't it make way more sense to give that to the adjacent state (maryland?) This is the logical approach which was already stated here, not sure why you didn't understand what I meant? I am assuming you are just being difficult.
You are talking about Democrats here. The only logical thing to them is do whatever it takes to gain more power.
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