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post 1637051393 04-25-2021, 10:16 AM
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'we are all one consciousness'

Is anyone else repulsed by new agers/idiots that say 'we are all one', 'we are all one consciousness manifesting itself in different ways' etc etc? It's the worst theory of all time that goes against nature itself
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you okay pal?
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you can directly experience this
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i did ******** infusions and saw this first hand. (doesnt work for depression, get on Nardil for that)
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I make it a personal rule to balance out time wasted with hippies to time well spent with sane folks. I love the multi colored hair, but I try to stay away from sex cults. Stay around them long enough and all the spiritual bs ends up just being some sort of sex talk.
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I don't think it's so far fetched. If the Universeallegedlyall came from a single point (big bang), what's so ridiculous about a similar thing applying to consciousness?
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Originally Posted By ninetynine8
Is anyone else repulsed by new agers/idiots that say 'we are all one', 'we are all one consciousness manifesting itself in different ways' etc etc? It's the worst theory of all time that goes against nature itself
i am not a religious type per say, but i do absolutely believe reality is far more complicated then we can perceive and something had to have created it. for that reason i studied up on theoretical physics as a means of trying to understand these types of questions.

from that point of view i believe it is a fair assumption that consciousness is governed by some kind of field, aka virtual photons. the same types of particles that make up electric and magnetic fields. photons are bosons, they have whole number integer spin numbers and can exist all in the same exact quantum state. from that point of view it seems possible that when we die, everyones consciousness would eventually collapse down to the same quantum state, creating a fourier superposition of all consciousness.
Originally Posted By Polaris
I don't think it's so far fetched. If the Universeallegedlyall came from a single point (big bang), what's so ridiculous about a similar thing applying to consciousness?
this. the universe in its state before the big bang occurred could be described as all matter and energy in the entire universe fully projected along the time like axis and space-time.

general relativity also states the no reference frame, aka orientation in space time is more valid than any other. in other words, if you were to observe the universe in the right reference frame you would se that it still exists as a singularity, all matter and energy collapsed down to a point of zero volume.
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you're angered by this idea because your ego is threatened by it and looking to keep you far away from it. And by ego I mean the mentally constructed, personal sense of self "I am a body and mind separate from the All, my name is OP and I'm a ******* who lives in X geographical location and etc etc"


do you even enlightenment bro
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OP sucks consciousness cawk
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Originally Posted By iifymbro
you're angered by this idea because your ego is threatened by it and looking to keep you far away from it. And by ego I mean the mentally constructed, personal sense of self "I am a body and mind separate from the All, my name is OP and I'm a ******* who lives in X geographical location and etc etc"


do you even enlightenment bro
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I don’t think it’s that far of a stretch personally. I just think reality is so complex it’s difficult being the most intelligent species (that we know of) and yet understand very little about our existence. I’m not religious but I do believe in creation, through what route is debatable. Understanding God or creation/even just reality alone is like an earthworm trying to understand Einstein. We aren’t capable of that amount of understanding. Hell, we’re still killing each other over shoes. All I know is I stay away from people who claim they know the unknowable. Anyone who says “____ is 100% how we got here or where we’re going” is going on faith alone or mental.
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Did you just find out about Buddhism OP? Guess what, it's been around for quite a while, long before the new agers.
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I thought it was an interesting read. I found a song I like and someone linked this story. I read it as I listened to the song. It matched up very well. I tried to find the song, but couldn't..sorry. Still, here is the story
The Egg

By: Andy Weir



You were on your way home when you died.

It was a car accident. Nothing particularly remarkable, but fatal nonetheless. You left behind a wife and two children. It was a painless death. The EMTs tried their best to save you, but to no avail. Your body was so utterly shattered you were better off, trust me.

And that’s when you met me.

“What… what happened?” You asked. “Where am I?”

“You died,” I said, matter-of-factly. No point in mincing words.

“There was a… a truck and it was skidding…”

“Yup,” I said.

“I… I died?”

“Yup. But don’t feel bad about it. Everyone dies,” I said.

You looked around. There was nothingness. Just you and me. “What is this place?” You asked. “Is this the afterlife?”

“More or less,” I said.

“Are you god?” You asked.

“Yup,” I replied. “I’m God.”

“My kids… my wife,” you said.

“What about them?”

“Will they be all right?”

“That’s what I like to see,” I said. “You just died and your main concern is for your family. That’s good stuff right there.”

You looked at me with fascination. To you, I didn’t look like God. I just looked like some man. Or possibly a woman. Some vague authority figure, maybe. More of a grammar school teacher than the almighty.

“Don’t worry,” I said. “They’ll be fine. Your kids will remember you as perfect in every way. They didn’t have time to grow contempt for you. Your wife will cry on the outside, but will be secretly relieved. To be fair, your marriage was falling apart. If it’s any consolation, she’ll feel very guilty for feeling relieved.”

“Oh,” you said. “So what happens now? Do I go to heaven or hell or something?”

“Neither,” I said. “You’ll be reincarnated.”

“Ah,” you said. “So the Hindus were right,”

“All religions are right in their own way,” I said. “Walk with me.”

You followed along as we strode through the void. “Where are we going?”

“Nowhere in particular,” I said. “It’s just nice to walk while we talk.”

“So what’s the point, then?” You asked. “When I get reborn, I’ll just be a blank slate, right? A baby. So all my experiences and everything I did in this life won’t matter.”

“Not so!” I said. “You have within you all the knowledge and experiences of all your past lives. You just don’t remember them right now.”

I stopped walking and took you by the shoulders. “Your soul is more magnificent, beautiful, and gigantic than you can possibly imagine. A human mind can only contain a tiny fraction of what you are. It’s like sticking your finger in a glass of water to see if it’s hot or cold. You put a tiny part of yourself into the vessel, and when you bring it back out, you’ve gained all the experiences it had.

“You’ve been in a human for the last 48 years, so you haven’t stretched out yet and felt the rest of your immense consciousness. If we hung out here for long enough, you’d start remembering everything. But there’s no point to doing that between each life.”

“How many times have I been reincarnated, then?”

“Oh lots. Lots and lots. An in to lots of different lives.” I said. “This time around, you’ll be a Chinese peasant girl in 540 AD.”

“Wait, what?” You stammered. “You’re sending me back in time?”

“Well, I guess technically. Time, as you know it, only exists in your universe. Things are different where I come from.”

“Where you come from?” You said.

“Oh sure,” I explained “I come from somewhere. Somewhere else. And there are others like me. I know you’ll want to know what it’s like there, but honestly you wouldn’t understand.”

“Oh,” you said, a little let down. “But wait. If I get reincarnated to other places in time, I could have interacted with myself at some point.”

“Sure. Happens all the time. And with both lives only aware of their own lifespan you don’t even know it’s happening.”

“So what’s the point of it all?”

“Seriously?” I asked. “Seriously? You’re asking me for the meaning of life? Isn’t that a little stereotypical?”

“Well it’s a reasonable question,” you persisted.

I looked you in the eye. “The meaning of life, the reason I made this whole universe, is for you to mature.”

“You mean mankind? You want us to mature?”

“No, just you. I made this whole universe for you. With each new life you grow and mature and become a larger and greater intellect.”

“Just me? What about everyone else?”

“There is no one else,” I said. “In this universe, there’s just you and me.”

You stared blankly at me. “But all the people on earth…”

“All you. Different incarnations of you.”

“Wait. I’m everyone!?”

“Now you’re getting it,” I said, with a congratulatory slap on the back.

“I’m every human being who ever lived?”

“Or who will ever live, yes.”

“I’m Abraham Lincoln?”

“And you’re John Wilkes Booth, too,” I added.

“I’m Hitler?” You said, appalled.

“And you’re the millions he killed.”

“I’m Jesus?”

“And you’re everyone who followed him.”

You fell silent.

“Every time you victimized someone,” I said, “you were victimizing yourself. Every act of kindness you’ve done, you’ve done to yourself. Every happy and sad moment ever experienced by any human was, or will be, experienced by you.”

You thought for a long time.

“Why?” You asked me. “Why do all this?”

“Because someday, you will become like me. Because that’s what you are. You’re one of my kind. You’re my child.”

“Whoa,” you said, incredulous. “You mean I’m a god?”

“No. Not yet. You’re a fetus. You’re still growing. Once you’ve lived every human life throughout all time, you will have grown enough to be born.”

“So the whole universe,” you said, “it’s just…”

“An egg.” I answered. “Now it’s time for you to move on to your next life.”

And I sent you on your way.
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Originally Posted By 4ea
i am not a religious type per say, but i do absolutely believe reality is far more complicated then we can perceive and something had to have created it. for that reason i studied up on theoretical physics as a means of trying to understand these types of questions.

from that point of view i believe it is a fair assumption that consciousness is governed by some kind of field, aka virtual photons. the same types of particles that make up electric and magnetic fields. photons are bosons, they have whole number integer spin numbers and can exist all in the same exact quantum state. from that point of view it seems possible that when we die, everyones consciousness would eventually collapse down to the same quantum state, creating a fourier superposition of all consciousness.



this. the universe in its state before the big bang occurred could be described as all matter and energy in the entire universe fully projected along the time like axis and space-time.

general relativity also states the no reference frame, aka orientation in space time is more valid than any other. in other words, if you were to observe the universe in the right reference frame you would se that it still exists as a singularity, all matter and energy collapsed down to a point of zero volume.
You say something had to have created 'it' yet your theory suggests nothing had to have created it, and if something did create it that consciousness is by definition separate from the singularity
Originally Posted By iifymbro
you're angered by this idea because your ego is threatened by it and looking to keep you far away from it. And by ego I mean the mentally constructed, personal sense of self "I am a body and mind separate from the All, my name is OP and I'm a ******* who lives in X geographical location and etc etc"


do you even enlightenment bro
Uses ego to tell me that I have an ego. Also thinking there's anything wrong with the ego is more new age retardation. Zero ego is literally just depersonalization, which is the goal of the new age.
Originally Posted By EagleOfWar
I don’t think it’s that far of a stretch personally. I just think reality is so complex it’s difficult being the most intelligent species (that we know of) and yet understand very little about our existence. I’m not religious but I do believe in creation, through what route is debatable. Understanding God or creation/even just reality alone is like an earthworm trying to understand Einstein. We aren’t capable of that amount of understanding. Hell, we’re still killing each other over shoes. All I know is I stay away from people who claim they know the unknowable. Anyone who says “____ is 100% how we got here or where we’re going” is going on faith alone or mental.
I'm not an atheist. I just believe the 'one consciousness' world view is one of the worst, least practical AND beneficial views you can have.
Originally Posted By SashaGab
Did you just find out about Buddhism OP? Guess what, it's been around for quite a while, long before the new agers.
Buddhism doesn't say 'we are all one'. Better luck next time lmao, this is exactly my point.
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Originally Posted By ninetynine8
Is anyone else repulsed by new agers/idiots that say 'we are all one', 'we are all one consciousness manifesting itself in different ways' etc etc? It's the worst theory of all time that goes against nature itself
I've def felt something similar to this on dates with Lucy in her Sky with Diamonds. Lots of people feel that everything is connected together.

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Wake up remember
We are born of one breath, one word
Most humans have similar drives and desires or idealised vision for humanity but exactly how we seek to achieve these personally or should on a population level, differ considerably.
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post 1637057323 04-25-2021, 11:50 AM
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aight listen up... i wasnt gonna type this but fuk it you know.

im part of an occult and we have proof/seen it first hand that yes we all connected but best way to explain is that when you sleep and you have a dream
where did this dream come from the people in your dreams are made up ?imaginary but while you sleep this reality is real you made it like a big bang in your head made a lil world to dream of while you sleep

this what we are
we are all connected because we are all one in the same dream made in someone/somethings mind we call it the ''All''
you might call it god but this is not true god did not make this ''dream''
the all . the IT.. made god and god made this

confusing ? its because the real reality is so far beyond your perception that its not even worth trying to understand it
first thing that comes to your mind is that 'ohhh our reality isnt real we are living in a simulation... yes a simulation but who to say its not real whats real and not
this is our simulation of our universe like a computer game there are rules and codes of what you can and can not do
the laws of physics for example.. its a code given to this reality but saying its not real is just ignorant because all we have to compare this to is some movie called matrix and some ****ty games we can make.. they arent real because they are so ****ty but the all can make reality '''as real as it gets

now why did the all made this..... same reason we make a world or dream when we sleep because we can
so then what made the all you might ask ? if it made this then who made it ?
again this is beyond our understanding
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Originally Posted By ninetynine8
You say something had to have created 'it' yet your theory suggests nothing had to have created it
where are you getting that idea from? you been studying einstein physics?

relativity doesnt even attempt to explain how the universe was created, only how it behaves.
Originally Posted By ninetynine8
if something did create it that consciousness is by definition separate from the singularity
yes, of course. but quite frankly i dont think you understand what the word singularity means in this context.

remember what the title of your thread is though. "we are all one consciousness" not "we are all God/creator"
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language is a tool like any other and right now we are abusing the SH IT out of it.

no we are not just "one consciousness"

if everyone died and you were left by yourself on this planet your consciousness would be no fuking different you goddamn pansy
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We're all one. That separateness is an illusion, and that I'm one with everyone--with the Prime Minister of England, and my cousin Harry, you and me, the fat kid from "What's Happening!", The Olsen twins, Natalie Portman, the guy who wrote "Catcher in the Rye," Nat King Cole, Carrot Top, Jay-Z, Weird Al Yankovic, Harry Potter, if he existed, the whore on the street corner, your mother--we're all one.
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consider this

you are playing world of warcraft

you made 1000 accounts

you have the ability to play all 1000 accounts at once but you dont do the same thing over and over as you wanna see what happens if you left instead of right or do this quest but not the other one. you are in control of 1000 accounts but each character has diff path it takes in the game/diff skills.. diff everything and sometimes you even play with a few characters together even tho you are controlling all of them.

now consider this game has auto pilot mode where the characters roam round without you having to control them 100% like when they eat ... poo... workout
you then only take control when you feel like it.

in short we are all connected by the ''all'' but we have our diff traits/skills some are even NPC's (manlets., incels)
this is the reality and the truth
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Originally Posted By mrsloppyfist
consider this

you are playing world of warcraft

you made 1000 accounts

you have the ability to play all 1000 accounts at once but you dont do the same thing over and over as you wanna see what happens if you left instead of right or do this quest but not the other one. you are in control of 1000 accounts but each character has diff path it takes in the game/diff skills.. diff everything and sometimes you even play with a few characters together even tho you are controlling all of them.

now consider this game has auto pilot mode where the characters roam round without you having to control them 100% like when they eat ... poo... workout
you then only take control when you feel like it.

in short we are all connected by the ''all'' but we have our diff traits/skills some are even NPC's (manlets., incels)
this is the reality and the truth
Reality is giant grid search optimisation problem?
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there's literally no way to disprove solipsism... even though pretty much everybody knows its not true

so, basically it's just like "genetics" is used as some sort of end argument. nobody canreallyargue against it cause it's impossible to prove/ disprove
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Originally Posted By backinthegymbro
We're all one. That separateness is an illusion, and that I'm one with everyone--with the Prime Minister of England, and my cousin Harry, you and me, the fat kid from "What's Happening!", The Olsen twins, Natalie Portman, the guy who wrote "Catcher in the Rye," Nat King Cole, Carrot Top, Jay-Z, Weird Al Yankovic, Harry Potter, if he existed, the whore on the street corner, your mother--we're all one.
i dunno bout the rest but the whore on the street corner and your mom are definately the same
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
It’s not solipsism. Solipsism is thinking only you exist.

But this is realizing that you actually don’t really exist at all and that everything is just one field of consciousness.

It’s an experience btw not a theory.
yea, it's just dumb chit. there would be no "realization" if you didn't exist; it's basically taking the only thing you know to exist and saying it doesn't exist

my point was within a point though

you can't prove or disprove anything outside of your brain exists. TECHNICALLY

so, you couldn't prove or disprove everything is "consciousness" is what i'm saying. you could always revert to "how do you prove something outside of your brain exists"?

in summation, you need a brain (your brain) (whether or not that's consciousness) to technically prove something exists

but i really think this is just a shortfall of logic than it is any credible mention of reality. these are the technical nitty gritties, but most everyone normal knows this isn't true.

if there were no fathomable order to reality than stuff like medical industry couldn't exist to help people. you know? if it were all just random then it would be chaos
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Originally Posted By propreffered7
yea, it's just dumb chit. there would be no "realization" if you didn't exist; it's basically taking the only thing you know to exist and saying it doesn't exist

my point was within a point though

you can't prove or disprove anything outside of your brain exists. TECHNICALLY

so, you couldn't prove or disprove everything is "consciousness" is what i'm saying. you could always revert to "how do you prove something outside of your brain exists"?

in summation, you need a brain (your brain) (whether or not that's consciousness) to technically prove something exists

but i really think this is just a shortfall of logic than it is any credible mention of reality. these are the technical nitty gritties, but most everyone normal knows this isn't true.

if there were no fathomable order to reality than stuff like medical industry couldn't exist to help people. you know? if it were all just random then it would be chaos
you can when consciousness aka the ''all'' sends you a interdimensional message so that your peasant brain can understand

happened to me srs
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I mean you can relate with your siblings because you came from the same parents
- they're basically you, a bit different but basically same thing - now go back to the first cell organism when it divided

We're all just a continuing chain reaction of the same event.
So in a sense we're all siblings on this beautiful planet of ours.

Open your eyes and you'll see the truth and the love around you.
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