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post 1640344593 06-07-2021, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted By Hutrapper⏩
And capitalism works so well with population expansion...no incentive to decrease population across the board.

Money has fukked us, unfortunately. No politician is going to win ever on a depopulation platform. We all like paved roads and schools.

And the alternative method of governing (commies, etc) dont work because its chit.
The problem is the political corruption tied to construction contracts. There are too many people in every town and city with a vested interest in inefficient suburban sprawl.

Increasing population density can help to eliminate infrastructure. If you can walk to a grocery store, there is no need to run utilities under a 1/8 or 1/4 mile wide parking lot. The store could also be significantly smaller.

For that to happen, tradies, lawyers, bureaucrats, and banks would all have to give up the up-front cut they get from a project.
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post 1640344973 06-07-2021, 08:55 AM
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Water dams are definitely legit. If they ever find a power to extract energy from lightning then we're set.
post 1640345003 06-07-2021, 08:55 AM
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Apparently OP is to dumb to know the difference between "Green Energy" and electric cars.
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post 1640345353 06-07-2021, 09:00 AM
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That's like trying to explain the definition of insanity to someone who's literally insane.
post 1640345873 06-07-2021, 09:08 AM
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Give millennials and gen Z what they want: cars that they dont actually have to drive (autopilot), or at least gives them peace of mind that they arent contributing to air pollution by driving back and forth to mcdonalds while they consoom their beyond meat hamburgers and chicken sandwiches. The generation that will sacrifice practical utility in order to be forward thinking and utilitarian for the future of the planet. That's what I think it's really about, and the capitalists investing billions to develop everything from commercial solar panels, to EVs (pardon the false equivalency) are just pioneering this sociological transition from a consumer psychology standpoint, as they have always done throughout the evolution of modern civilization.
post 1640346603 06-07-2021, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted By Barteh⏩
Water dams are definitely legit. If they ever find a power to extract energy from lightning then we're set.
They did years ago at 1.33

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AM5EYO5wWMA
post 1640346713 06-07-2021, 09:24 AM
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Even if you stupidly believe CO2 is a problem, electric cars overall have the same carbon footprint as ICE cars

Absolute joke and purely virtue signaling
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post 1640346883 06-07-2021, 09:27 AM
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Lol at how fking stupid miscers are

Also strong sources
post 1640346943 06-07-2021, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted By HYDRAE⏩
Apparently OP is to dumb to know the difference between "Green Energy" and electric cars.
They're part of the green equation *******.
post 1640347023 06-07-2021, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted By Masterchieffer⏩
Lol at how fking stupid miscers are

Also strong sources
Strong arguments, enlighten us *******.
post 1640347223 06-07-2021, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
They're part of the green equation *******.
Electric cars can run just fine on electrons generated from fossil fuel.
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post 1640347383 06-07-2021, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
But yeah, Africa and India are the biggest problem. They will have a baby boom the coming decades.
they might be having more kids but the Yanks are eating all the fckn food!
post 1640348233 06-07-2021, 09:48 AM
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post 1640348773 06-07-2021, 09:58 AM
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Tech regarding battery technology, renewable resources is parabolic.

I think they will figure it out, it advances so rapidly. 13-15 years ago Indie companies were retrofitting electric motors into cars now we are having multiple companies mass producing cars that can go 4-600 miles on a single charge with massive amounts of tech and creature comforts.
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post 1640348993 06-07-2021, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted By OntheClockNE⏩
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Back to topic tho, you know why we don't recycle batteries?

There's no call for it. "used" batteries are sold second hand for car conversions, and they go for big money.

Or they get turned into home energy storage, decentralising the grid and allowing us to store the energy that renewables create, but we lose as currently we have no mass storage.

40kwh batteries in 10 million cars in the UK gives us enough storage to power every home.

Vehicle to grid allows us to access it.

It's so ****ing simple and obvious how renewables work, and how EVs are part of it.

As for the batteries, you think we'll still have the same type of battery in 15 years?

Look at the first 10 years of the phone, then increase the potential by the amount of manufacturers cash.
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post 1640349233 06-07-2021, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted By ChrisLS8⏩
Tech regarding battery technology, renewable resources is parabolic.

I think they will figure it out, it advances so rapidly. 13-15 years ago Indie companies were retrofitting electric motors into cars now we are having multiple companies mass producing cars that can go 4-600 miles on a single charge with massive amounts of tech and creature comforts.
That's true if tech keeps evolving.

Only recently I heard about a graphene/aluminium battery. Would charge extremely fast, cheap to make, good power density,...

Company is graphene manufacturing group.
post 1640349313 06-07-2021, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted By HYDRAE⏩
Electric cars can run just fine on electrons generated from fossil fuel.
Sure but doesn't really make electric cars "green" now does it. Hence me saying it's still a joke.
post 1640349813 06-07-2021, 10:15 AM
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Wind and Solar are great options.
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post 1640350093 06-07-2021, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted By jackamo2887⏩
Wind and Solar are great options.
Not yet. Also no way of recycling solar panels and wind turbines, both full of rare metals.
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Originally Posted By jackamo2887⏩
Wind and Solar are great options.
not even close

both are totally intermittent/unreliable and worse for the environment than their petroleum equivalents; plus, they cost more per KWh without subsidies
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post 1640350383 06-07-2021, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
not even close

both are totally intermittent/unreliable and worse for the environment than their petroleum equivalents; plus, they cost more per KWh without subsidies
You have given out too much Reputation in the last 24 hours, try again later.

Geo thermal is the only good green alternative that's available 24/7 and it's finally becoming a real possibility because drilling technology has improved immensely in the last 10 years

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We gotta get back to horse and carriage. It's the only 'green' way.
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post 1640350593 06-07-2021, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
You have given out too much Reputation in the last 24 hours, try again later.

Geo thermal is the only good green alternative that's available 24/7 and it's finally becoming a real possibility because drilling technology has improved immensely in the last 10 years

solar is the most obvious one if the technology/material science ever gets to the point where we can harvest and store the "free energy" in a legit way

i bet we're 50 years from that though

the reason why you mentioning electric cars is so important is the effect they have on the grid since they mostly charge overnight (due to how slow and inconvenient it is for the average person), thus straining the grid at a time when solar isn't producing

CA is gonna have an ever-increasing number of blackouts as a result

the one good thing they do is outsource the pollution from where you live to somewhere else. a city with all electric (which I'm sure will be mandated around the world in the coming years in various places) can breathe clean air while their pollution is in the countries where the rare earths/cobalt etc. are mined and where the coal/gas are burned to generate their electricity

realistically though, there simply isn't enough cobalt, lithium, neodymium, dysprosium etc. on earth to do the EV/solar/wind bullchit they're planning. the whole world is gonna be strip-mined in order for some gay libs to virtue signal on the way to work
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Originally Posted By lightsarefallin⏩
We gotta get back to horse and carriage. It's the only 'green' way.
hoofed animal farts are destroying the planet bruh. Dog sleds is the only logical solution.
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Originally Posted By HYDRAE⏩
hoofed animal farts are destroying the planet bruh. Dog sleds is the only logical solution.
they are legit developing cow masks to capture the methane from ruminant belches srs

can u imagine
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
they are legit developing cow masks to capture the methane from ruminant belches srs

can u imagine
Imagine a field full of Hannibal Lecter cows as you drive by.
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
they are legit developing cow masks to capture the methane from ruminant belches srs

can u imagine
Another lie from the green cult.

Great short docu everyone should watch:

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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
tr pollution is in the countries where the rare earths/cobalt etc. are mined and where the coal/gas are burned to generate their electricity

r
actually electric cars do reduce emissions because its much easier to prevent/reduce/capture the emissions at one point i.e. the factory than millions of separate points spread everywhere i.e the Cars/Vehicles
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
not even close

both are totally intermittent/unreliable and worse for the environment than their petroleum equivalents; plus, they cost more per KWh without subsidies
Why don't you shut your God damn fish mouth
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Originally Posted By CBRIT89⏩
Renewables and green energy are not electric cars.

I work in the industry. Do some research instead of believing stupid memes.
This x1000

Replacing millions of gas powered cars with millions of eletrcir cars is just retarded from an ecolgycal perspective.
Since it won't solve the mobility nor the pollution issue it's just a strategy to further enrich the auto industry

A real solution would be to move towards clean energy efficient public transport and clean energy production
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