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Rome enslaved everyone they didn't care about skin color.

Indentured servants were slaves too in America. Debtors prisons were rampant in Europe and colonial empires. Lots of white legal slavery from non-muslims.

Oh and I learned about all that in 4th grade. Did they stop teaching it because critical race theory says only black people were slaves?
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Originally Posted By EagleOfWar
I . the USA is the least racist and most tolerant country there is in existence. Id .
The UK is far more tolerant, less divisive and less racist than the USA
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Lol mogged by Japan? LMAO.

Dude, Japan would get crushed like a fkn ant by China, lmaoooo.
But that's something that would never happen. Us asians do not fight one another. We are a top tier race.

All of NATO with their stolen land and resources can't even mog China.
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What do you mean we don't learn about it OP?

Learned all about various slave trades in school. There are all sorts of movies and documentaries about it too.
Never had any world history classes etc?
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Originally Posted By donkeydonger
Because it's basically ancient history, which isn't taught at the middle school or highschool level. Stuff that old is typically stuff you research on your own or get a degree in history to learn about. I think it's mostly because it really don't affect anyone today where as things that happened in the past 300 years are still affecting people in a real way today.
The only way black people nowadays are affected by slavery are if they can use it to play the victim. Strong cope
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Originally Posted By Kev1972
Rome enslaved everyone they didn't care about skin color.

Indentured servants were slaves too in America. Debtors prisons were rampant in Europe and colonial empires. Lots of white legal slavery from non-muslims.

Oh and I learned about all that in 4th grade. Did they stop teaching it because critical race theory says only black people were slaves?
Now that you mentioned it debtors prisons may solve a lot of our current issues.
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Originally Posted By Autumnal
The same reason we pretend that black people are held back from ever making it due to a history of slavery and lack of generational wealth despite my Italian mom coming to America from a village of 1500 people who wore rags, getting her associate's degree, and having a suburban home and fancy car, and her sons are also successful. The majority of our family on my mom's side are rather successful, up to being in the 1% with no real benefits besides growing up in a supportive Italian community opposed to a ghetto where people shot each other and blasted rap music.

But apparently all the hidden systemic racism is preventing these people from also attending free public education, getting student loans, going to college, picking a worthwhile degree, and working towards something. Apparently the difference between white and dark skin is so powerful that these things are not analogous, even though Italian Americans were historically discriminated against as well.
Idk brah, my Dad immigrated to Canada from a farming village and now I'm a lawyer. I always get treated like I've done something wrong when I go to Court and when I interact with the Judge.
It's like they expect me to phuck up or something (srs).
Makes me feel like I started off the game with 75% HP or something. and the nonstop bashing of my race in the media doesn't help either.
Humans tend to lump everyone into categories and I get painted like I'm a random brown boy that deals drugs and shiet when I'm not.
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Originally Posted By Kev1972
Rome enslaved everyone they didn't care about skin color.

Indentured servants were slaves too in America. Debtors prisons were rampant in Europe and colonial empires. Lots of white legal slavery from non-muslims.

Oh and I learned about all that in 4th grade. Did they stop teaching it because critical race theory says only black people were slaves?
Yes
In the social media era (post 2012) only minorities can be slaves and discriminated against because whites hold the dominant position or some chit
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Originally Posted By N0stradamus
The Ottoman Empire demanded yearly tribute of young women for their harems and young boys for their armies.

The Vikings took Celtic slaves and sold them to Arab traders.

The Romans massacred and pretty much enslaved all of Gaul.

The Spartans (Dorians) enslaved their fellow Greeks, the Mycenaeans, who were the original inhabitants of Laconia and Sparta before the Dorian invasion. The Spartans during Leonidas' time are not the same Spartans during the Trojan War days, those Spartans were Mycenaeans, Leonidas' Spartans were Dorians.

White slavery is nothing new.
Blacks owned slaves but that fact goes against the current leftist agenda.
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Originally Posted By SikhAndDestroy
Idk brah, my Dad immigrated to Canada from a farming village and now I'm a lawyer. I always get treated like I've done something wrong when I go to Court and when I interact with the Judge.
It's like they expect me to phuck up or something (srs).
Makes me feel like I started off the game with 75% HP or something. and the nonstop bashing of my race in the media doesn't help either.
Humans tend to lump everyone into categories and I get painted like I'm a random brown boy that deals drugs and shiet when I'm not.
Sorry to hear it brah. Is it 100% because of your race though? Not to say that it couldn't be and it probably is, but everyone deals with some annoying chit. It's obnoxious to have to deal with but honestly it's life. I went to college in a Southern city that was basically a big college town surrounded by slums, black people would often tip me like chit, ignore me when I spoke to them, etc. and the only reason I could ever tell was because of my race because they never did it to black people. This was in an area with a ton of black people, maybe 50/50 or greater once you remove the college kids, so in my professional life I dealt with a lot of obnoxious chit because of the color of my skin, including gangbangers threatening to kill me when I was just doing my job as a nurse. For some reason a lot of ghetto people loved to just outright ignore your existence when they came to you for a service.

There are always some people that are going to be haters or scornful of you or whatever. I would hate to have my culture lumped in with thugs portrayed in the media the same way that I hate how my race is being demonized by a vocal minority of rabid crayon-colored hair leftists (not as big of a problem as racism towards brown/black people comparatively but it is pretty damn annoying). The end of the day both are small groups of people that know how to get into our heads and annoy us and focus on their negativity. All we can really do is put it in perspective and think, fuark, at least you've made it as a lawyer either way brah.
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I think we all know that answer. This country has been taken over by a certain group that wants to flip the country on it's head. By any means necessary
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Firstly because white slaves were enslaved by ...... yes, other white people lmao

And secondly, cuz fukk em that’s why!
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Originally Posted By donkeydonger
Because it's basically ancient history, which isn't taught at the middle school or highschool level. Stuff that old is typically stuff you research on your own or get a degree in history to learn about. I think it's mostly because it really don't affect anyone today where as things that happened in the past 300 years are still affecting people in a real way today.
Slavery isn't affecting anyone in American today.
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Firstly because white slaves were enslaved by ...... yes, other white people lmao

And secondly, cuz fukk em that’s why!
The first slave owner in the US was a black man. He literally set the stage for slavery. Another black man named Nat Butler regularly bought and sold slaves for profit in America.

No, this history isn't taught in many of today's schools because it doesn't fit the narrative. It's mostly by choice of the teachers
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Originally Posted By moosik85
How Britain, America and France ended it
Or
How it had magnitudes more people then the Atlantic slave trade?

https://xyz.net.au/2021/07/the-forgotten-slaves/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whit...ry_slave_trade

Where’s my reparations?
Wouldn't it be because the various school boards and board of education for each of the 50 states sets the curriculum, ultimately making them the decider?
Wouldn't it be because that same school board buys the books from publishers that contains what they want in said books?
So i would chalk it up to the state school board.
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Originally Posted By MiniManletBrah
Firstly because white slaves were enslaved by ...... yes, other white people lmao

And secondly, cuz fukk em that’s why!
Barbary/Ottoman Corsairs were white?
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Black slavery, black oppression, Japanese and Chinese oppression and enslavement/internment camps........is American history.

That's the only reason why. Why would we learn about slavery elsewhere if the class is called American history you dolt?

We also teach the progress of America......its never solely focused on slavery however, one of the biggest more prominent actions in American history is the 100's of years of slavery.......

Why are you turning this into a comparison thread?



Why don't we ban guns like Aussies then?
Why don't we take cops guns like UK then?
Why don't we do what everyone else does then?

Shut the fuk up and get the fuk on with this childish rhetoric and go get your ba-ba and paci and take a nap.
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Originally Posted By Polaris
Barbary/Ottoman Corsairs were white?
They were North African and Muslim. You decide if they were white or not.
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Originally Posted By AlwaysFocus
Lets learn about who sold slaves to America
That's a part of it yes.....but that doesn't detour the fact that whites had it in their minds that people of other colors were not them nor close to them in intelligence, manors, socializing, and other ways.

Slaves were former tribes beaten by competing tribes that sold them to whites......but whites also kidnapped and enslaved many more......

This is the same logic that if a girl is wearing a whores uniform its ok to grope and touch......she was asking for it bruh! right? amirite?



Also you're from Canada, stfu until you get your natives issues cleaned up eh?
Why not take care of the people you took land from eh?
Why not educate them eh?
Get them off drugs and booze that you gave them eh?
Where they homeless and always wasted before your people came there eh?
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It is amazing at how many white European slaves were taken to Africa. Ive seen it mentioned that twice as many white people were used as slaves in Africa compared to black people taken to the Americas. Little is mentioned on it. It wasn't a topic I recall learning in school. It was only after reading some of Thomas Sowell's books that I learned about that part of history.
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The most important lesson to be learned here is that people aren't enslaved because of their skin color, which is what liberals indoctrinate people to believe, but instead it's because of a vulnerability. For instance, a lack of education and weak character are the two biggest reasons a people are enslaved. Enslavement can come in many forms, like serfdom.

If that doesn't wake you up, nothing will
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What most people don't understand is that the business of slavery is primarily dependent on native peoples who are complicit in enslaving their own people.

* Arab traders rarely would ever travel all the way to Europe to capture slaves, they had trade networks with Europeans slavers (Vikings, Romans) that sold them White slaves.

* European slavers didn't travel into the heart of Africa to capture slaves, they bought them from native Africans who captured other Africans from rival tribes.

* The Ottomans demanded the nobles of European vassal states to provide them with young girls and boys taken from the peasant class, these nobles willingly did it because the Ottomans provided them with political, financial and military support against their European rivals inside their nations or from other European nations.


In the business of slavery, it's not about race, it's about profit. As we can see from history, people are willing to sell their own into slavery for profit. But it's inconvenient for the race peddlers to talk about the specifics of slavery because it doesn't feed the narrative that race A is bad because they enslaved race B.
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Originally Posted By JPF82
Black slavery, black oppression, Japanese and Chinese oppression and enslavement/internment camps........is American history.

That's the only reason why. Why would we learn about slavery elsewhere if the class is called American history you dolt?

We also teach the progress of America......its never solely focused on slavery however, one of the biggest more prominent actions in American history is the 100's of years of slavery.......

Why are you turning this into a comparison thread?



Why don't we ban guns like Aussies then?
Why don't we take cops guns like UK then?
Why don't we do what everyone else does then?

Shut the fuk up and get the fuk on with this childish rhetoric and go get your ba-ba and paci and take a nap.
I will also add that throughout history classes many people were taught about indentured servitude. Whites, primarily Irish and Italians, were indentured servants and lived just as humble as many freed slaves.

Regarding slavery OP chattel slavery, in which slaves were treated, bought, and sold like property was unique to the Transatlantic Slave Trade. Yes slavery existed in other civilizations for example in Rome, but slaves there could own property, acquire education and citizenship. They were also not subjugated to the harsh treatment that occurred under chattel slavery.

For what it's worth OP slave owners (white obviously) were compensated for "loss of property" after the Civil War. Essentially former slave owners got reparations under the Compensated Emancipation Act me.

I feel if the United States perhaps compensated African Americans like they did other groups that we wouldn't be having this conversations on Critical Race Theory because many of us would be able to form our own economy and communities but instead the past century we had to go through racial violence/terrorism in many forms up until this day.
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Originally Posted By N0stradamus
What most people don't understand is that the business of slavery is primarily dependent on native peoples who are complicit in enslaving their own people.

* Arab traders rarely would ever travel all the way to Europe to capture slaves, they had trade networks with Europeans slavers (Vikings, Romans) that sold them White slaves.

* European slavers didn't travel into the heart of Africa to capture slaves, they bought them from native Africans who captured other Africans from rival tribes.

* The Ottomans demanded the nobles of European vassal states to provide them with young girls and boys, these nobles willingly did it because the Ottomans provided them with political, financial and military support against their European rivals inside their nations or from other European nations.


In the business of slavery, it's not about race, it's about profit. As we can see from history, people are willing to sell their own into slavery for profit. But it's inconvenient for the race peddlers to talk about the specifics of slavery because it doesn't feed the narrative that race A is bad because they enslaved race B.
Yeah, it comes down to the why on all sides; The buyer, the seller, and the slave. We look at self interest of all parties and it opens up a world of true understanding.

Transactions in which there are more than two parties are never good, like government, buyer, and seller. It messes up the value system. In slavery, its the value of human life. In economics, its the value of the goods or services. The value is always diminished with the third party. Unions are the same. I believe that three party transactions almost always lead to unethical and/or immoral results.
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Originally Posted By sword_
I will also add that throughout history classes many people were taught about indentured servitude. Whites, primarily Irish and Italians, were indentured servants and lived just as humble as many freed slaves.

Regarding slavery OP chattel slavery, in which slaves were treated, bought, and sold like property was unique to the Transatlantic Slave Trade. Yes slavery existed in other civilizations for example in Rome, but slaves there could own property, acquire education and citizenship. They were also not subjugated to the harsh treatment that occurred under chattel slavery.
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It's very dishonest to act like that's unique to the Transatlantic slave trade. Barbary Slave trade (which is primarily what OP was referring to) included castration, galley slaves, etc etc

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Originally Posted By Polaris
It's very dishonest to act like that's unique to the Transatlantic slave trade. Barbary Slave trade (which is primarily what OP was referring to) included castration, galley slaves, etc etc

Honestly didn't know about chattel slavery in these parts done to Europeans srs.

I learned forms of European slavery in the form of indentured servitude and being a second class citizenship in a society.

I believe OP is still trying to push against the notion of reparations for African Americans and while slavery has been experienced throughout human history, the story of slavery is something that is part of our history.


Side note regarding history - I learned more about some of my own family history and discovered one of my ancestors was a slave in Spain in the early 1800s. Back then those slaves could ascend into society and become a citizen, own property, get their freedom etc if they adopted Catholicism and took on their slave owner's name.
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Originally Posted By JPF82
Also you're from Canada, stfu until you get your natives issues cleaned up eh?
Why not take care of the people you took land from eh?
Why not educate them eh?
Get them off drugs and booze that you gave them eh?
Where they homeless and always wasted before your people came there eh?
Yeah! They were getting along just fine until that meddling white man barged in and freed their slaves.
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Originally Posted By AncientYouth
The UK is far more tolerant, less divisive and less racist than the USA
At 87.2% white, the UQ is far more homogeneous than the US.
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What does Barbary piracy and slave trading have to do with American slavery? Does that somehow make it better or ok?
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Originally Posted By Autumnal
The same reason we pretend that black people are held back from ever making it due to a history of slavery and lack of generational wealth despite my Italian mom coming to America from a village of 1500 people who wore rags, getting her associate's degree, and having a suburban home and fancy car, and her sons are also successful. The majority of our family on my mom's side are rather successful, up to being in the 1% with no real benefits besides growing up in a supportive Italian community opposed to a ghetto where people shot each other and blasted rap music.

But apparently all the hidden systemic racism is preventing these people from also attending free public education, getting student loans, going to college, picking a worthwhile degree, and working towards something. Apparently the difference between white and dark skin is so powerful that these things are not analogous, even though Italian Americans were historically discriminated against as well.
Which woukd lead us to conclude that it is actually a white supremacist tool which has fulfilled its purpose, yes?
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