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07-10-2021, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted By Kewbrah⏩
Lmfao. Cancer knocking out young people like flies but let's focus all our resources and energy on a cold. Power and money > health of the people let's be serious. Lol @ them trying to act like they care about people dying.I actually work in a health statistics field.
So far in 2021:
1 death from covid (caught last year): 24/7 coverage, lockdowns, hard borders between states, Australian citizens not allowed to return to the country
80,000 deaths from other causes: crickets
So far in 2021:
1 death from covid (caught last year): 24/7 coverage, lockdowns, hard borders between states, Australian citizens not allowed to return to the country
80,000 deaths from other causes: crickets
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Originally Posted By guideX⏩
You cannot eliminate a highly contagious and long-lasting respiratory virus by limited lockdowns or especially limited lockdowns in one country. It simply does not happen. It can and will only slow the spread.The problem really is that the NSW state (Sydney) Government didn't get their **** in order.
Australia's goal is virus elimination NOT suppression.One state can't deviate from the norm otherwise they cop hard borders with everyone. We can argue about the merits of that all we want but national cabinet has made up its mind; elimination is the goal.
It's widely established now that when you have multiple cases in a day that aren't from a single household, you do a statewide lockdown. You don't wait and chance it you ****ing act (see VIC, WA, QLD, NT over the past year).
Gladys armed with Scotty from marketing's 'gold standard' BS rhetoric decided to try and beat the new delta strain despite not knowing anything about it and just thought last years model would work. What a cluster. Worse, she's still touting 'elimination' while her own idiot MP's try to defy her because the experts are saying lockdowns until September are likely.
The real tragedy in this is that people will forget about the ineptness of the Government come next election and vote for the party with empty 'great for business' rhetoric. That's what happens when you have an individualistic society without any sense of community. Everyone thinks they'll make it by riding the 'good for business' Government's policies without realizing those same policies only narrow the parameters for improving your standard of living. It's all false hope touted by the top 5% who spend their days laughing at the masses (yes bros from their balconies). Tragedy of the commons.
Australia's goal is virus elimination NOT suppression.One state can't deviate from the norm otherwise they cop hard borders with everyone. We can argue about the merits of that all we want but national cabinet has made up its mind; elimination is the goal.
It's widely established now that when you have multiple cases in a day that aren't from a single household, you do a statewide lockdown. You don't wait and chance it you ****ing act (see VIC, WA, QLD, NT over the past year).
Gladys armed with Scotty from marketing's 'gold standard' BS rhetoric decided to try and beat the new delta strain despite not knowing anything about it and just thought last years model would work. What a cluster. Worse, she's still touting 'elimination' while her own idiot MP's try to defy her because the experts are saying lockdowns until September are likely.
The real tragedy in this is that people will forget about the ineptness of the Government come next election and vote for the party with empty 'great for business' rhetoric. That's what happens when you have an individualistic society without any sense of community. Everyone thinks they'll make it by riding the 'good for business' Government's policies without realizing those same policies only narrow the parameters for improving your standard of living. It's all false hope touted by the top 5% who spend their days laughing at the masses (yes bros from their balconies). Tragedy of the commons.
The lockdowns are about government controlling people, not about controlling a virus.
Limited lockdowns are only useful short term and then only for the purpose of 'slowing the spread' and 'flattening the curve' in extreme and isolated cases on a time and distance-limited basis so that healthcare does not become overburdened beyond its capacity which would cause lack of proper treatment of cases and worsened outcomes.
'15 days to slow the spread' became 15 months of pure BS.
Limited lockdowns in the situation where it it likely that healthcare will be badly overburdened - rational
Advising those at highest risk to take extra precautions - rational
Doing excessive overburdening, economically harmful and individually-harmful lockdowns for no true healthcare reasons - irrational ... until you understand it's not about that at all and instead about ulterior motives.
07-10-2021, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
Like I asked the other cultists, can you show any evidence I ever said the left wing media was infallible or immune to propaganda?Qft. Lmao at him now questioning the media. I guess he finally eaten enough chit.
I think you'll find I did no such thing, rather what I did was argue for the existence of the propaganda feedback loop and say there is a structural difference between the left and right wing media ecosystems.
Back off, Warchild.
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07-10-2021, 10:31 PM
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Remember when OP was constantly posting links to fake studies and claiming "tHeRe iS nO MeDia BiAs"
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should have given every adult in the world a preventative dose of ivermectin for weeks when it first came out and this chit would be over by now
07-11-2021, 05:10 AM
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07-11-2021, 05:45 AM
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One of the least affected countries yet the most vigorous campaigns. "Half a century" instead of saying 50. Saying: "Thousands may die" when in 1.5-2 years 912 have died - and that's inflated with overseas travelers and people who are on death's bed already.
Every news outlet trying to make it sound like a VHS episode. Celebrities and all media spokepeople too worried to say anything contrary.
Zero or 1 people have died this year @ 9% vaccination rates yet they want 75%? ROFL.
Now there are talks about having mandates for certain working sectors. IT'S NOT EVEN KILLING ANYONE, 50 cases and it's an "outbreak".
ICUs are FINE, 50/25,000,000.
The problem is they keep saying "Eliminate Covid". You don't, you can't. You live with it like other flu strains. Entering full tyranny mode, cops @ malls just waiting to fine anyone with a mask.
Even states with ZEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO cases. ZEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO deaths in nearly a year have restrictions.
Reading some of the Aussie youtube comments, thankfully most seem to be aware of this. It's going to reach critical mass though, so many people will be permanently screwed with no work, it can't go on like this. The government eventually will have to be held accountable, it will take one brave popular person to spearhead.
They want to jab young healthy bodies twice a year. Fuking scum.
It's spread like other flus because it's LOW VIRULENCE. The host is nearly ALWAYS going to live. And they think they can "eliminate". rofl. Viruses are constantly mutating, you live with them.
Every news outlet trying to make it sound like a VHS episode. Celebrities and all media spokepeople too worried to say anything contrary.
Zero or 1 people have died this year @ 9% vaccination rates yet they want 75%? ROFL.
Now there are talks about having mandates for certain working sectors. IT'S NOT EVEN KILLING ANYONE, 50 cases and it's an "outbreak".
ICUs are FINE, 50/25,000,000.
The problem is they keep saying "Eliminate Covid". You don't, you can't. You live with it like other flu strains. Entering full tyranny mode, cops @ malls just waiting to fine anyone with a mask.
Even states with ZEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO cases. ZEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO deaths in nearly a year have restrictions.
Reading some of the Aussie youtube comments, thankfully most seem to be aware of this. It's going to reach critical mass though, so many people will be permanently screwed with no work, it can't go on like this. The government eventually will have to be held accountable, it will take one brave popular person to spearhead.
They want to jab young healthy bodies twice a year. Fuking scum.
It's spread like other flus because it's LOW VIRULENCE. The host is nearly ALWAYS going to live. And they think they can "eliminate". rofl. Viruses are constantly mutating, you live with them.
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07-11-2021, 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted By foXs⏩
did you see they caught the virus on friday, but then they said she died on Saturday. The next day, really? Did she have ****ing pneumonia already or something? were they so desperate for a "i told you so" death for their propaganda.You're wrong OP. 1 person died, in their 90s.
Fuking clown world.
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07-11-2021, 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted By guideX⏩
Outside of Covid, NSW has been booming. Never seen so many schools, roads and infrastructure being built in my 30 years of hard Labor state govtsThe problem really is that the NSW state (Sydney) Government didn't get their **** in order.
Australia's goal is virus elimination NOT suppression. One state can't deviate from the norm otherwise they cop hard borders with everyone. We can argue about the merits of that all we want but national cabinet has made up its mind; elimination is the goal.
It's widely established now that when you have multiple cases in a day that aren't from a single household, you do a statewide lockdown. You don't wait and chance it you ****ing act (see VIC, WA, QLD, NT over the past year).
Gladys armed with Scotty from marketing's 'gold standard' BS rhetoric decided to try and beat the new delta strain despite not knowing anything about it and just thought last years model would work. What a cluster. Worse, she's still touting 'elimination' while her own idiot MP's try to defy her because the experts are saying lockdowns until September are likely.
The real tragedy in this is that people will forget about the ineptness of the Government come next election and vote for the party with empty 'great for business' rhetoric. That's what happens when you have an individualistic society without any sense of community. Everyone thinks they'll make it by riding the 'good for business' Government's policies without realizing those same policies only narrow the parameters for improving your standard of living. It's all false hope touted by the top 5% who spend their days laughing at the masses (yes bros from their balconies). Tragedy of the commons.
Australia's goal is virus elimination NOT suppression. One state can't deviate from the norm otherwise they cop hard borders with everyone. We can argue about the merits of that all we want but national cabinet has made up its mind; elimination is the goal.
It's widely established now that when you have multiple cases in a day that aren't from a single household, you do a statewide lockdown. You don't wait and chance it you ****ing act (see VIC, WA, QLD, NT over the past year).
Gladys armed with Scotty from marketing's 'gold standard' BS rhetoric decided to try and beat the new delta strain despite not knowing anything about it and just thought last years model would work. What a cluster. Worse, she's still touting 'elimination' while her own idiot MP's try to defy her because the experts are saying lockdowns until September are likely.
The real tragedy in this is that people will forget about the ineptness of the Government come next election and vote for the party with empty 'great for business' rhetoric. That's what happens when you have an individualistic society without any sense of community. Everyone thinks they'll make it by riding the 'good for business' Government's policies without realizing those same policies only narrow the parameters for improving your standard of living. It's all false hope touted by the top 5% who spend their days laughing at the masses (yes bros from their balconies). Tragedy of the commons.
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07-11-2021, 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted By guideX⏩
People in all governments have said all kinds of random and contradictory things over the past 18 months. But elimination has never been the stated goal of the federal government. The 4 stage plan they released a couple of days ago ends with us living with the virus.I agree with the points in your post, save the point about not eliminating a virus since we have eliminated it on multiple occasions and had it not been for the delta strain we were sitting pretty (0 nationwide cases outside of our airport screening/hotel quarantine system) for the majority of this year.
But your post has nothing to do with mine. My post wasn't aimed at discussing/challenging the merits of a elimination strategy. It was just a critical review of Government policy in the face of that Government's claimed strategy of elimination. Again, I'm not a advocating for the approach our entire commonwealth and state based Government's agreed on, however, I am a proponent of is picking a strategy and prosecuting it.
The long and short is, if the Government wants ****ing elimination then it should lockdown for 5 days across a whole city as soon as cases pop up in two or more households simultaneously. That way we can get on with it after a week, we've had this in multiple cities across Australia on multiple occasions during the past 8 months. This is better than the cluster in Sydney right now which now looks like it will end up being in hard lockdowns for a good 7 weeks.
But your post has nothing to do with mine. My post wasn't aimed at discussing/challenging the merits of a elimination strategy. It was just a critical review of Government policy in the face of that Government's claimed strategy of elimination. Again, I'm not a advocating for the approach our entire commonwealth and state based Government's agreed on, however, I am a proponent of is picking a strategy and prosecuting it.
The long and short is, if the Government wants ****ing elimination then it should lockdown for 5 days across a whole city as soon as cases pop up in two or more households simultaneously. That way we can get on with it after a week, we've had this in multiple cities across Australia on multiple occasions during the past 8 months. This is better than the cluster in Sydney right now which now looks like it will end up being in hard lockdowns for a good 7 weeks.
Elimination doesn't even make any sense. If you eliminate it in Australia then what do you do about the rest of the world?
07-11-2021, 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted By Devils⏩
I can picture these wolves going: "YES! SHE died! We can use this!". "But she may have died because.." "No no, she had covid, it's a covid death". Next day news headlines:did you see they caught the virus on friday, but then they said she died on Saturday. The next day, really? Did she have ****ing pneumonia already or something? were they so desperate for a "i told you so" death for their propaganda.
"Women slain by mutant covid strain, THOUSANDS may be next".
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07-11-2021, 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted By Kewbrah⏩
thx for replyingYeah not going to tell Misc who I work for sorry.
Official mortality statistics take years because of the time required for coronial rulings of cause of deathfor the interesting stuff (suicides, homocides, etc, and maybe (we will see) adverse effects of vaccines).
The stats that get reported in the Australian media are those released by a massive, complicated and often hostile network of federal and state bureacracies.My take would be that it would actually be really hard to manipulate under these arrangements, due to the sheer number of parties (many of them hostile to each other) who effectively have to sign off on each number.
That doesn't mean they are correct, or aren't subject to crucial assumptions eg the guidelines on whether to classify deaths with covid as deaths from covid etc. But speaking as someone extremely cynical of government behaviour, I suspect it would be hard for any individual party to manipulate these numbers.
Official mortality statistics take years because of the time required for coronial rulings of cause of deathfor the interesting stuff (suicides, homocides, etc, and maybe (we will see) adverse effects of vaccines).
The stats that get reported in the Australian media are those released by a massive, complicated and often hostile network of federal and state bureacracies.My take would be that it would actually be really hard to manipulate under these arrangements, due to the sheer number of parties (many of them hostile to each other) who effectively have to sign off on each number.
That doesn't mean they are correct, or aren't subject to crucial assumptions eg the guidelines on whether to classify deaths with covid as deaths from covid etc. But speaking as someone extremely cynical of government behaviour, I suspect it would be hard for any individual party to manipulate these numbers.
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but who are those parties all owned/run by? I do not believe they are separate entities, they must be under 1 overseer surely?
If not, can you name the entities? Sorry If Im coming off as nosey, but I'd may as well ask as deep as I can go as statistics to me are crucial in knowing the truth of whats really going on and if they gets messed with, then we're truly stuffed
also, what qualifications did you need to land that work, or how did you get it? (something I'm deeply interested in)
07-11-2021, 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted By EoR⏩
good postOne of the least affected countries yet the most vigorous campaigns. "Half a century" instead of saying 50. Saying: "Thousands may die" when in 1.5-2 years 912 have died - and that's inflated with overseas travelers and people who are on death's bed already.
Every news outlet trying to make it sound like a VHS episode. Celebrities and all media spokepeople too worried to say anything contrary.
Zero or 1 people have died this year @ 9% vaccination rates yet they want 75%? ROFL.
Now there are talks about having mandates for certain working sectors. IT'S NOT EVEN KILLING ANYONE, 50 cases and it's an "outbreak".
ICUs are FINE, 50/25,000,000.
The problem is they keep saying "Eliminate Covid". You don't, you can't. You live with it like other flu strains. Entering full tyranny mode, cops @ malls just waiting to fine anyone with a mask.
Even states with ZEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO cases. ZEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO deaths in nearly a year have restrictions.
Reading some of the Aussie youtube comments, thankfully most seem to be aware of this. It's going to reach critical mass though, so many people will be permanently screwed with no work, it can't go on like this. The government eventually will have to be held accountable, it will take one brave popular person to spearhead.
They want to jab young healthy bodies twice a year. Fuking scum.
It's spread like other flus because it's LOW VIRULENCE. The host is nearly ALWAYS going to live. And they think they can "eliminate". rofl. Viruses are constantly mutating, you live with them.
Every news outlet trying to make it sound like a VHS episode. Celebrities and all media spokepeople too worried to say anything contrary.
Zero or 1 people have died this year @ 9% vaccination rates yet they want 75%? ROFL.
Now there are talks about having mandates for certain working sectors. IT'S NOT EVEN KILLING ANYONE, 50 cases and it's an "outbreak".
ICUs are FINE, 50/25,000,000.
The problem is they keep saying "Eliminate Covid". You don't, you can't. You live with it like other flu strains. Entering full tyranny mode, cops @ malls just waiting to fine anyone with a mask.
Even states with ZEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO cases. ZEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO deaths in nearly a year have restrictions.
Reading some of the Aussie youtube comments, thankfully most seem to be aware of this. It's going to reach critical mass though, so many people will be permanently screwed with no work, it can't go on like this. The government eventually will have to be held accountable, it will take one brave popular person to spearhead.
They want to jab young healthy bodies twice a year. Fuking scum.
It's spread like other flus because it's LOW VIRULENCE. The host is nearly ALWAYS going to live. And they think they can "eliminate". rofl. Viruses are constantly mutating, you live with them.
one thing for everyone to keep in mind is this.... The media is no ones friend and is on no ones side. It only jumps on what will grab attention, to make money from the ad premiums....thats it.... right now, covid is paying off big time for them and they will milk it out for all its worth, regardless of the fear mongering and stress it will create (not to mention the rumored suicide rate has sky rocketed)
when the time comes, it will do a 180 on its pandemic narrative.
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Originally Posted By LifeChoices⏩
In general we are stuffed, because there is endless dishonesty in government and complicity by the media.thx for replying
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but who are those parties all owned/run by? I do not believe they are separate entities, they must be under 1 overseer surely?
If not, can you name the entities? Sorry If Im coming off as nosey, but I'd may as well ask as deep as I can go as statistics to me are crucial in knowing the truth of whats really going on and if they gets messed with, then we're truly stuffed
also, what qualifications did you need to land that work, or how did you get it? (something I'm deeply interested in)
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but who are those parties all owned/run by? I do not believe they are separate entities, they must be under 1 overseer surely?
If not, can you name the entities? Sorry If Im coming off as nosey, but I'd may as well ask as deep as I can go as statistics to me are crucial in knowing the truth of whats really going on and if they gets messed with, then we're truly stuffed
also, what qualifications did you need to land that work, or how did you get it? (something I'm deeply interested in)
But other than the overarched issue re "died with" vs "died from", these particular numbers don't seem that easy to fake imo. The announced case and death numbers worth their way through multiple inter jurisdictional groups. And since the Federal Govt, the Victorian government and the NSW govt and all the other state and territory governments all loathe each other and distrust each other, they currently won't let the others get away with anything.
Lots of people get in with degrees in epidemiology, biostatistics or masters in public health. But you can get into the public service with all kinds of qualifications and make your way into most fields or up to any height in the seniority ladder by just showing you can perform the job.
07-11-2021, 06:21 AM
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I am actually curious to see how this will develop because cases are not going down and by Aussie standards they need to be extremely low for the lockdown to end. People in Sydney don't seem to give two chits anymore and are sick of lockdowns. How long can you realistically keep the lockdown going before people go crazy, surely no one will accept being locked for another month or more, and without decent financial support like the first time.did you see they caught the virus on friday, but then they said she died on Saturday. The next day, really? Did she have ****ing pneumonia already or something? were they so desperate for a "i told you so" death for their propaganda.
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Originally Posted By Kewbrah⏩
thanks for the insights into statistics, please share anything else u can about the jobIn general we are stuffed, because there is endless dishonesty in government and complicity by the media.
But other than the overarched issue re "died with" vs "died from", these particular numbers don't seem that easy to fake imo. The announced case and death numbers worth their way through multiple inter jurisdictional groups. And since the Federal Govt, the Victorian government and the NSW govt and all the other state and territory governments all loathe each other and distrust each other, they currently won't let the others get away with anything.
Lots of people get in with degrees in epidemiology, biostatistics or masters in public health. But you can get into the public service with all kinds of qualifications and make your way into most fields or up to any height in the seniority ladder by just showing you can perform the job.
But other than the overarched issue re "died with" vs "died from", these particular numbers don't seem that easy to fake imo. The announced case and death numbers worth their way through multiple inter jurisdictional groups. And since the Federal Govt, the Victorian government and the NSW govt and all the other state and territory governments all loathe each other and distrust each other, they currently won't let the others get away with anything.
Lots of people get in with degrees in epidemiology, biostatistics or masters in public health. But you can get into the public service with all kinds of qualifications and make your way into most fields or up to any height in the seniority ladder by just showing you can perform the job.
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Originally Posted By LifeChoices⏩
So the TGA is the government organisation that decides which drugs and medical devices are safe enough to be used on Australia (they are the people who stopped us having DMAA in our preworkouts) gives stats on adverse events.thanks for the insights into statistics, please share anything else u can about the job
If you look here (scroll down to the "reports of death" subheading)
https://www.tga.gov.au/periodic/covi...ort-27-05-2021
you can see that as at 6 weeks ago 210 people had died shortly after getting vaccinated. However you can see from the tone that they are trying to downplay this, emphasising that this may be coincidental. In the end they are only conceding 1 out of the 210 as being caused by the vaccine.
07-11-2021, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted By foXs⏩
you can keep the lockdowns going for another 5 years and nobody is going to say ****.I am actually curious to see how this will develop because cases are not going down and by Aussie standards they need to be extremely low for the lockdown to end. People in Sydney don't seem to give two chits anymore and are sick of lockdowns. How long can you realistically keep the lockdown going before people go crazy, surely no one will accept being locked for another month or more, and without decent financial support like the first time.
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Originally Posted By guideX⏩
Commie detected. Didn't read.That's what happens when you have an individualistic society without any sense of community.
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07-11-2021, 07:04 AM
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Great post comparing "with" vs "from". Apparently all the deaths related to the vaccines are "WITH"s and are "not enough evidence" "coincidental" but a 90 year old on their death bed that has a covid strain most DEFINITELY died FROM Covid.
I mean we already know they reupload videos, fraudulently delete comments under falsehoods if it's a video they want to be pinned.
Imagine fear mongering on top of censorship of open dialogue?
Originally Posted By Kewbrah⏩
Youtubes AI and staff also censoring/deleting even scientists and doctors giving their input if it's contrary. Seriously youtubes comment AI is an abomination, what it "thinks" is offense, just lol.In general we are stuffed, because there is endless dishonesty in government and complicity by the media.
But other than the overarched issue re "died with" vs "died from", these particular numbers don't seem that easy to fake imo. The announced case and death numbers worth their way through multiple inter jurisdictional groups. And since the Federal Govt, the Victorian government and the NSW govt and all the other state and territory governments all loathe each other and distrust each other, they currently won't let the others get away with anything.
Lots of people get in with degrees in epidemiology, biostatistics or masters in public health. But you can get into the public service with all kinds of qualifications and make your way into most fields or up to any height in the seniority ladder by just showing you can perform the job.
But other than the overarched issue re "died with" vs "died from", these particular numbers don't seem that easy to fake imo. The announced case and death numbers worth their way through multiple inter jurisdictional groups. And since the Federal Govt, the Victorian government and the NSW govt and all the other state and territory governments all loathe each other and distrust each other, they currently won't let the others get away with anything.
Lots of people get in with degrees in epidemiology, biostatistics or masters in public health. But you can get into the public service with all kinds of qualifications and make your way into most fields or up to any height in the seniority ladder by just showing you can perform the job.
I mean we already know they reupload videos, fraudulently delete comments under falsehoods if it's a video they want to be pinned.
Imagine fear mongering on top of censorship of open dialogue?
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Originally Posted By guideX⏩
- we have eliminated itI agree with the points in your post, save the point about not eliminating a virus since we have eliminated it on multiple occasions and had it not been for the delta strain we were sitting pretty (0 nationwide cases outside of our airport screening/hotel quarantine system) for the majority of this year.
But your post has nothing to do with mine. My post wasn't aimed at discussing/challenging the merits of a elimination strategy. It was just a critical review of Government policy in the face of that Government's claimed strategy of elimination. Again, I'm not a advocating for the approach our entire commonwealth and state based Government's agreed on, however, I am a proponent of is picking a strategy and prosecuting it.
The long and short is, if the Government wants ****ing elimination then it should lockdown for 5 days across a whole city as soon as cases pop up in two or more households simultaneously. That way we can get on with it after a week, we've had this in multiple cities across Australia on multiple occasions during the past 8 months. This is better than the cluster in Sydney right now which now looks like it will end up being in hard lockdowns for a good 7 weeks.
But your post has nothing to do with mine. My post wasn't aimed at discussing/challenging the merits of a elimination strategy. It was just a critical review of Government policy in the face of that Government's claimed strategy of elimination. Again, I'm not a advocating for the approach our entire commonwealth and state based Government's agreed on, however, I am a proponent of is picking a strategy and prosecuting it.
The long and short is, if the Government wants ****ing elimination then it should lockdown for 5 days across a whole city as soon as cases pop up in two or more households simultaneously. That way we can get on with it after a week, we've had this in multiple cities across Australia on multiple occasions during the past 8 months. This is better than the cluster in Sydney right now which now looks like it will end up being in hard lockdowns for a good 7 weeks.
- multiple occasions
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Thanks for proving my point. You didn't eliminate it - you simply caused a bump in the road. The fact is that you cannot eliminate a widespread, highly contagious respiratory virus with lockdowns. It only slows or delays the inevitable. On the flip side of that - if you had no lockdowns at all whatsoever, then you'd already have reached herd immunity and would be mostly past the virus as a problematic pandemic. You are playing right into a massive game being played against you that you can't see and certainly don't understand. It's not about a virus or climate change or muh racism or social justice or equity or cyber attacks - it's all (and much more) about the pre-planned Great Reset.
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I'm glad OP woke up. Sorry for the negs bro. Hopefully more of you lefty freaks follow suit.
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