nope just stay in doors, lose your business, get in debt, go mentally ill, get fat and wait for the 'MEDICINE' ..............that doesnt really work

that was the whole plan all along chief.

I Not my problem.

Quite the opposite imo, every bit of social media and msm is pushing for the get vaccine is safe narrative. It’s the anti-vaccine getting censored. So the exact opposite of having a disinformation campaign, unless you’re claiming that “vaccine is safe” is the disinformation.

It’s quite simple, people are skeptical about msm and gov constantly lying. They dismissed the virus lab leak theory as CT and now back-pedalling, how can anyone trust what they say?

They dismiss the risks of the vaccine and censor anything against it so logic would say, how is this not a repeat?

The MSM on both sides have shown very clear bias, I.e mostly peaceful protests, hiding the race when it’s black, sensationalising it when it’s white on poc, coming from a POC, I just noticed this. So I don’t trust them.

The truth shall prevail. If the vaccine is safe, have an open debate and answer the hard questions in a debate manner over it on live TV, then they can quickly dismiss CT theories easily. The fact that they’re afraid to even have that conversation and censoring the opposing views, we’ll, tell me, why in every instance in history has anyone ever censored the opposing views and how did that work out in the end?

I believe the vaccine is effective and the side effects likely minimal, I also believe I have no real reason to take it, the same way I sometimes accept the flu shot or reject it depending on how I feel. No desire to go get it twice and feel chitty for a couple days. It's also rushed and in that sense I have no great faith that it is 100% safe, but I've also roided and smoked a lot of weed so clearly I'm not a purist when it comes to what I put in my body. Just don't particularly want it unless there's a reason to get it. The constant propaganda and fearmongering is also extremely obnoxious, I'm pretty anti-authoritarian so the fact these *******s are pushing it so hard and the overexertion of their influence is annoying. Though a lot of anti-vaxxers are idiots, I'm glad the public does not trust the government or corporations.

It will always mutate, that is what every virus does. Since the beginning of this pandemic when I was a house supervisor I had to deal with this bullchit from all fronts. Including walking in one day after a week off and getting told from higher up executives we were making a million random changes that made no sense. Despite us having greater c diff and norovirus outbreaks than any COVID outbreak that could be linked anywhere. The entire thing is a farce boyo. Not in the sense that it doesn't exist or doesn't kill people, but in the sense that even medical professionals---INCLUDING INFECTION PREVENTION---made it obvious they're just pretending and making things up as they go.

I walked around with a 300 page binder telling different CDC guidelines to different front line workers as they altered it every day. As a nurse I went from having infectious control telling me masks become useless after one shift, can't touch your face, can't put it below your chin to eat or anything, droplets destroy the integrity of the material, etc. to us pretending that you can indefinitely re-use masks, including these people who wear the same cloth mask everywhere. There was a reason we always used a new disposable mask every time we entered a room of a known contagious patient prior to this. These people wearing their masks everywhere for weeks were never anything more than hygiene theater---that's what most of this response is. 'Amusing' to see how completely useless so much of our posturing was, like disinfecting everything, constantly changing guidelines, temperature checks, somehow taking over a year to discover how surface transmission worked (or didn't), etc. A disgusting farce from the medical establishment at large.

If they want to order lockdowns, they can go ahead. Not going to change anything. Australia is already doing it with 0 deaths and a few asymptomatic cases. Me getting a vaccine is not going to stop COVID from mutating, the same way me getting my flu shot does not stop various influenzae A and B strains from alternating on a yearly basis. I don't think it could be avoided, infectious diseases/microorganisms are part of nature and we have been saying we are overdue for a superbug or pandemic for a long time. You should be more concerned about the development of things like MRSA and other antibiotic-resistant superbugs instead of a coronavirus variant. After all this fearmongering, when a true threat pops up, the CDC and other health organizations will have shot themselves in the foot by alienating so much of the general population with their waffling and doomsaying.

If anything we should be focusing our efforts on creating novel methods of eliminating or preventing superbugs beyond our traditional over-used medicines, instead of this panicked retroactive response to something that already occurred. Now how much money will we spend on new vaccines and attempting to control low-risk variants when we can focus that on so many other health issues?

this "vaccine" has caused more deaths in 6 months than all other vaccines combined, ever.

"vaccine" is in quotes because it's actually not technically a vaccine, it's an experimental synthetic mRNA injection.

I had really low faith in humanity before covid, but seeing how many people are willing to put this sht into their bodies and their children's bodies has lowered my faith even lower. it's like I'm living with a bunch of automatons, like they have no consciousness whatsoever. it feels more than ever like this is all a simulation. fkn crazy man.

literally no country pushed: healthy lifestyle, vit D, weight loss, Vit C, Zinc, exercise and Ivermectin


nope just stay in doors, lose your business, get in debt, go mentally ill, get fat and wait for the 'MEDICINE' ..............that doesnt really work

To play Devil's advocate, I'd say that the public's trust in big pharma has nose dived in recent years. barely anyone was against the vaccines they released before. It's different now for reasons I'll include below in a list of reasons why some people are against this particular vaccine:

- Most of these companies have been fined billions for falsifying test results re safety

- Most having to compensate individuals

- Now they're all protected against having to pay compensation for this vaccine

- These companies mostly colluded to create an opioid epidemic in America and aided this by falsifying information on addictiveness.

- I don't know about the US but here in the UK most of the policy advisors have large amounts of shares in said companies.

- Policy advisors here have straight up stated on national TV the vax isn't the route to normality. Only cases are.

- Speaking of cases, people notice the news etc only speaks of cases, not deaths. It's completely meaningless so they realise they've being mislead by the media.

- Said advisors have stated future variants will make the vaccine far less effective. They then said there will definitely be more variants.

- People observe that barely anybody under like 50/without diabeetus/other issues have many effects from the rona. They also observe that young people can still feel for a couple of days like they've been hit by a train when they take the vaccine. Proper flu-like. The worst they'll get from the rona is sniffles.

- Policies such as mask wearing are bollocks. People can clearly see that loads of the policies either make no sense, are contradictory or obviously just phycological or punitive. Therefore when the same politicians are pushing for the vaccine, people think it may well be a bit dodgy...like pretty much all the data being used to justify all of it.

- Some of the "conspiracy theories" over the last year have proven to be either correct or have something in them. This includes examples like the vaccine passports and the lab escape. Media, politicians and online shills stated these were lunatic conspiracy theories. But they seem now to be correct. The most obvious one is that the "conspiracy theorists" correctly predicted rolling lockdowns this whole time. The shills/politicians/media have been like "JuSt TwO MoRE WeEkS BRo" lol.

- The above people have been wrong about nearly everything over the past year. They have a worse track record on this than the conspiracy theorists lol. Granted, you'd have to be a fukking idiot not to see a year ago how this'd play. The point is that we're expected to swallow without question everything said by those who did not call it and dismiss out of hand without question everything said by those who did call it. People look at these track records and favourably look at things said by anti-vaxxers and take with a grain of salt what's being said by pro-vaxxers for this reason.

Like I say, I'm merely playing Devil's Advocate. I took the vaccine (though experienced from it worse symptoms than I'd have gotten from the rona) so I'm not an "anti-vaxxer" but if you have no questions about it and believe what politicians (or their "scientific advisors" whose job is to tell the public whatever the government tells them lol) or the media say on it without question then you have chit for brains just like the worst of the conspiracy theorists out there.

To, to conclude, the overarching reason anti-vaxx stuff has gained traction is becausemany of the people shilling for the vaccine (mainstream media, politicians, pharma conglomerates, advisors like Fauci etc, big tech companies who censor information, online shills etc etc) have proven themselves to be even less trustworthy than conspiracy theorists.

this alone ensures i would not take it, does this apply to all other vaccines?

Incorrect. You can indirectly make someone feel they have no choice.

You can enforce mandates for certain work sectors - brb if you want to work in this industry you need a shot.

You can make life so difficult without "TECHNICALLY" enforcing that people are coerced regardless.

Please tell me you could this out for yourself yeah?

And lol @ the other moron saying "Trust" with all the deception and proven rush vaccines. Including 80mill that got pulled not too long ago. Yeah "trust". Doctors and scientists having their videos deleted proving contrary data.

You have in the open the statistics, and then a misrepresentation. How can you "TRUST" that? I am mean, just lol @ attacking people who are carefully considering all the data and not blindly trusting a government.

They even have LEGAL IMMUNITY and no liability for any bad fallout. YEAH TRUST.

My job entails direct work with the FDA on a variety of medical devices and pharmaceuticals. I've seen chit that FDA clears and approves and I've seen the negative effects they have after a few years, even with long clinical trials and other performance testing. The vaccine isn't approved, it's a EUA. The long term effects aren't known. The development was too quick. The FDA was politicized. The marketing push for these vaccines wouldn't ever be allowed for any other drug. I wouldn't touch these things if they offered a million dollars. Btw, offering donuts or pizza or whatever the fuk is against regulation, but it's allowed for this. Every person taking them is part of the clinical trials basically. It's severely fukd up.

not a single country suggests you can be immune by having contracted the virus already and recovered. They only point towards their vaccines as the ONLY option.

Repped. Fauci is lying on my tv right now.



Same. Strong incentive to avoid the vaccine.

- don't have much money or income
- don't have/can't afford private health insurance
- too poor to get a subsidized Obamacare plan
- state that didn't expand Medicaid/can't get Medicaid

So if I have some major/ongoing health issue I'm pretty much buggered. I can try to avoid getting the virus, but if I get the vaccine and it goes pear shaped then it is just too damn bad.



Same as you aren't technically forced to get a full body scan to get on a plane, you could just not fly or take the time to get a full body pat down if you want to spend more time going through airport security.



Amen.



And why is this? Why the full court press that every man, woman, and child get the jab?

BTW, looks like the Delta variant has already peaked in the UK and is on the way back down. It is actually decreasing in non-vaccinated people first.



https://lockdownsceptics.org/2021/07...-young-people/

Cold like virus that I might not even get that only kills people older then the average life expectancy

Vs

100% chance of injecting untested chemicals into my body

Hmmm….

Recent figures always look like they are on their way down because new data is coming in. This is why you don't listen to "lockdownskeptics.org" and actually look at credible sources. It may well be that it is on the decline. It also may not be. You need to look at more data. The last week's data will never be a good measure of anything.

Fauci is not lying.

Also if you lived in a non trash tier state, the vaccine would be free.

The full court press is because of a principle known as "herd immunity".

Recent figures always look like they are on their way down because new data is coming in. This is why you don't listen to "lockdownskeptics.org" and actually look at credible sources. It may well be that it is on the decline. It also may not be. You need to look at more data. The last week's data will never be a good measure of anything because it will always be underreported as more info comes in.

Fauci is not lying. This is another thing that bothers me. You guys scapegoat Fauci. I have people in my family that directly worked with him. He's not a bad guy at all. He's spent his entire life trying to help America. For you people to scapegoat him is unconscionable.

Also if you lived in a non trash tier state, the vaccine would be free.

The full court press is because of a principle known as "herd immunity".

LMAO at the miscers getting defensive ITT.

Some people actually does not believe in the vaccine, ie. they believe it doesn’t work or believe there’s something other than “vaccine” in it.
… and the reason? There’s millions of idiots in the world.

Repped. But they just reported their first COVID death for the year.





The vaccine is free to everyone in the US.

Healthcare for any negative effects of the vaccine is a privilege that isn't extended to everyone, despite the common idea that anyone who is sick can just waltz in to any ER for free treatment. They are required tostabilizeyour condition; nothing more.

And miss the comedy?

anyone else auto scroll past Wincel?

They already do respond and address many questions. Censoring can be very useful. When you don't have the time or patience to deal with idiots, you censor them. I'm sure you've never set foot in a university, but once in a while, there is a crackpot who isn't even registered who will sneak past security and come in and argue with the prof about why the earth is flat or something. Guess what? Security comes and escorts the nutjob out.

"censoring can be useful"

Holy chit the fact that this retard is serious is insane.

"censoring can be useful"

Holy chit the fact that this retard is serious is insane.

I'm not anti vaccine I just feel like I take the appropriate precautions to not need one. I don't even take a flu shot and I haven't had a flu in 15 years.

I understand the need for the vaccine and if you're in a high risk category I recommend getting it.

I hate how this has become a heavily politicized issue