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post 1643295453 07-21-2021, 04:28 AM
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Sukhoi announces new stealth fighter Checkmate

It's Russia's answer to the F35. Strong



https://checkmate.uacrussia.ru/
post 1643295963 07-21-2021, 04:50 AM
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post 1643296913 07-21-2021, 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted By MisterJustice
Nothing can beat the F-35 in air superiority
Unfortunately the f35 is a piece of schit. It can't dogfight.

It was a failure. It's Fat and Slow.
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post 1643296953 07-21-2021, 05:25 AM
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Pretty cool how these countries keep wasting money on useless toys rather than providing for their people.
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Most new tech from USA is garbage. Unless USA is behind the UFO reports we fukt
post 1643297153 07-21-2021, 05:32 AM
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Are fighter jets even relevant anymore? Isnt it all about light weight fully automated supersonic assault drones now?
post 1643297203 07-21-2021, 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted By AlwaysFocus
Most new tech from USA is garbage. Unless USA is behind the UFO reports we fukt
Just lol if you dont think we have way better tech thetathe avereage normie knows about. the USA soesnt make commercials about our newest fighter just jfl. They don’t want nor have to.
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Originally Posted By EagleOfWar
Just lol if you dont think we have way better tech thetathe avereage normie knows about. the USA soesnt make commercials about our newest fighter just jfl. They don’t want nor have to.
they never should m8
post 1643297283 07-21-2021, 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted By exxtracool
Are fighter jets even relevant anymore? Isnt it all about light weight fully automated supersonic assault drones now?
This one can be converted to autonomous in the future
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Sukhoi makes solid jets. This is the counterpart to the F-35, like the Su-57 is the counterpart to the F-22. Too bad they can't actually afford too many working models.
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post 1643298183 07-21-2021, 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted By MisterJustice
Nothing can beat the F-35 in air superiority
That's not true. It was deigned as a multi role fighter. F22 is air superiority.
Originally Posted By leoslayer1
Unfortunately the f35 is a piece of schit. It can't dogfight.

It was a failure. It's Fat and Slow.
Also not true. I know F35 test pilots. It flies as good as the F16 with way more technology.
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post 1643298333 07-21-2021, 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted By TXBuddy
That's not true. It was deigned as a multi role fighter. F22 is air superiority.

Also not true. I know F35 test pilots. It flies as good as the F16 with way more technology.
It is true. If it goes to a merge it will die vs a F16 or F15.

It also doesn't have the speed to run away if needed.

F16s have beaten it in training.
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I did not know the misc had a lot of test fighter pilots giving their opinion on the next gen aircrafts.

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post 1643299203 07-21-2021, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1
It is true. If it goes to a merge it will die vs a F16 or F15.

It also doesn't have the speed to run away if needed.

F16s have beaten it in training.
It's not designed to merge like we did 30 years ago. Also, Which F15? The F15E won't perform like the A-D.

It's a jack of all trades, but with way more technology and early warning.
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post 1643299343 07-21-2021, 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted By exxtracool
Are fighter jets even relevant anymore? Isnt it all about light weight fully automated supersonic assault drones now?
yes, as why the sr72 and loyal wingman are rolling our for America and Australia. Good for large borders and covers vast ocean area. They work best in groups with each module serving a different purpose. This is also why Aus provides the emp missiles to America for past 40 years with BAE systems. The payload always a step ahead thanks to DARPA. Project Nulka if anyone wants to look into it.
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Originally Posted By al****orilla
I did not know the misc had a lot of test fighter pilots giving their opinion on the next gen aircrafts.

This place truly only attracts the alphas of our society.
Now you know
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Originally Posted By TXBuddy
It's not designed to merge like we did 30 years ago. Also, Which F15? The F15E won't perform like the A-D.

It's a jack of all trades, but with way more technology and early warning.
I understand it's not designed to go to merge.

We've been trying to get away from the Merge since 1958 but guess what?

We still have to Merge today ROE haven't allowed us to go BVR very often if at all.

It needs to be able to get in a phone booth with someone when schit goes south as it always will in combat.
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Originally Posted By al****orilla
I did not know the misc had a lot of test fighter pilots giving their opinion on the next gen aircrafts.

This place truly only attracts the alphas of our society.
I'm not a pilot, just a career military guy who nerds out on this stuff. During a 5 month course, I sat next to a career F15/F22 pilot who now works on the F35 program in Ft Worth. I asked a lot of questions and heard a lot of stories.
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post 1643299813 07-21-2021, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted By al****orilla
I did not know the misc had a lot of test fighter pilots giving their opinion on the next gen aircrafts.

This place truly only attracts the alphas of our society.
well in all fairness, these new 6th gen systems need to utilize AI architecture to get aerodynamics on point thanks to shockwaves and thermals. Our ****gy brains struggle with these ideas to solve problems we need millions of trial and error optimization simulations now. That's when the computer output a shell looking like a fookin dolphin , and the geniuses said oh yeah because it also has to ride the waves. Makes sense. But computer was doing same what evolution was doing. Human the dumbest again vs. Nature and AI. They making us show our weak colors.
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Originally Posted By al****orilla
I did not know the misc had a lot of test fighter pilots giving their opinion on the next gen aircrafts.

This place truly only attracts the alphas of our society.
Always has been. Son, your ego is writing checks your body can't cash.

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Originally Posted By al****orilla
I did not know the misc had a lot of test fighter pilots giving their opinion on the next gen aircrafts.

This place truly only attracts the alphas of our society.
2020 changed everything. Miscers who can't tie their shoelaces properly suddenly became fighter pilots, epidemiologists, and lawyers.
Add in the 10k a day CEO's and everyone swinging 9"+ dicks, and we have the most alpha forum in the universe!
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Here’s a reveal of a new russian car



And a state of the art postal drone

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Originally Posted By leoslayer1
Unfortunately the f35 is a piece of schit. It can't dogfight.

It was a failure. It's Fat and Slow.
F35 wasn't really intended for dog fighting.

Also who does dog fighting in 21st century? All about them drones. US here playing chess while Russia and China playing checkers.
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Originally Posted By Uhyeahokay
Always has been. Son, your ego is writing checks your body can't cash.

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OP your data is inaccurate. I have happened to see a MIG do a 4G negative dive.
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Russia can't even afford something like this in any meaningful numbers. Same thing happened with the SU-57--it's basically an F-22 clone but Russia hasonein inventory.

Stealth fighters are cool and all, but one of the biggest factors that doesn't get much attention is how they communicate with other assets. US has a massive advantage here, which will only improve moving forward with the RQ-180:

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...ing-revolution

cliffs:
-Using comms can negate the benefits of stealth. If an enemy sees electronic emissions, they know an asset is in that area.
-RQ-180 will is a stealth drone that will replace standard AWACs aircraft in denied environments
-It's going to orbit high above the battlefield and use lasers to communicate with satellites
-using lasers gives a ton of instantaneous bandwidth and, most importantly, cannot be intercepted unless something gets between it and the satellite
-The RQ-180 can use the same line of sight communication to communicate with stealth assets so they don't have to produce RF emissions


Originally Posted By Retoaded
OP your data is inaccurate. I have happened to see a MIG do a 4G negative dive.
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Pretty sure the US is forgoing stealth fighters and painting their aircraft pink and rainbow now
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Originally Posted By Jax05
F35 wasn't really intended for dog fighting.

Also who does dog fighting in 21st century? All about them drones. US here playing chess while Russia and China playing checkers.
Again this has been said since the end of The Korean War.

The fact is when you have multi national assets in a theater Command often makes you id before you shoot to avoid Blue on Blue engagements.
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