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post 1644584023 08-09-2021, 12:33 PM
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imagine still demanding the vaccine passport in order to get more people vaccinated

now that we see how badly the vaccines work, why not just tell people to lose weight so that's already most of the healthcare burden gone? and when i say badly, i mean that even though the vaccine may reduce the chances for transmission and serious symptoms, these places with 90-100% vaccination rate are still doing lockdowns...

i hope at least some of forcevaxxers open their eyes and start questioning if forced 100% vaccination rate is really the solution. for real, iirc 80% of hospitalized covid people were overweight, so how about we start forcing people to lose weight the same way we're being forced to vaxx up?
post 1644584203 08-09-2021, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted By FlexLex
Vaccines seem to do well with preventing severe death and hospitalizations but not with at least testing positive for the virus/getting it, which to be fair, is what the vaccine makers suggested initially.

IMO the old, fat, and sick should be getting vaccines and boosters regularly and the rest of us should just go on with our lives. This constant focus on the virus and especially cases now is clown world ****. Covid is here to stay, cases dont mean ****. prevent deaths in the susceptible and leave the rest of the population alone.
Yeah the goal should be to vaccinate the people most at risk and a high enough overall % to keep healthcare burden to a minimum. Aside from those goals, open 'er up because COVID isn't going anywhere


IMHO we'll all catch it eventually. I'm not at risk and have zero fear of the virus but I also don't fear the vaccines, and I'd rather have that layer of protection for when I do inevitably catch it
post 1644584273 08-09-2021, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted By 5x10
thats literally what I said

If the vax didn’t do anything, and there’s 9x the vax’ed vs unvaxxed, there would be 27 deaths
But
There was 7
7/27 = 25.9% , reduction of 75%
I know. My bad. I deleted my post.


Your original posts itt seemed to suggest that 45% coming from vaxxed was proof vax didn't work, which is obviously the opposite.

I guess not so obvious as multiple people quoted you itt interpreting it the other way.


Either way my bad. Good math by you.
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post 1644584373 08-09-2021, 12:38 PM
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post 1644584403 08-09-2021, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted By HayZues
I know. My bad. I deleted my post.


Your original posts itt seemed to suggest that 45% coming from vaxxed was proof vax didn't work, which is obviously the opposite.

I guess not so obvious as multiple people quoted you itt interpreting it the other way.


Either way my bad. Good math by you.
no worries, I deleted it

Don’t you find it odd that other nations are reporting vaccine #s that aren’t even close to the cdc’s 1% claim?
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post 1644584653 08-09-2021, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted By 5x10
no worries, I deleted it

Don’t you find it odd that other nations are reporting vaccine #s that aren’t even close to the cdc’s 1% claim?
Yes, but honestly haven't looked into it.


Also, I'm never shocked when a government agency is less than truthful.


I'm vaccinated, and my wife is bringing home a covid test for me today. I have a 102 fever and feel like a fat chick is sitting on my chest. I refuse to contribute to the covid numbers tho, so testing at home just so I know to if I should be going into office this week.
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post 1644584853 08-09-2021, 12:45 PM
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1% is obviously unrealistic. Not if close to believable and there must be some caveat in the fine print. Otherwise just insulting to our intelligence.
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post 1644585113 08-09-2021, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted By HayZues
Yes, but honestly haven't looked into it.


Also, I'm never shocked when a government agency is less than truthful.


I'm vaccinated, and my wife is bringing home a covid test for me today. I have a 102 fever and feel like a fat chick is sitting on my chest. I refuse to contribute to the covid numbers tho, so testing at home just so I know to if I should be going into office this week.
good luck
I know a guy that Got it twice (and he got both phizer shots)
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post 1644585133 08-09-2021, 12:48 PM
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why is iceland freaking about 16 hospitalizations?
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post 1644585363 08-09-2021, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted By sooby
why is iceland freaking about 16 hospitalizations?
I don't think they are. I think retarded miscers are using Iceland to paint the vax as pointless.
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post 1644585483 08-09-2021, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted By sooby
why is iceland freaking about 16 hospitalizations?
Gotta keep in mind that countries build out their health care systems based on their population, historical trends, and of course funding

Iceland’s healthcare is largely funded by taxes. Less population = less tax revenue = smaller health care system and capacity. Small countries don’t sit on massive unused capacity or they’d be needlessly bleeding out $$$
post 1644585543 08-09-2021, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted By sooby
why is iceland freaking about 16 hospitalizations?
because EU put them from green to orange and is about to be dark red.
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post 1644585603 08-09-2021, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted By sooby
why is iceland freaking about 16 hospitalizations?
To be fair that’s a pretty high number so seeing their are only 350k people in the whole country.
post 1644588703 08-09-2021, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted By HayZues
I don't think they are. I think retarded miscers are using Iceland to paint the vax as pointless.
It's not pointless, but they are only going to use booster shots for the most vulnerable and have said that their data is showing that herd immunity can't be reached with the vax and that they are going to start easing restrictions.

I think the main point they are getting from Iceland is that it's not just the unvaxxed that are spreading the delta variant.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
Dying just means the vaccine is working
Yes, it's one of the potential side effects you agreed to when you signed your waiver to get the vaccine. The people making the vaccine won't be responsible. The people mandating the vaccine won't be responsible. The people administering the vaccine won't be responsible. But if you refuse the vaccine, then you're being irresponsible. If you take the vaccine and die from it, then "you knew the risks". How can panic-cels and their NPC allies not see what's really going on?!
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post 1644589503 08-09-2021, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted By chaunce54
Sounds like they should have just trusted the science.
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post 1644589753 08-09-2021, 01:51 PM
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Icelands Dr Fauci is gonna find himself disappeared for talking like that
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Originally Posted By jackamo2887
Icelands Dr Fauci is gonna find himself disappeared for talking like that
He already changed his mind for the evening news the same day, saying he was misunderstood, despite the fact that what he was saying was very clearly stated and could not be misunderstood. He definitely got a good speaking to.

For reference the daily cases if the Iceland population was the same as the US would be over 100k, and the amount of people hospitalized would be around 15000. This despite having one of the highest vaccination rates in the world.
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so basically the consensus is the vax is good for people at risk as it lowers the negative effects (reduces the death and hospitalization rate), but basically useless and potentially detrimental for everyone else (and potentially the whole of society if it fuks up herd immunity and leads to covid forever)

vaxcels why are you like you are?
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Originally Posted By MiscInformed
Yes, it's one of the potential side effects you agreed to when you signed your waiver to get the vaccine. The people making the vaccine won't be responsible. The people mandating the vaccine won't be responsible. The people administering the vaccine won't be responsible. But if you refuse the vaccine, then you're being irresponsible. If you take the vaccine and die from it, then "you knew the risks". How can panic-cels and their NPC allies not see what's really going on?!
One Australian cardiologist just came out saying he believes the Delta strain causes blood clotting and that you are at less chance (but still a chance) to get blood clotting if you get the vaccine. He claimed that people with Vax get blood clotting and recover, unvaxxed have higher chance of dying if they get it.

Wonder how much Pfizer and AstraZeneca paid him to make that chit up LMAO. Completely shameless
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STRONG deaths
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Originally Posted By drlarsrobotnik


STRONG deaths
"Biggest spike evar!"
LMAO

Do you think it will get up to the horrific 3 death spike of last October? How will they ever recover?
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