Thread: Where did all the employees go?
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Originally Posted By inkie77⏩
So a lot less people with mimimal immigration? We don't have thatthe sameway it works in Sweden/ norway/ switzerland/ etc.
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Originally Posted By inkie77⏩
Yes. Those countries don't just import people for fun. Otherwise I would do itsweden has minimal immigration lol? lol lolol
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Originally Posted By inkie77⏩
your lack of awareness is showingsweden has minimal immigration lol? lol lolol
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Originally Posted By ohiostate124⏩
Telecom construction management28-34 an hour doing what?
Used to get applicants that had administrative background or project coordinator backrounds…literally getting zero applicants now, and even in high populated areas
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Seen a few companies now back to posting "on the spot" job interviews. This was how it was back in the day where you could walk in off the street and get hired the same day. Companies desperate for workers should have been doing this all along before the pandemic, instead of jerking around the many applicants they've gotten over the previous years.
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Originally Posted By Shysty021⏩
More comp and benefits, or no more wage slaves. That's the dealTelecom construction management
Used to get applicants that had administrative background or project coordinator backrounds…literally getting zero applicants now, and even in high populated areas
Used to get applicants that had administrative background or project coordinator backrounds…literally getting zero applicants now, and even in high populated areas
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Originally Posted By 8pieces⏩
college is being subsidized and high school students arent working so no one between 16-22 really cares about working and thats most food service workersThe only jobs not getting filled is food service. Apparently people don’t like getting paid $2/hr and not getting tipped.
the kitchen's are still staffed
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
I dont get what you’re saying…More comp and benefits, or no more wage slaves. That's the deal
The reason nobody applies is because everybody is making more than $30 hour with health 401k etc now
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Originally Posted By Shysty021⏩
So why are you surprised you aren't getting applicants if you're offering less than what they are already making?I dont get what you’re saying…
The reason nobody applies is because everybody is making more than $30 hour with health 401k etc now
The reason nobody applies is because everybody is making more than $30 hour with health 401k etc now
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Originally Posted By TBO1313⏩
That was a question…I know that it is actually the higher end than the normSo why are you surprised you aren't getting applicants if you're offering less than what they are already making?
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The USA is unfortunately turning more Blue every year due to continuous demographics changes specifically poor minorities having 8 kids (Typically Democrat Voters) as well as undesirables/freeloaders pouring in over the border and also having 8 kids (Also Democrats). I am typically am optimist but I'm glad I won't be around in 50 years to see what happens to this country. It's inevitable. When a company gives away too much free money, what happens? They go broke. The Democrats want this all to happen - they want open borders so they can promise freebies , get votes, and get more and more power. This is not how this country became great. Hard work and free market capitalism made this country great. Unfortunately, I think the Tour's Over. Democrats are destroying this country.
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Originally Posted By Shysty021⏩
The lack of punctuation threw me off lol. There has to be some reason people aren't applying. Is it dangerous? Is it the type of job that very few are qualified for? $30 an hour is 10k over the medianhouseholdincome in NC so if nobody is applying there is a good reasonThat was a question…I know that it is actually the higher end than the norm
Like I said earlier the only jobs where I live that aren't getting filled are the types of jobs where you couldn't afford to live on your own. I talked to a guy a the state DOT yesterday and he said they aren't having any problem filling openings. They have great state benefits but the pay starts between $20 and $25k and the work is hard. I think one of the reasons they can get people to work is because there is a clear path to progression in that career. Sure, it starts low but if you show up everyday and do your work you can move up pretty quick and even if you don't stay there forever you have some experience for your resume. Retail and food service isn't like that.
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Is this a srs bread Muzzbrah? First Secretary Xiden is paying everyone unlimited unemployment or whatever. 95% of minimum wage employees would much rather just take 70-80% of their chit salary and do phuck all than clock on and a trivial amount more.
That's probably why they're minimum wage employees in the first place.
That's probably why they're minimum wage employees in the first place.
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Originally Posted By TomWanks⏩
mcdonalds pays 11 an hour at a location I was at for a while that’s like three bucks above minimum wage who the **** actually pays minimum wage that **** must suckIs this a srs bread Muzzbrah? First Secretary Xiden is paying everyone unlimited unemployment or whatever. 95% of minimum wage employees would much rather just take 70-80% of their chit salary and do phuck all than clock on and a trivial amount more.
That's probably why they're minimum wage employees in the first place.
That's probably why they're minimum wage employees in the first place.
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Originally Posted By lowkey94⏩
Okay brah, sorry for not using the exact phucking industry average salary figures in my misc comment. Thanks for the completely necessary, 100% non-homosexual correction.mcdonalds pays 11 an hour at a location I was at for a while that’s like three bucks above minimum wage who the **** actually pays minimum wage that **** must suck
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Lol 75% of people under 25 are full blown socialists now. I would say even millennials a good 50/50 split on the amount of socialist scumbags exist. No one wants to put in the hard work. It's all about getting an only fans and doing some outrageous chit, or getting a tik tok or youtube following. Not to mention that the boomers have left us a husk of what once was a great country.
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Originally Posted By TomWanks⏩
Wasn’t really trying to correct youOkay brah, sorry for not using the exact phucking industry average salary figures in my misc comment. Thanks for the completely necessary, 100% non-homosexual correction.
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I saw a job posting that wanted a masters degree and only paid $19 an hour.
A ton of places have been doing this **** for the last 10 years. Looks like people are tired of it.
A ton of places have been doing this **** for the last 10 years. Looks like people are tired of it.
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Originally Posted By TBO1313⏩
Yea its a pretty niche field…normally we would get applications anyways, regardless of qualifications. Now its none qualified or notThe lack of punctuation threw me off lol. There has to be some reason people aren't applying. Is it dangerous? Is it the type of job that very few are qualified for? $30 an hour is 10k over the medianhouseholdincome in NC so if nobody is applying there is a good reason
Like I said earlier the only jobs where I live that aren't getting filled are the types of jobs where you couldn't afford to live on your own. I talked to a guy a the state DOT yesterday and he said they aren't having any problem filling openings. They have great state benefits but the pay starts between $20 and $25k and the work is hard. I think one of the reasons they can get people to work is because there is a clear path to progression in that career. Sure, it starts low but if you show up everyday and do your work you can move up pretty quick and even if you don't stay there forever you have some experience for your resume. Retail and food service isn't like that.
Like I said earlier the only jobs where I live that aren't getting filled are the types of jobs where you couldn't afford to live on your own. I talked to a guy a the state DOT yesterday and he said they aren't having any problem filling openings. They have great state benefits but the pay starts between $20 and $25k and the work is hard. I think one of the reasons they can get people to work is because there is a clear path to progression in that career. Sure, it starts low but if you show up everyday and do your work you can move up pretty quick and even if you don't stay there forever you have some experience for your resume. Retail and food service isn't like that.
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
In some industries they eliminated a lot of people's position for no reasons. I am in the hotel/ service industry and that's what happened to a lot people. Why would you back to an industry that don't value you ..Now they are struggling? Let them deal with the consequencesI don't get it. Covid comes and everyone loses their jobs. Jobs come back and no one wants to work. Wtf even is this?
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Originally Posted By TBO1313⏩
Well yeah, if you're not earning enough to support a family don't have one. Even as a proud member of rawdog only crew I always pulled out until I was clearing enough that I didn't worry about that. As usual the problem here is poor decision making rather than something the government needs to do.That's the point though... Forget supporting a family, if you can't support yourself through your job why do it? I understand there needs to be jobs for teenagers and such but don't expect adults to jump all over $8 an hour gigs. At that kind of money you might even be losing money after factoring in gas and increased caloric requirements as opposed to rotting. No one has any trouble filling jobs in the $30k, which isn't a lot of money btw, and up range around here its just the minimum wage 32 hour a week jobs that go unfilled
Edit: Wizard above me said the same thing but much more concise
Edit: Wizard above me said the same thing but much more concise
I'd bet a bunch of teenagers in today's world don't work. I know when I was a teenager I'd work so I could have that $200 to blow in Daytona Beach or trying to hobble together a keg party at the house, but I think today they just rot on TikTock using phones their parents pay for. Why work if you don't do anything that requires money?
On the positive side if they can't find staff they'll do a combination of wage raises and automation so the people who actually want to work will make more.
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Originally Posted By OptimusTrajan⏩
I'd say it's been like 15+ yrs. When the job market was tight after the recession. Every job wanted a bachelors. Then around 2017 when I was looking for a new job hard, yes everyone wanted a masters. There's plenty of corporate jobs out there that don't really require an education at all. Some are that simple for sure.I saw a job posting that wanted a masters degree and only paid $19 an hour.
A ton of places have been doing this **** for the last 10 years. Looks like people are tired of it.
A ton of places have been doing this **** for the last 10 years. Looks like people are tired of it.
And the job listings make no sense. Entry/junior level job, 3-5 yrs experience, masters preferred is pretty damn typical in a job listing.
If corporations can give up that notion, it would change things a lot.
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
I stopped working due to financial independenceI don't get it. Covid comes and everyone loses their jobs. Jobs come back and no one wants to work. Wtf even is this?
Maybe other people did too?
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
Agreed. Well said.Ah, well this is where I think UBI would be better than what we have now. Because at present you can actually get penalized for trying to work and earn money.
Benefit cliffs, aka a well meant, but very stupid feature of public benefit programs.
If people got a flat "per head" payment then there would be no disincentive to work and earn more money. As is earning $1 too much can leave you thousands of dollars worse off in terms of government benefits.
Also we spend a lot of money employing paper pushers to administrate all of the different programs.
If we paid "per head", had single payer healthcare [not necessarily "free" to the end user], and served actually nutritious high quality free meals in the schools for all children I think a lot of things in this country would get much better.
There would no longer be an incentive to NOT marry the parent of your child [more government money] or to have MORE children [more government money] or to work FEWER hours [more government money].
Employers wouldn't be burdened with the cost of health insurance which would be a huge boon to small employers in particular. Employees wouldn't be tied to work because they need the health insurance [more entrepreneurs, more people able to retire].
I know that most miscer see UBI [or negative income tax] and single payer as anti-capitalist, but I sincerely think that the actual outcome would be positive.
Benefit cliffs, aka a well meant, but very stupid feature of public benefit programs.
If people got a flat "per head" payment then there would be no disincentive to work and earn more money. As is earning $1 too much can leave you thousands of dollars worse off in terms of government benefits.
Also we spend a lot of money employing paper pushers to administrate all of the different programs.
If we paid "per head", had single payer healthcare [not necessarily "free" to the end user], and served actually nutritious high quality free meals in the schools for all children I think a lot of things in this country would get much better.
There would no longer be an incentive to NOT marry the parent of your child [more government money] or to have MORE children [more government money] or to work FEWER hours [more government money].
Employers wouldn't be burdened with the cost of health insurance which would be a huge boon to small employers in particular. Employees wouldn't be tied to work because they need the health insurance [more entrepreneurs, more people able to retire].
I know that most miscer see UBI [or negative income tax] and single payer as anti-capitalist, but I sincerely think that the actual outcome would be positive.
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I think people are waking up to the scam that is full time employment.
99% of us slave away just to barely get by, as the rich get richer.
Our lives were not meant to be spent "working." There are hundreds of studies that prove it.
Enough to eat and a place to stay plus free time to be spent exploring our world >>>>> 40 hr work week to make 40k. Your quality of life literally goes down being full time employed, regardless of salary.
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99% of us slave away just to barely get by, as the rich get richer.
Our lives were not meant to be spent "working." There are hundreds of studies that prove it.
Enough to eat and a place to stay plus free time to be spent exploring our world >>>>> 40 hr work week to make 40k. Your quality of life literally goes down being full time employed, regardless of salary.
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