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09-02-2021, 11:51 AM
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what is the MISC opinion on the US pullling out of AFGHAN yet you see on the news
how terrible it is within just days?
we went to war there for how many years? the longest in US history?
we pull out. what objectives were accomplished?
Im guessing all this media garbage is just going to be used as an excuse for us to go back in and be there for another 16 years.
are the American people really this stupid?
we went to war there for how many years? the longest in US history?
we pull out. what objectives were accomplished?
Im guessing all this media garbage is just going to be used as an excuse for us to go back in and be there for another 16 years.
are the American people really this stupid?
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09-02-2021, 11:52 AM
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Proud of Biden for pulling US forces out despite the establishment blowback srs.
09-02-2021, 11:53 AM
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a completely avoidable tragedy if the sitting potus was fit for duty - which clearly he is not
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09-02-2021, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted By DrugsToGetBig⏩
You wanted us to stay in Afghanistan?a completely avoidable tragedy if the sitting potus was fit for duty - which clearly he is not
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09-02-2021, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted By BrightThru2014⏩
Literally not a single person in America wanted that, yet you guys always go back to this argument for some reason.You wanted us to stay in Afghanistan?
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09-02-2021, 12:04 PM
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We lost the war, which I never expected to win. Insurgency just works that way.
The way it went down was a gigantic disaster. Didn't evacuate civilians first, knew they would overun the country yet didn't destroy weapons, 13 marines needlessly sacrificed. This makes an abortion clinic look good.
The way it went down was a gigantic disaster. Didn't evacuate civilians first, knew they would overun the country yet didn't destroy weapons, 13 marines needlessly sacrificed. This makes an abortion clinic look good.
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09-02-2021, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted By xxAchillesxx⏩
What part of "I'm proud of Biden for getting us out" equaled "this pull out was conducted competently"...Literally not a single person in America wanted that, yet you guys always go back to this argument for some reason.
09-02-2021, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted By BrightThru2014⏩
i wanted us to maintain a presence to avoid the exact situation we are in - it is the only way to keep those savages from doing exactly what they just didYou wanted us to stay in Afghanistan?
inb4 we were there for 20 years! just let them figure it out on their own
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09-02-2021, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted By BrightThru2014⏩
Your response to "a completely avoidable tragedy if the sitting potus was fit for duty - which clearly he is not" being "You wanted us to stay in Afghanistan?". If you feel this pull out wasn't conducted competently then you would, in all likelihood, agree with "a completely avoidable tragedy". You didn't and instead offered a tired strawman rebuttle.What part of "I'm proud of Biden for getting us out" equaled "this pull out was conducted competently"...
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09-02-2021, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted By dannyg1217⏩
well if russia couldnt do it after all those years what made us think we could?We lost the war, which I never expected to win. Insurgency just works that way.
The way it went down was a gigantic disaster. Didn't evacuate civilians first, knew they would overun the country yet didn't destroy weapons, 13 marines needlessly sacrificed. This makes an abortion clinic look good.
The way it went down was a gigantic disaster. Didn't evacuate civilians first, knew they would overun the country yet didn't destroy weapons, 13 marines needlessly sacrificed. This makes an abortion clinic look good.
somebody got rich off of it., not to mention keeping the drug trade flowing
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09-02-2021, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted By latverian41⏩
Tons of objectives were accomplished. Namely, massive profits were made for military contractors and the giant defense machine. Plenty of politicians and high ranking officers secured future million dollar+ salary jobs from these contractors upon retirement.we pull out. what objectives were accomplished?
Originally Posted By latverian41⏩
Half of the population is far stupider than you could possibly imagine.are the American people really this stupid?
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09-02-2021, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted By lockdev⏩
agreed on both fronts!Tons of objectives were accomplished. Namely, massive profits were made for military contractors and the giant defense machine.
Half of the population is far stupider than you could possibly imagine.
Half of the population is far stupider than you could possibly imagine.
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09-02-2021, 12:38 PM
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People don't seem to connect the dots. The fact that Afghanistan fell so quickly to the Taliban tells you: the effort needed to build this country in a way America deemed "acceptable", would take more than a year. More than 5. More than 10. It would be a lifetime. No matter what there would be bloodshed.
Afghanistan really shouldn't be one country, it should honestly be separated. The whole country is tribal-based. There is no national ideology.
What is so hard to understand? People living outside Kabul probably don't even know what the **** that city even looks like, or have even been. Was the withdrawal executed perfect? Hell no. But people that say, "we should still be in there!" don't seem to understand we were never going to succeed in completely changing the country.
Afghanistan really shouldn't be one country, it should honestly be separated. The whole country is tribal-based. There is no national ideology.
What is so hard to understand? People living outside Kabul probably don't even know what the **** that city even looks like, or have even been. Was the withdrawal executed perfect? Hell no. But people that say, "we should still be in there!" don't seem to understand we were never going to succeed in completely changing the country.
09-02-2021, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted By SniXSniPe⏩
this man knows his history. it is all just a bunch of tribal belts.People don't seem to connect the dots. The fact that Afghanistan fell so quickly to the Taliban tells you: the effort needed to build this country in a way America deemed "acceptable", would take more than a year. More than 5. More than 10. It would be a lifetime. No matter what there would be bloodshed.
Afghanistan really shouldn't be one country, it should honestly be separated. The whole country is tribal-based. There is no national ideology.
What is so hard to understand? People living outside Kabul probably don't even know what the **** that city even looks like, or have even been. Was the withdrawal executed perfect? Hell no. But people that say, "we should still be in there!" don't seem to understand we were never going to succeed in completely changing the country.
Afghanistan really shouldn't be one country, it should honestly be separated. The whole country is tribal-based. There is no national ideology.
What is so hard to understand? People living outside Kabul probably don't even know what the **** that city even looks like, or have even been. Was the withdrawal executed perfect? Hell no. But people that say, "we should still be in there!" don't seem to understand we were never going to succeed in completely changing the country.
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09-02-2021, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted By latverian41⏩
This is true, but the withdrawal could have been executed 10000x times better. I don't think really anybody actually wants us to stay.this man knows his history. it is all just a bunch of tribal belts.
09-02-2021, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted By latverian41⏩
The way Biden pulled out is not popular and lives were lost. Do you really think he's going to send troops back in?how terrible it is within just days?
we went to war there for how many years? the longest in US history?
we pull out. what objectives were accomplished?
Im guessing all this media garbage is just going to be used as an excuse for us to go back in and be there for another 16 years.
are the American people really this stupid?
we went to war there for how many years? the longest in US history?
we pull out. what objectives were accomplished?
Im guessing all this media garbage is just going to be used as an excuse for us to go back in and be there for another 16 years.
are the American people really this stupid?
Trump said all the way back in 2017 it would be a mistake to just pull out and leave a vacuum. Which is exactly what Biden ended up doing.
Maybe the vacuum was unavoidable, but Biden should have known not to leave any citizens there.
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