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post 1647955623 09-28-2021, 03:13 PM
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I've actually spoken to a billionaire before. He mentioned that it's easier to compound your investments the more money you have and that when he dies he would donate most of it to charity. He also mentioned that it's like a highschore table where you want to keep improving your rank.
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Originally Posted By ooph⏩
Again nothing materialistic about it. It's chasing the high. After $15k/mo you have all the materialistic things you realistically want. Or you can afford it if you choose to, so you don't buy it because you dont actually need it.

You get that excitement from reeling in a big fish, other people get it from day trading or closing a big deal, whatever it is. To some people that gives them the same result as your 'relaxing' or 'fun' activity.

I have plenty of fun things I do, but it doesn't change that my day still consist of wanting to 'make more' or 'do more'.
That's just a mindset (I'd argue a destructive one). It's very driven type A, and my experience is such folks never reach contentment as they can't just sit still. I have peace of mind with the financial security I have, but I actively pick doing LESS work to have less stress even though it would lead to more money. I don't even do simple things my colleagues do (let alone the more complex stuff) even though it would mean 2-300k more per year, because I don't have to to live comfortably.
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post 1647961533 09-28-2021, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted By ooph⏩
Again nothing materialistic about it. It's chasing the high. After $15k/mo you have all the materialistic things you realistically want. Or you can afford it if you choose to, so you don't buy it because you dont actually need it.

You get that excitement from reeling in a big fish, other people get it from day trading or closing a big deal, whatever it is. To some people that gives them the same result as your 'relaxing' or 'fun' activity.

I have plenty of fun things I do, but it doesn't change that my day still consist of wanting to 'make more' or 'do more'.
So you're degen gambling or grinding 80hrs/wk all of which gets you nowhere.

'Chasing a high'. That's just idiotic and I'd probably say something is mentally wrong with you. That's definitely not normal behavior. Most people are just happy to be around family and friends, not chasing imaginary digits.
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the whole thing is pointless when you have a paid off house and no parasites
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Originally Posted By roughinhouse⏩
I've actually spoken to a billionaire before. He mentioned that it's easier to compound your investments the more money you have and that when he dies he would donate most of it to charity. He also mentioned that it's like a highschore table where you want to keep improving your rank.
Yeah this retarded. If I was a billionaire I'd try become a King or Warlord or some ****. That's how you catch a high
post 1647962883 09-28-2021, 05:17 PM
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With money comes power, and if power doesn't come money offers you the ability (at the very least) to give just about everybody a giant middle finger if they don't like you. I have my character faults but my social circle doesn't call me on it because i stick to myself most of the time to begin with, and they know i make more money than 2 or 3 of them combined.

From my experience in various tax brackets, i'd have to say $400,000/yr is a great coasting point. It's like 20k per month after taxes, that's enough earning power to buy your way out the vast majority of problems, your driving german luxury comfortably, you're eating a nobu comfortably, you're living in a nice neighborhood comfortably. This is ASSUMING you're not a complete fuking moron with your income and live like someone only earning 200k and invest most of it.
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post 1647965383 09-28-2021, 06:04 PM
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people need to level up their lifestyle the more money they receive instead of living below the means.

jump from 50k to 100k means usually 1400-1500$/mo rent or mortage to a 2200-2300/mo payment, versus having the same 1400$ payment at 100k

But i think it's enough when pepole's side hustles pay for their bills. Everything after that is extra credit, bonus round money almost.
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post 1647965553 09-28-2021, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
I disagree. Plenty of boomers and folks of younger generations don't care about being rich. Their highlight is fishing, Kayaking, surfing, etc. For a lot of folks, money is a means to quit work. Overall happiness would go up for a lot of people if they could spend more time with their family and doing fun simple things.

Maybe it's the country boy in me, but I don't care about all that materialistic ****
This. Don't give a **** about materialistic stuff. I'll drive a 2008 honda and buy my clothes from value village if it means i can live without worrying about money.
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post 1647966383 09-28-2021, 06:25 PM
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Because the cost of living keeps rising and I as a single male who makes 80K a year cannot afford to live comfortably on my own in a nice neighborhood
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The same reason miscers that are 6' feel like they're short and often complain about it.

Human nature, never satisfied.It's the reason humans keep striving for more.

Not necessarily a bad thing, but everyone should recognize it.

People devote their entire lives to being monks to seek that sense of satisfaction/fulfillment.
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post 1647967333 09-28-2021, 06:45 PM
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In the US, once someone reaches like age 35ish and is settled down, there isn't much else to do other than making money. Literally. I have enough money saved right now to travel for like probably 10ish years straight if I want, and for some reason I can't stop working and just go on like 5 trips per year instead.

People in other countries somehow are traveling constantly and make it work on like $10k per year.
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer⏩
The same reason miscers that are 6' feel like they're short and often complain about it.

Human nature, never satisfied.It's the reason humans keep striving for more.

Not necessarily a bad thing, but everyone should recognize it.

People devote their entire lives to being monks to seek that sense of satisfaction/fulfillment.
Gonna disagree with this post. There's plenty of folks that's satisfied. If you ask me, it's mainly city dwellers that's depressed with social media and Ads around them constantly. Not all of em, but a lot. Meanwhile Go to some small town Montana and folks are just happy being around family and nice views.
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
Gonna disagree with this post. There's plenty of folks that's satisfied. If you ask me, it's mainly city dwellers that's depressed with social media and Ads around them constantly. Not all of em, but a lot. Meanwhile Go to some small town Montana and folks are just happy being around family and nice views.
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man.. miscers must be some rich folk

dude i work with was the youngest person to take out a mortgage at his bank.. had a house at like 22 (i think, may have been younger)

is now in his 40's. and i heard him describing a bank that requires a 5k balance as a "rich folk" bank

like... lol. then ****s in here talking about 20k/ month not being enough.

inb4 you hang out with the wrong crowd. i know plenty. my bros wife's brother made internet explorer with bill gates, she got like hundreds of thousands for graduating high school, etc., etc.

but i'm still not dumb enough to think that's the real world. or that's how most people live
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer⏩
I really want to believe you, because that's what I want to do. Retire young, get out of this rat race.
Yeah I'm tired of working too and I'm only 31 lol. Gotta figure something out, form some sort of 15 year plan to get out the rat race.
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Work for your freedom, not for things. Working for things will never make you happy. Working for financial freedom is the move. I have plenty of nice cars, nice house, etc. None of it has made me permanently happy. Building my business makes me happy tho... working with customers i have cultivated makes me happy...hanging with my daughter and my beautiful, encouraging wife makes me happy. Money doesn't mean chit at a certain point. It's a tool, but shouldn't be viewed as your only goal in life. If you check out of the rat race and end the new car, new phone, new tv every 2 years cycle, you will be infinitely happier.
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I want to take care of my daughters education if she decides to further it with out her having to work her way through school then being in debt. That alone drives me.
I dont care if I have to work 8 days a week to achieve that.
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Because the reality is you have a fixed sum to get to to retire, say $10M. If you're not there, you have much work to do.
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Probably what happens, is you make money, and then realize you want a new house so you want more money. Then you get the money and a little while later you're like I want to get a nicer car, and then you get it, and now you want a boat. The average person will always want something thats a little bit nicer, so they'll always want more money.
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Never enough for me, I want to keep climbing as high as I can to where I can live comfortably , so about the 100+, really 150-200 range.

I like most people though would say I’d initially do it for myself but eventually it’s going to be more about securing a future for my family and descendants, only to probably be all spent up by the 3rd or 4th gen but it’s life
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Originally Posted By MyBaddBrah⏩
Because the reality is you have a fixed sum to get to to retire, say $10M. If you're not there, you have much work to do.
You have $300-400k per year expenses?
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer⏩
You have $300-400k per year expenses?
Depends when you retire. If you retire at 65 you don't need that much. If you're retiring younger, 60, 55, 50, 45, you need a lot more. That answers Op's question. People want to make more and more money becausethey do need more.
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Originally Posted By MyBaddBrah⏩
Depends when you retire. If you retire at 65 you don't need that much. If you're retiring younger, 60, 55, 50, 45, you need a lot more. That answers Op's question. People want to make more and more money becausethey do need more.
It does depend when you retire, but 3% SWR is pretty low.

Look athttps://www.cfiresim.com/7218a977-cd...a-8de3675ba5fb-- $3.2M with $100k withdrawals has 100% success rate over a 50 YEAR retirement.
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer⏩
It does depend when you retire, but 3% SWR is pretty low.

Look athttps://www.cfiresim.com/7218a977-cd...a-8de3675ba5fb-- $3.2M with $100k withdrawals has 100% success rate over a 50 YEAR retirement.
What is SWR? Basically pulling from a cash account?
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Originally Posted By MyBaddBrah⏩
What is SWR? Basically pulling from a cash account?
It's "safe withdrawal rate".

According to that tool I was correct w/ $300k expenses per year with $10M over 50 years.

So how much do you expect to have in expenses per year? That's why I'm saying $10M is unnecessarily high.
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