Thread: Natty physique competitor
10-13-2021, 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted By ayyy⏩
This was my main problem trying to compete. I had to eat 4-5k calories a day just to maintain a size of about 195 and if I stopped the weight would vanish fast. Once you reach your genetic potential it's hard to bust through without riding a bike. But I'm also a pure ectomorph. Funny thing was I switched to endurance racing and it felt 1000% more natural for my body.there are absolutely a **** ton of people who at the leanness of the pic you posted could only get to that size, there are a lot of people who's body just do not hold on to muscle when they lean down no matter how perfect they do everything. I have dog chit genetics, my body was never supposed to have any appreciable amount of muscle
10-13-2021, 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted By WoofieNugget⏩
This is really interesting because I am the genetic opposite - was always chunky, all the men in my family were fat. Not obese, but a permanent 25-30% body fat with broad shoulders, revolving around the 6' margin. When I cut, I've had to go as low as 1600 or else my weight wouldn't budge. When 'bulking' in the past, I'd gain mounds of fat off 2500-2800 calories. It's efficient, but it's painful to eat this low especially when you have been cursed with a mammoth appetite. I can eat 2 large pizzas myself just lying around. Cuts are fuking brutal and not worth it anymore to get a few oz of lower abdomen fat to leave. srs.This was my main problem trying to compete. I had to eat 4-5k calories a day just to maintain a size of about 195 and if I stopped the weight would vanish fast. Once you reach your genetic potential it's hard to bust through without riding a bike. But I'm also a pure ectomorph. Funny thing was I switched to endurance racing and it felt 1000% more natural for my body.
As mentioned previously, 10 years of dedication, consistency, and sacrifice have produced this physique. I'm at the leanest I've ever been and most comfortable revolving around a full 175. Mind you I used to be 215 fkn lol. Thought I was gaining mass and all that. Early training ignorance.



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10-13-2021, 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted By lightsarefallin⏩
Your forearms look fooking joocy, shame about your lack of a chestThis is really interesting because I am the genetic opposite - was always chunky, all the men in my family were fat. Not obese, but a permanent 25-30% body fat with broad shoulders, revolving around the 6' margin. When I cut, I've had to go as low as 1600 or else my weight wouldn't budge. When 'bulking' in the past, I'd gain mounds of fat off 2500-2800 calories. It's efficient, but it's painful to eat this low especially when you have been cursed with a mammoth appetite. I can eat 2 large pizzas myself just lying around. Cuts are fuking brutal and not worth it anymore to get a few oz of lower abdomen fat to leave. srs.
As mentioned previously, 10 years of dedication, consistency, and sacrifice have produced this physique. I'm at the leanest I've ever been and most comfortable revolving around a full 175. Mind you I used to be 215 fkn lol. Thought I was gaining mass and all that. Early training ignorance.



I am pretty much retired from the bulking/cutting cycles as it isn't worth it now. I'd rather maintain this look.
As mentioned previously, 10 years of dedication, consistency, and sacrifice have produced this physique. I'm at the leanest I've ever been and most comfortable revolving around a full 175. Mind you I used to be 215 fkn lol. Thought I was gaining mass and all that. Early training ignorance.



I am pretty much retired from the bulking/cutting cycles as it isn't worth it now. I'd rather maintain this look.
10-13-2021, 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted By wd0694820⏩
The natty limit for most people? Lmao athletic 15yo’s look bigger than this guy.He’s obv in good shape but do you think this is the natty limit for most people?
He’s had a fitness insta for 4 years so has been lifting for at least that lI got
Do you think he has bad genetics ?
He’s had a fitness insta for 4 years so has been lifting for at least that lI got
Do you think he has bad genetics ?
He looks like he has potential for good shape, but if he’s been training for over 4 years then he should probably just run tren.
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10-13-2021, 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted By wd0694820⏩
Brah, people explained this to you at least 5 times in this thread. what's so difficult to understand? JFLImo people ITT underestimate the variation in human genetic potential, if hes been lifting 5 years he cant just gain another 20lbs of muslce
The guy's been in gyms for 4 yrs, but evidently haven't been training properly. He needs a good coach. You seeing his insta doesn't give me any confidence judging by your comments lol
Listen to people in this thread who know more than you
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10-13-2021, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted By wd0694820⏩
lmao no...you really shouldn't make these kind of guesses if you never bench, there's too much difference, and it's a very poor assumptionUnfortunately for those of us who arent black, we can only look like the guy in the OP
Alos would have thought your bench eb higher, mines about that but youre a lot more developed. Well I dont actually do barbell but can DB 100 * 8 so Id iimagine id be around about 275 barbell
Alos would have thought your bench eb higher, mines about that but youre a lot more developed. Well I dont actually do barbell but can DB 100 * 8 so Id iimagine id be around about 275 barbell
But for reference, when i could bench 275 for 1, i was probably DB benching 110 for 10+ reps lol.
10-13-2021, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted By lightsarefallin⏩
Miring SRS, I think we have similar genetics and family is similar, all chunky , mine are actually fat.This is really interesting because I am the genetic opposite - was always chunky, all the men in my family were fat. Not obese, but a permanent 25-30% body fat with broad shoulders, revolving around the 6' margin. When I cut, I've had to go as low as 1600 or else my weight wouldn't budge. When 'bulking' in the past, I'd gain mounds of fat off 2500-2800 calories. It's efficient, but it's painful to eat this low especially when you have been cursed with a mammoth appetite. I can eat 2 large pizzas myself just lying around. Cuts are fuking brutal and not worth it anymore to get a few oz of lower abdomen fat to leave. srs.
As mentioned previously, 10 years of dedication, consistency, and sacrifice have produced this physique. I'm at the leanest I've ever been and most comfortable revolving around a full 175. Mind you I used to be 215 fkn lol. Thought I was gaining mass and all that. Early training ignorance.



I am pretty much retired from the bulking/cutting cycles as it isn't worth it now. I'd rather maintain this look.
As mentioned previously, 10 years of dedication, consistency, and sacrifice have produced this physique. I'm at the leanest I've ever been and most comfortable revolving around a full 175. Mind you I used to be 215 fkn lol. Thought I was gaining mass and all that. Early training ignorance.



I am pretty much retired from the bulking/cutting cycles as it isn't worth it now. I'd rather maintain this look.
For chest, I took out bench press completely and replaced it with DBs with various angles, and cables, it made a difference but I'm sure you tried that.
What's your height and maintenance calories to maintain your current physique?
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10-13-2021, 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted By Ben*******⏩
Yeah an athletic 15 year old with really good genetics thouvh, he mogs me at 15The natty limit for most people? Lmao athletic 15yo’s look bigger than this guy.
He looks like he has potential for good shape, but if he’s been training for over 4 years then he should probably just run tren.
He looks like he has potential for good shape, but if he’s been training for over 4 years then he should probably just run tren.
10-13-2021, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted By wd0694820⏩
fukin a way she goes budYour forearms look fooking joocy, shame about your lack of a chest
Originally Posted By plebmaximus⏩
I've stopped tracking religiously. I just eyeball it and try to revolve around the 2200 mark. I know it's low, but apart from lifting and hiking, I don't have a physical job, and I'm getting older. I've been IF'ing it for a very long time so I usually eat 2 meals a day, one at 12pm and one at 6-7pm. It makes it very difficult to be too much in a surplus.Miring SRS, I think we have similar genetics and family is similar, all chunky , mine are actually fat.
For chest, I took out bench press completely and replaced it with DBs with various angles, and cables, it made a difference but I'm sure you tried that.
What's your height and maintenance calories to maintain your current physique?
For chest, I took out bench press completely and replaced it with DBs with various angles, and cables, it made a difference but I'm sure you tried that.
What's your height and maintenance calories to maintain your current physique?
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10-13-2021, 06:39 AM
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Judging by OP's replies and questions i'd guess he is the guy in the pics and or he is a gym friend who you want our opinions on.
Congrats on squats and milk for 2 years. Decent leg development. Now try staying at that bodyfat relatively and gaining 10lbs/year for 5 years. Then make an assessment. He/you has a decent base to build with now. What i mean is he has enough development to tell strong areas and weak areas. The worst thing this guy could do is jump into competitions wheres he in a constant cycle of cutting and bulking. Just "lean bulk" for several years and report back.
Congrats on squats and milk for 2 years. Decent leg development. Now try staying at that bodyfat relatively and gaining 10lbs/year for 5 years. Then make an assessment. He/you has a decent base to build with now. What i mean is he has enough development to tell strong areas and weak areas. The worst thing this guy could do is jump into competitions wheres he in a constant cycle of cutting and bulking. Just "lean bulk" for several years and report back.
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10-13-2021, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted By wd0694820⏩
What the **** do you mean "natty limit" the kid is like 18 yrs old or some ****. You don't reach your limit after a year and a half of lifting weights.He’s obv in good shape but do you think this is the natty limit for most people?
He’s had a fitness insta for 4 years so has been lifting for at least that lI got
Do you think he has bad genetics ?
He’s had a fitness insta for 4 years so has been lifting for at least that lI got
Do you think he has bad genetics ?
10-13-2021, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted By naich⏩
I’m not I posted my pic ITT, I just want to demonstrate the genetic spectrumJudging by OP's replies and questions i'd guess he is the guy in the pics and or he is a gym friend who you want our opinions on.
Congrats on squats and milk for 2 years. Decent leg development. Now try staying at that bodyfat relatively and gaining 10lbs/year for 5 years. Then make an assessment. He/you has a decent base to build with now. What i mean is he has enough development to tell strong areas and weak areas. The worst thing this guy could do is jump into competitions wheres he in a constant cycle of cutting and bulking. Just "lean bulk" for several years and report back.
Congrats on squats and milk for 2 years. Decent leg development. Now try staying at that bodyfat relatively and gaining 10lbs/year for 5 years. Then make an assessment. He/you has a decent base to build with now. What i mean is he has enough development to tell strong areas and weak areas. The worst thing this guy could do is jump into competitions wheres he in a constant cycle of cutting and bulking. Just "lean bulk" for several years and report back.
10-13-2021, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted By lightsarefallin⏩
2200 is plenty, I'm in the same ballpark, with the Friday big junk food meal. You found what works for you!fukin a way she goes bud
I've stopped tracking religiously. I just eyeball it and try to revolve around the 2200 mark. I know it's low, but apart from lifting and hiking, I don't have a physical job, and I'm getting older. I've been IF'ing it for a very long time so I usually eat 2 meals a day, one at 12pm and one at 6-7pm. It makes it very difficult to be too much in a surplus.
I've stopped tracking religiously. I just eyeball it and try to revolve around the 2200 mark. I know it's low, but apart from lifting and hiking, I don't have a physical job, and I'm getting older. I've been IF'ing it for a very long time so I usually eat 2 meals a day, one at 12pm and one at 6-7pm. It makes it very difficult to be too much in a surplus.
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