See how there's still guys in the picture for these ladies? "Men don't like that I won't cook", "men don't like my education", etc. Whatever, they're still talking to men.

There are ZERO women in the picture for the average incel. ZERO. Speaking for myself, I have no options at work. I have no female friends within 2000 miles. I have no female friends-of-friends, because all my male brahs are also incels without any hope. I have no options on online dating.

Women just don't get socially cut off the way low-status men do.

God the incel mentality is ****ing pathetic.

You live in San Diego for ****s sake

If a broke ass tradie apprentice with a clapped out Ford truck and a gap between his teeth can get laid frequently here when he puts in the effort it you can too pussy

what a pathetic mentality

“ no one likes me”

Yeah , I wouldn’t want to be around a mopey cuck if I was a woman either.

the average incel doesnt have a choice; they just wants to be acknowledged and loved by the opposite sex but they are too autistic or women wont give them the time of day

the average femcell is single by choice. they could easily find a man but their standards are too high; they have below average looks yet want above average men

God the incel mentality is ****ing pathetic.

You live in San Diego for ****s sake

If a broke ass tradie apprentice with a clapped out Ford truck and a gap between his teeth can get laid frequently here when he puts in the effort it you can too pussy

what a pathetic mentality

“ no one likes me”

Yeah , I wouldn’t want to be around a mopey cuck if I was a woman either.

But you also admit to having sex with trannies, so I'm sure cock counts for at least a portion of your "getting laid frequently"

I don't think the guy you quoted has that option

Try less than 1% pal , I only **** pornstar tier ones anyway

Pretty rare even in Cali

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeands...tary-celibates

Read the whole article if you have time, otherwise here are some snippets:


Cliffs:
-Male incels bad, female incels understandable
-Women don't want ONSs and hookups, would rather a relationship because casual sex is unfulfilling
-Beauty standards, etc etc
-Women coping with being alone through blogs and internet communities for other FA women
-These women are single because men are not trying hard enough to get the women they aren't attracted to in the first place. "men don't approach me"
-Men don't feel like they are needed and have no role to play if women can financially provide for themselves



The article is a lot on the feminist-bull**** persuasion, but the issue still needs consideration. In my opinion this is all because of a lack of proper dialogue between the genders. Bad gender relations is something that needs to be addressed if we are going to see any improvement in this avenue of society. Women dismiss male incels as ignorant misogynists who feel entitled to free casual sex; Men dismiss female FAs because they're just too picky and can get dick any time they want. Everyone takes these issues as face value rather than trying to come to a mutual understanding of one another's wants and needs.

I don't see that male FAs are entitled to sex, rather they can't understand or navigate what women say vs what they do; a majority of the mgtow/redpill content I see is calling women out on double standards and contradicting actions. For instance when a woman says she hates jerks and wants a nice guy, then proceeds to reject the next 100 nice guys she meets. Male FAs also need to understand that men are not women; getting dick any time is not going to satiate her. A lot of guys come off as creepy and autistic as all fuk, putting women off all the more. I'm not seeing a lot of desire for understanding or consideration of the other side of the line in the sand. Men are rational-beings and women are emotional-beings. Men are from Mars, women are from Venus.

Thoughts?

less than one percent? Are we looking at a tradie that failed math or did the gap-toothed tradie you mentioned earlier really bed over 100 different women? your sig also says you get prostitutes so maybe that's why the number. guys who pay for sex shouldn't really be LOLing at incels. Just saying.

But you also admit to having sex with trannies, so I'm sure cock counts for at least a portion of your "getting laid frequently"

I don't think the guy you quoted has that option

High value male
High value woman
Average woman
Average man
Below average man
Below average woman

that is the hierarchy. while average men have it bad relatively, i don't think anyone has it worse than below average women. it is extremely hard for them to validate their existence in todays society. and once they reach their 30s. it is terribly over for them.

and before you say they can get sex, yeah but they'll be known as a hole only. a quick fix. sorry but i'd rather be a male incel than seen as that by the opposite gender.

I’ve paid for sex once dude , I made that sig during the LM and cope fear craze

Keep feeling sorry for yourself or for that ******* ^

There’s more to life than ass/pussy but by all means keep obsessing about it

Agreed and to especially first point in bold.

In addition to the second point highlighted in bold, here's what I suspect is happening:

Women are femcels because 99% of average men present themselves to women (unknowingly or not) as perverts and creeps and fail to demonstrate honor, dignity or respect, which is critical to building attraction at the base level. (Just for the record, women are just as equally guilty, but that's for another topic.)

Instead of building attraction through respect, men throw it out the window and stoop to the lowest grounds possible just to get laid out of desperation. This acting out of desperation in sadly a near-like pig manner is repugnant to the average women and embarrassing to be seen with or associated with in public.

Woman's "hold out" status is waiting for a man who can represent himself well without being a desperate degenerate upfront. I believe the average man is capable of this, however, sadly, they're not demonstrating it. ( Although they may demonstrate it to each other, they're not demonstrating it to the average woman.)

Instead average men are presenting themselves in accordance to the lies sold to them by the Casual Sex Industrial Complex that all women are secretly sex maniacs who crave getting railed 24/7. Men got duped in believing it's okay for them to "let it all hang out" and somehow the average women is attracted to that. The reality is the exact opposite for most women. Only a small portion are into that, the ones who make money from it and the ones who are mentally ill.

Sadly, I believe Millennial women also were duped into believing these same lies and being such gullible sheep, they got peer pressured into acting this part the worst. This confused the men even more and now a large portion of men are still conflating role-playing the feminist narrative to "prove equality" with the reality that casual relations is against women's nature.

Once women's peer pressure died down in their late 20s is when their regret set in, and their desire to be more in tuned with their true nature to nest and nuture, as opposed to hunting for lays. Meanwhile the men are feeling duped, the women sold them a sex maniac presentation in college, why the change afterwards?

But I don't buy most women ever were sex maniacs to begin, I think they got peer pressured into role-playing it during the time they were the most gullible and susceptable to lies and caving into peer pressure (18-25 range).

Women aren't biologically wired to hunt for lays, they want to nest and nuture. Thousands of years of evolutionary history shows it.

Hopefully the Zoomers can learn from their mistakes.

Cliffs:
Feminism sold a pack of lies.
Biggest lie was women are equal to men, especially in wanting to hunt for new lays as opposed to nesting.
A few people got rich from it.
Both genders got duped;
Both genders acted in accordance to the lies sold to the them;
Both genders took huge losses from the fallout;
All generations got hit, millennials took the biggest losses;
Many are still suffering these losses;
Hopefully Zoomers can course correct (or at least reverse trend).

Agreed with all of this. I think the oversexualization of our culture is definitely a big part of the problem between gender relations, especially with guys being too desperate to get laid. I'm sure if modesty was what was pushed rather than quantity > quality, there would be a lot less men tripping over each other to get scraps. Most men would be content just jerking off to porn and holding out for the better women.

Cliffs:
Feminism sold a pack of lies.
Biggest lie was women are equal to men, especially in wanting to hunt for new lays as opposed to nesting.