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post 1650618733 11-11-2021, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted By freshnevafrozen
That does not look like an old or sick bear. I absolutely despise people who kill predator animals for fun. Especially with a rifle from 100 yards away.

You could argue bow hunting is high test but if you're sitting here telling me that shooting a majestic and healthy bear with a rifle makes you alpha then you're an insecure *******. Eating meat does not disqualify you from judging these hunters for partaking in this. RIP bear
why is killing a predator different than non-predators?
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Took a lot of hits and a long time to kill the bear. Didn't like that. But I've seen bears kill other animals, at leas online so not too sympathetic. Kill or be killed I guess. People hate hunting but eat meat.
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress
Wonder if he's gonna get it stuffed. Imagine having a grizlzy in your living room fuark!
Would go rug for sure. Your house would have to be massive to accommodate a full body mount.

I get the hate for hunters, by some of you. There are a lot of hunters I don't like and wouldn't care to be around. But, overall, hunting actually has a really positive impact on animal populations. Hunters are about the only group that are will to put their money where the mouth is in terms of conservation and habitat preservation. Hunting isn't a threat to big game populations, the big issue is habitat loss - at least in the US.
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Originally Posted By bfdehewdbyywhn
bears will go extinct within 100 years. u mad?

they will be like the wolves and mountain lions in the US
Well you know ****ing nothing. Bear populations are very high right now. Too many male bears cause the young population to stagnate because they kill cubs.
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post 1650619483 11-11-2021, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted By freshnevafrozen
That does not look like an old or sick bear. I absolutely despise people who kill predator animals for fun. Especially with a rifle from 100 yards away.

You could argue bow hunting is high test but if you're sitting here telling me that shooting a majestic and healthy bear with a rifle makes you alpha then you're an insecure *******. Eating meat does not disqualify you from judging these hunters for partaking in this. RIP bear
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Its a waste of effort, but I have a few minutes of free time so I'll give it a go.

Trophy hunting and sport hunting are poor terms that mean nothing. If i shoot a white tailed deer for the meat and honor and remember the animal by mounting its head on my wall, is it a trophy? Yes, that's my trophy from the hunt, but no one calls white tail deer hunting trophy hunting.They want trophy hunting to be about rare exotic species. They mean the living animal is the trophy. But where do you draw the line, is a 200 inch whitetail a trophy, but a 180 isnt? What about a 12 years olds first 1 and 1/2 year old buck? Who's standards are we playing by? Virtually all western society hunting is sport hunting in the sense that its a recreational activity and your life does not depend on that animal coming home with you. Virtually every single hunter in the USA can miss his shot then afford lunch later that day. So all hunting is sport hunting, but not all hunting is "bad", see the problem with both these terms?

How did he kill that bear?
He applied for a tag that most likely took upwards of a decade to get pulled (donating money every year he applied). Then he paid the state for a license. The state requires a professional guide for that hunt, so he employed a guide service. All of his equipment (tent, ammo, gun, hat, boots) were taxed and had a portion of that tax go specifically to wildlife conservation (pitman roberts). So before he even saw that bear he paid thousands and thousands of dollars to the Alaska state gov, a local employer and national wildlife conservation funds. All of these organizations then take that money and use it for state biologist, habitat improvement, legal fees to stop land grabs and purchasing of new land to be conserved into habitat. So again, before he shot ONE bear, he has contributed to the greater good of ALL bears and maintained employment for the dozens of people that ensure that bear existed.

Please remove knee jerk emotion and consider the nuance of complex systems. Just google what is required to hunt deer in your state. You'll be pleasantly surprised to see pages and pages of restrictions of dates, size, sex, weapon usage, caliber bullet, harvest size, butchering practices, ect, ect.
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post 1650619853 11-11-2021, 09:15 AM
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Makes me feel sad af. I can understand hunting for food but stuff like this just seems like tiny dink syndrome.
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Originally Posted By kingmanaverage
Makes me feel sad af. I can understand hunting for food but stuff like this just seems like tiny dink syndrome.
you know people eat bear meat, right?

And all the "trophy hunting" in Africa - the locals get the meat and you are not allowed to bring it back home to the States
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Originally Posted By H00J
How old do bears live?

The one in vid was over 20
Originally Posted By Cleveland33
you know people eat bear meat, right?
I was unaware, I thought people just hunted them for the skins. If they used the whole animal carcass then it definitely changes my opinion on the matter.
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Originally Posted By angeeezy
retarded post of the year nominee.

The reason the bear would tear up a human is either it is feeling threatened, territorial, or its bulking season. That doesn't equate to killing wild animals for "sport" lmao.
Cry harder, ****git. You know how many animals cannibalize their own young? Animals are ruthless, savage beasts with no morality at all.
LOL at acting like viscous animals are just chill, lumbering gentle giants. They'll defend their cubs from people who unluckily ran into them, even though they weren't attacking them.
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i'm a big advocate of conservation and hunting but i'd never kill an animal i wasnt going to use in its entirety


sad tbh - what a majestic apex predator
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post 1650634463 11-11-2021, 01:10 PM
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Trophy hunting is small dick behavior. Hunting is alpha male but killing for sport is weak.
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A couple points:

1. Strict trophy hunting doesn't really exist anymore.

I am unaware of anywhere it is legal to kill something and allow the meat to spoil.

Doing so is called poaching and is never ok.


2. The biggest killer of bear cubs is other male bears. If the cubs are killed the female can be mated with again, and large boars actively hunt cubs. Control of the biggest and most dominant bears (trophy?) Is encouraged with most wildlife management models, because one male will impregnate many females. You will have more bears if you kill some dominant adult males.

3. Nothing dies peacefully of old age in the wild. Death in its many forms is generally a long drawn out, painful procedure. A bullet or arrow is a pretty humane way of harvesting an animal, given its ultimate method of death in the wild.

4. The guy likely paid a pretty penny for that hunt. Money that went to conservation and habitat preservation. Hunters are the number 1 contributors to wildlife conservation in North America.

5. Eating thenmeat aside, are you a "trophy" hunter if you decide to shoot a deer with the biggest antlers, or the biggest bear? Most hunters who target trophy animals (and still eat the meat), do so because they are skilled hunters. Luck plays a big part, but far be it from a dick measuring contest, it's often a personal challenge, and a good way to challenge yourself when you are really good at something. I don't think it is a crime to try and excel at it, given you will eat the meat anyway.

6. It has been said that trophy hunting saved wild game in north America. Valuing an animal for more than its meat placed a higher value on that animal that just its meat. Value means management and preservation. The Boone and crocket club was created for this reason. If everyone is hunting the big animals because it has a bigger rack, fewer people are killing the females, and the population increases. With whitetail there are more in north America than has ever been in history. So far, passing on the small bucks and does is working to increase herd numbers.


I butcher everything I kill myself, and did shot and processed a black bear about a month ago. Have a deer hanging right now from two nights ago. I am primarily a meat hunter.

Hunt your own hunt. I will never degrade another hunter for a decision he makes or an animal he takes if it is legal.

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Originally Posted By PepperedAngus
Trophy hunting is small dick behavior. Hunting is alpha male but killing for sport is weak.
In one sentence you say hunting is small dick and the next you say it’s alpha. You just don’t have the slightest clue what you’re talking about, it’s kinda funny. It’s like reading a wincel comment
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Originally Posted By SuperHercules
Whoever told you that is a retard. It's well known as being pretty horrible



Good vid though OP, fuk bears
Black bear is delicious.

Butchered one a month or so ago. Never tried grizz
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Nothing wrong with hunting but I phuking hate ***gots that pose for a pic with a dead animal after shooting it
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Originally Posted By bfdehewdbyywhn
heard bear meat tastes good
Some of it does!
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Originally Posted By PectoralBrah
pretty fukking alpha srs. Mirin' the bloodthirst and barbarism that is instinctual to every real testosterone infused man.
That would be case if those balding ***gits killed bear in fair fight, not shooting from lake away lmao these same ***gitss that cry assault after getting beat to pulp in fights they start
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Originally Posted By SuperHercules
Whoever told you that is a retard. It's well known as being pretty horrible



Good vid though OP, fuk bears
There is a lot more variation in the taste of wild game versus domesticated animals. A few reasons:

-wild game has a much larger variety of food sources. don't expect a salmon fed bear to taste like a bear that got fat on blueberries
-meat care really makes a difference, how quick you got the meat cooled, whether you were able to age it, etc.
-animal age
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killing off a big old male bear is actually good for the population
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Originally Posted By batmanman
Nobody here minds hunting, go shoot a million deer, fukk those giant rats

But bears are low in numbers, this guy is just like the morons in africa hunting rhinos until they're gone
So low that even Missouri now has a bear season.
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Originally Posted By Saiyanbrahh
That would be case if those balding ***gits killed bear in fair fight, not shooting from lake away lmao these same ***gitss that cry assault after getting beat to pulp in fights they start
How exactly does a squishy human fight a bear fair? Hand to hand mortal combat?
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress
How exactly does a squishy human fight a bear fair? Hand to hand mortal combat?
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Originally Posted By Hutrapper
haha. I expected this one:

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Originally Posted By FarmersSon
haha. I expected this one:

Just so many ways to fight a bear.

None that work, sadly...lol
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While I see the appeal to shoot a bear its just not for me. I hunt big game for meat first and horns second. While I would love a bear rug, I'm too cheap to get it tanned. I'm not eating bear meat either with trichinosis. Its not worth the risk. There is a reason in Idaho you can leave the meat to rot. You have to take the skull and hide though. Just seems like a waste for me personally. Some day I would like to shoot one though. And a mtn lion. And as many wolves as I can. The wolves can rot.
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Terrible shot. How hard is it to lungshot something that big and moving that slow.
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Originally Posted By Berts
While I see the appeal to shoot a bear its just not for me. I hunt big game for meat first and horns second. While I would love a bear rug, I'm too cheap to get it tanned. I'm not eating bear meat either with trichinosis. Its not worth the risk. There is a reason in Idaho you can leave the meat to rot. You have to take the skull and hide though. Just seems like a waste for me personally. Some day I would like to shoot one though. And a mtn lion. And as many wolves as I can. The wolves can rot.
Was unaware you could leave meat to rot there.

Trichnosis is also found in black bear meat, and it is a staple for lots of people here. All meat is cooked well done as a precaution. Freezing actually kills it pretty well too.
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Originally Posted By EagleOfWar
All those could be the case or the fact that it’s a bear and they are just ruthless. Hell there was a video a year or so here of one eating someone’s kayak. The kayak threatening or even edible but bears are ruthless.
The amount of times I've seen examples of coyotes, bobcats, mtn lions "spree killing" livestock suggests the same for all predators
Originally Posted By freshnevafrozen
That does not look like an old or sick bear. I absolutely despise people who kill predator animals for fun. Especially with a rifle from 100 yards away.

You could argue bow hunting is high test but if you're sitting here telling me that shooting a majestic and healthy bear with a rifle makes you alpha then you're an insecure *******. Eating meat does not disqualify you from judging these hunters for partaking in this. RIP bear
Care to take a guess how many grizzly cubs, caribou, elk, deer, sheep were potentially saved by the taking of one single adult male grizz?
Originally Posted By SuperHercules
Whoever told you that is a retard. It's well known as being pretty horrible
Lol this is abjectly false
Originally Posted By Hutrapper
Trichnosis is also found in black bear meat, and it is a staple for lots of people here. All meat is cooked well done as a precaution. Freezing actually kills it pretty well too.
This is why I think bear gets a bad rap, you cant just have a nice rare bear steak, so inevitably someone grills a chunk of bear over direct heat to well done and declares it bad. Well no chit
Follow any recipe that lends itself to long cooking time like smoking, sous vide, basting, sausage etc and bear is absolutely the tits

With exception of grizz feasting on a rotting whale or salmon run, but just guessing....
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