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11-12-2021, 03:11 PM
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11-12-2021, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Here's one:By sharing, do you mean the standard definition, or the one that fits the current narrative?

"Having a weakened immune system. People who are immunocompromised have a reduced ability to fight infections and other diseases. This may be caused by certain diseases or conditions, such as AIDS, cancer, diabetes, malnutrition, and certain genetic disorders. It may also be caused by certain medicines or treatments, such as anticancer drugs, radiation therapy, and stem cell or organ transplant. Also called immunosuppressed."
https://www.cancer.gov/publications/...unocompromised
Is this standard or revised?
11-12-2021, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted By Weezy32⏩
Whats even crazy is how come the democratic voters dont question that, they dont een bother asking themselves hey if this vaccine works why is the rate so high here? instead they go with the same bs that the vaccine lessesn severetyExcuses excuses excuses got to love the liberal media. I am surprised they didnt follow the headline with "and why that is a good thing"
https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-covid...204548703.html
https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-covid...204548703.html
uh before the vaccine the majority of people who had covid were asymptomatic or mild symptoms these people catching covid now have SYMPTOMS and they are all vaccinated and the msm doesnt report it before in 2009 the media would report stories about the vaccine they were not bought and paid for or swayed now they are, before in 2009 ABC, NBC, MSN all had stories and news segments questioning the Swine Flu vaccine.
now if you question the mRna new style vaccine you are pushing misinformation, anti science and dangerous for even asking questions.
11-12-2021, 03:28 PM
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11-12-2021, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted By ChaliHo⏩
Which data suggest that only vaccinated people are symptomatic? Or that the number of symptomatic cases in vaccinated people are higher than in all people before vaccines were available?Whats even crazy is how come the democratic voters dont question that, they dont een bother asking themselves hey if this vaccine works why is the rate so high here? instead they go with the same bs that the vaccine lessesn severety
uh before the vaccine the majority of people who had covid were asymptomatic or mild symptoms these people catching covid now have SYMPTOMS and they are all vaccinated and the msm doesnt report it before in 2009 the media would report stories about the vaccine they were not bought and paid for or swayed now they are, before in 2009 ABC, NBC, MSN all had stories and news segments questioning the Swine Flu vaccine.
now if you question the mRna new style vaccine you are pushing misinformation, anti science and dangerous for even asking questions.
uh before the vaccine the majority of people who had covid were asymptomatic or mild symptoms these people catching covid now have SYMPTOMS and they are all vaccinated and the msm doesnt report it before in 2009 the media would report stories about the vaccine they were not bought and paid for or swayed now they are, before in 2009 ABC, NBC, MSN all had stories and news segments questioning the Swine Flu vaccine.
now if you question the mRna new style vaccine you are pushing misinformation, anti science and dangerous for even asking questions.
The posted article also says this:
"(Even so-called natural immunity doesn’t guarantee protection. According to a new study,unvaccinated people who had a recent infection were five times more likely to be reinfected than those who were fully vaccinated and didn’t have a prior infection.)
So far, new daily hospitalization numbers across the affected states have not shot up as rapidly as new daily case numbers, rising anywhere from 4 percent in New Hampshire to 20 percent in New Mexico during the past two weeks. (In New York and Massachusetts, hospitalizations continue to fall after summer Delta bumps.)
If this pattern persists, it will be welcome news — a sign that substantial vaccine coverage (along with new therapeutics and safety measures such as public indoor mask rules) is helping to prevent severe outcomes, and that the virus is becoming the kind of threat that Americans can live with in the long term."
11-12-2021, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
It's from the article in the OP.Imagine being this dumb.

Originally Posted By Weezy32⏩
Now you're insulting him, too?Excuses excuses excuses got to love the liberal media. I am surprised they didnt follow the headline with "and why that is a good thing"
https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-covid...204548703.html
https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-covid...204548703.html
11-12-2021, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
Then why blame the spread on the unvaccinated? Why vaccine mandates and passports if being vaccinated DOESN'T make you less of a threat to others? Talk about binary, lol.This is thinking in binary. Vaccines are not meant to completely eliminate Covid, but they do reduce symptomatic and severe infections significantly. So a load of asymptomatic infections is a far more desirable outcome than severe and symptomatic infections.
11-12-2021, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
That sounds like a swayed article no **** people will get reinfected people get infected by colds and flus all the time, before the Vaccine in the early stages of Covid they spoke of Memory T and B cells not antibodies that the reason so many people were asymptomatic is because their body came across a common cold coronavirus and recognized similarity and fought it. dont you remember that? also why do you like the vaccine so much? and not natural immunityWhich data suggest that only vaccinated people are symptomatic? Or that the number of symptomatic cases in vaccinated people are higher than in all people before vaccines were available?
The posted article also says this:
"(Even so-called natural immunity doesn’t guarantee protection. According to a new study,unvaccinated people who had a recent infection were five times more likely to be reinfected than those who were fully vaccinated and didn’t have a prior infection.)
So far, new daily hospitalization numbers across the affected states have not shot up as rapidly as new daily case numbers, rising anywhere from 4 percent in New Hampshire to 20 percent in New Mexico during the past two weeks. (In New York and Massachusetts, hospitalizations continue to fall after summer Delta bumps.)
If this pattern persists, it will be welcome news — a sign that substantial vaccine coverage (along with new therapeutics and safety measures such as public indoor mask rules) is helping to prevent severe outcomes, and that the virus is becoming the kind of threat that Americans can live with in the long term."
The posted article also says this:
"(Even so-called natural immunity doesn’t guarantee protection. According to a new study,unvaccinated people who had a recent infection were five times more likely to be reinfected than those who were fully vaccinated and didn’t have a prior infection.)
So far, new daily hospitalization numbers across the affected states have not shot up as rapidly as new daily case numbers, rising anywhere from 4 percent in New Hampshire to 20 percent in New Mexico during the past two weeks. (In New York and Massachusetts, hospitalizations continue to fall after summer Delta bumps.)
If this pattern persists, it will be welcome news — a sign that substantial vaccine coverage (along with new therapeutics and safety measures such as public indoor mask rules) is helping to prevent severe outcomes, and that the virus is becoming the kind of threat that Americans can live with in the long term."
I have my polio vaccine, measles, etc im not an antivaxxer
11-12-2021, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted By gymratbruh⏩
The vaccine does not prevent you from:Just throwing this out there but the vaccine doesn't prevent you from catching rona. Same way the flu vaccine doesn't prevent you from catching the flu. It is supposed to dampen the symptoms and potential lethality. Not sure if I answered your post OP.
Then again I'm just a miscer on misc so what do I know? Lol
Then again I'm just a miscer on misc so what do I know? Lol
-Getting Covid.
-Spreading Covid.
-Being hospitalized from Covid.
-Dying from Covid.
We've seen plenty of news of fully vaxed people (with their boosters too) experiencing all of those. Furthermore. Big pharma, big tech, lots of government officials, celebrities, and even OSHA are trying to censor negative news around side effects of the vaccine.
We are seeing a massive spike in Myocarditis, soccer players & other athletes having sudden heart issues, and 'vaccinated' individuals dying 'mysteriously', etc. A lot of these die-hard vax people that have made tons of social media posts hating on unvaccinated people have somehow died in their sleep or from other 'complications' (essentially becoming a meme through their death). And we still have people thinking the vaccine is safe and was created to protect them from Covid (lol).
I don't buy a conspiracy for microchips, population control, etc. But I do buy a conspiracy around billions of dollars. Anytime there is a tragedy involving lots of deaths and media coverage there is going to be a massive opportunity to make money. A massive power & wealth transfer from the poor & middle class to the wealthy/powerful just occurred.
Along with quite a few opportunities for middle class brahs to join the millionaire class.
Covid 19 was the biggest wealth building opportunity of our life-time. I've more then quadrupled my net worth in the last two years.Pureblood crew checking in.
11-12-2021, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted By ChaliHo⏩
The article is in the OP, it's not from me.That sounds like a swayed article no **** people will get reinfected people get infected by colds and flus all the time, before the Vaccine in the early stages of Covid they spoke of Memory T and B cells not antibodies that the reason so many people were asymptomatic is because their body came across a common cold coronavirus and recognized similarity and fought it. dont you remember that? also why do you like the vaccine so much? and not natural immunity
I have my polio vaccine, measles, etc im not an antivaxxer
I have my polio vaccine, measles, etc im not an antivaxxer
I'm not "pro vaccine" or "anti "natural" immunity".
It comes down to individual weighing of health risks from infection against the health risks from vaccination.
Both "natural" immunity and vaccination will lead to cell-mediated (also called T-cell) immunity and humoral (also called B-cell) immunity, which refers to development of antibodies.
11-12-2021, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted By guest89⏩
Dude, the vaccines literally prevent all of those things, just not perfectly. They're especially good (like 90% effective even after six months) at preventing hospitalization and death. Thank God the world isn't run by ignorant miscers.The vaccine does not prevent you from:
-Getting Covid.
-Spreading Covid.
-Being hospitalized from Covid.
-Dying from Covid.
-Getting Covid.
-Spreading Covid.
-Being hospitalized from Covid.
-Dying from Covid.
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Originally Posted By StoliFun⏩
Funny thing is, we are seeing places run by 'miscers' flourishing while super locked down/vaccinated places are floundering.Dude, the vaccines literally prevent all of those things, just not perfectly. They're especially good (like 90% effective even after six months) at preventing hospitalization and death. Thank God the world isn't run by ignorant miscers.
By all means get vaccinated if it makes you feel safe. Get your booster shot 2x per year for the rest of your life as well if that also makes you feel safe. Hell, well your little mask around for the rest of your life also. Just know there are literally millions of unvaccinated, unmasked individuals living their life like normal.
I've been in the gym, bars and restaurants 4-5x per week since Covid started. My gym only took a 5 day shut down for some cleaning/remodels then fully reopened. No masks required. Been to quite a few Republican ran cities where there were no shutdowns, mask mandates or social distancing required. Hospitals functioned like normal. Death rates there weren't any different then any other year.
Pretty lulzy to see the super locked down cities VS the open cities tbh.
11-12-2021, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted By StoliFun⏩
Bruh plsDude, the vaccines literally prevent all of those things, just not perfectly. They're especially good (like 90% effective even after six months) at preventing hospitalization and death. Thank God the world isn't run by ignorant miscers.
Effectiveness is through the floor at 6 months
https://www.latimes.com/science/stor...id-19-vaccines
And the vaccinated have a higher rate of hospitalization (80% population vacced, 87% hospitalizations)
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-58680204
No reduction in spread
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8481107/
11-12-2021, 05:58 PM
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Daily reminder that COVID is the flu.
And by is the flu I mean the illnesses people are reporting literally is Influenza.
All they did was stop testing for Influenza and referring to flu-like symptoms as the flu, instead now call it COVID and only test for COVID. So influenza infects you but it's reported as COVID, not Influenza.
Nothing actually changed in terms of respiratory illness infection and death rates in 2020, except now more people are getting sick because God knows what the fuk those vaccines do.
Lmao it was that easy to scam the entire world to invent an immensely profitable marketing brand in 'COVID'.
People are so fukin stupid and gullible it's painful to see
And by is the flu I mean the illnesses people are reporting literally is Influenza.
All they did was stop testing for Influenza and referring to flu-like symptoms as the flu, instead now call it COVID and only test for COVID. So influenza infects you but it's reported as COVID, not Influenza.
Nothing actually changed in terms of respiratory illness infection and death rates in 2020, except now more people are getting sick because God knows what the fuk those vaccines do.
Lmao it was that easy to scam the entire world to invent an immensely profitable marketing brand in 'COVID'.
People are so fukin stupid and gullible it's painful to see
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Originally Posted By guest89⏩
None of that contradicts what I said about vaccines being effective but not perfect at preventing each of your four bullet points: infection, transmission, hospitalization, and death. It's just you bragging that you've been lucky enough to be spared COVID related tragedy.Funny thing is, we are seeing places run by 'miscers' flourishing while super locked down/vaccinated places are floundering.
By all means get vaccinated if it makes you feel safe. Get your booster shot 2x per year for the rest of your life as well if that also makes you feel safe. Hell, well your little mask around for the rest of your life also. Just know there are literally millions of unvaccinated, unmasked individuals living their life like normal.
I've been in the gym, bars and restaurants 4-5x per week since Covid started. My gym only took a 5 day shut down for some cleaning/remodels then fully reopened. No masks required. Been to quite a few Republican ran cities where there were no shutdowns, mask mandates or social distancing required. Hospitals functioned like normal. Death rates there weren't any different then any other year.
Pretty lulzy to see the super locked down cities VS the open cities tbh.
By all means get vaccinated if it makes you feel safe. Get your booster shot 2x per year for the rest of your life as well if that also makes you feel safe. Hell, well your little mask around for the rest of your life also. Just know there are literally millions of unvaccinated, unmasked individuals living their life like normal.
I've been in the gym, bars and restaurants 4-5x per week since Covid started. My gym only took a 5 day shut down for some cleaning/remodels then fully reopened. No masks required. Been to quite a few Republican ran cities where there were no shutdowns, mask mandates or social distancing required. Hospitals functioned like normal. Death rates there weren't any different then any other year.
Pretty lulzy to see the super locked down cities VS the open cities tbh.
Whoopdidoo, kid.

Originally Posted By Jessejame5⏩
1) The covid vaccines' efficacy at preventing symptomatic disease drops over time but doesn't disappear, apart from the J&J dropping off a cliff after six months. In the same time frame Moderna drops to something like 58 or 59 % and Pfizer drops to something like 45%. None of that is "through the floor." The J&J nears the floor, but most immunologists think it should have been a two-shot regimen anyway.Bruh pls
Effectiveness is through the floor at 6 months
https://www.latimes.com/science/stor...id-19-vaccines
And the vaccinated have a higher rate of hospitalization (80% population vacced, 87% hospitalizations)
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-58680204
No reduction in spread
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8481107/
Effectiveness is through the floor at 6 months
https://www.latimes.com/science/stor...id-19-vaccines
And the vaccinated have a higher rate of hospitalization (80% population vacced, 87% hospitalizations)
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-58680204
No reduction in spread
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8481107/
2) Here is a more recent article from the same source that does a better job explaining away your assertion that the jab increases your likelihood of hospitalization:https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-52380643
Hospital admissions rate higher for unvaccinated
The hospital admission rate for younger, unvaccinated people with Covid in Wales is more than four times higher than for those who have been fully vaccinated, latest Public Health Wales analysis shows.
More than 1,120 admissions over the month to 10 October were looked at. It found that the hospital admission rate for those aged between the aged of 18 tor 60 was 16 admissions per 100,000 people for those fully vaccinated - but it rises to 68 per 100,000 for those unvaccinated.
The analysis also reported 44 unvaccinated children were admitted to hospital in the past month.
Looking at admissions for all ages, the admissions rate was more than 58% higher for those unvaccinated.
So why are so many vaccinated people still in hospital?
Unvaccinated patients make up just over 28% of all Covid patients, while 52% have had both doses. But given that more than 78% of those aged 18 to 60 have been fully vaccinated, it means statistically they will still appear prominently in hospital figures.
The sheer numbers of people vaccinated - nearly 95% of those over 60 and 84% of those under 60 - mean that statistically, double-vaccinated people will still be a significant proportion of hospital patients.
When 95% of adults over 60 are fully vaccinated and 84% of adults under 60 are fully vaccinated and - in general - people with significant comorbidities tend to get vaccinated more than others in their age-specific demographic, it is actually not surprising that a majority of the hospitalized are fully vaccinated. That is to say - when the vast majority of the adults are vaccinated, and especially almost all of the most vulnerable (old-cels and comorbidity-cels), the double-jabbed will show up prominently in hospitalizations. Epidemiological studies still show the vaccines provide strong protection against severe disease, hospitalization, and death.The hospital admission rate for younger, unvaccinated people with Covid in Wales is more than four times higher than for those who have been fully vaccinated, latest Public Health Wales analysis shows.
More than 1,120 admissions over the month to 10 October were looked at. It found that the hospital admission rate for those aged between the aged of 18 tor 60 was 16 admissions per 100,000 people for those fully vaccinated - but it rises to 68 per 100,000 for those unvaccinated.
The analysis also reported 44 unvaccinated children were admitted to hospital in the past month.
Looking at admissions for all ages, the admissions rate was more than 58% higher for those unvaccinated.
So why are so many vaccinated people still in hospital?
Unvaccinated patients make up just over 28% of all Covid patients, while 52% have had both doses. But given that more than 78% of those aged 18 to 60 have been fully vaccinated, it means statistically they will still appear prominently in hospital figures.
The sheer numbers of people vaccinated - nearly 95% of those over 60 and 84% of those under 60 - mean that statistically, double-vaccinated people will still be a significant proportion of hospital patients.
3) Politifact asked the author of that study about people like you who claim his study shows vaccination is useless:https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...e-arent-enoug/
Subramanian told Politico: "Concluding from this analysis that vaccines are useless is misleading and inaccurate. Rather, the analysis supports vaccination as an important strategy for reducing infection and transmission, along with handwashing, mask-wearing, proper ventilation and physical distancing."
Originally Posted By FilsGoodMan⏩
This is rank bull****. Talk to any Urgent Care or ER doc and they'll tell you that they tested respiratory patients for covid and influenza, as well as various other respiratory diseases, all the damn time. And sometimes they would pop for flu or RSV, but most of the time it was for covid. Talk to the techs who actually run the tests on the samples and they'll tell you the same ****. COVID is real. It isn't the ****ing flu.Daily reminder that COVID is the flu.
And by is the flu I mean the illnesses people are reporting literally is Influenza.
All they did was stop testing for Influenza and referring to flu-like symptoms as the flu, instead now call it COVID and only test for COVID. So influenza infects you but it's reported as COVID, not Influenza.
Nothing actually changed in terms of respiratory illness infection and death rates in 2020, except now more people are getting sick because God knows what the fuk those vaccines do.
Lmao it was that easy to scam the entire world to invent an immensely profitable marketing brand in 'COVID'.
People are so fukin stupid and gullible it's painful to see
And by is the flu I mean the illnesses people are reporting literally is Influenza.
All they did was stop testing for Influenza and referring to flu-like symptoms as the flu, instead now call it COVID and only test for COVID. So influenza infects you but it's reported as COVID, not Influenza.
Nothing actually changed in terms of respiratory illness infection and death rates in 2020, except now more people are getting sick because God knows what the fuk those vaccines do.
Lmao it was that easy to scam the entire world to invent an immensely profitable marketing brand in 'COVID'.
People are so fukin stupid and gullible it's painful to see
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11-13-2021, 04:13 AM
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This **** is simple man
I could understand if the Covid death rate was 30% and Vaccine was rolled out and death rate became 10% percent then you would obviously be like ok the vaccine is working doing something.
Covid death rate was literally less than 1% before vaccines so should not have even been a big deal in the first place and now after all these vaccines and mandates and bull**** the death rate is same and in some cases actually growing. Normal rational logical human brain would tell you the vaccine is snake oil but no not for the liberal idiots who eat up everything the mainstream media tells them.
Bro my brother in law parents both got delta covid both unvaccinated and over 80 years old. Both of them huge health problems. His father had been taken to hospital 2 times in an ambulance due to high diabetes few months prior to getting covid. He literally passed out in his car because his diabetes was so high. He survived covid.
His mom cant barely walk , kidneys failing , taking like 10+ different pills daily got covid unvaccinated and she survived.
My friends grandma ...in nursing home survived 2 different cancers over 90 years old 2 set of chemo treatments weak immune system got covid and survived.
This **** is not worth closing down the country or any of these stupid vaccine mandates yes some people WILL die from covid but the amount is not nearly enough to justify all this nonesense that has been going on. NOT EVEN CLOSE.
I could understand if the Covid death rate was 30% and Vaccine was rolled out and death rate became 10% percent then you would obviously be like ok the vaccine is working doing something.
Covid death rate was literally less than 1% before vaccines so should not have even been a big deal in the first place and now after all these vaccines and mandates and bull**** the death rate is same and in some cases actually growing. Normal rational logical human brain would tell you the vaccine is snake oil but no not for the liberal idiots who eat up everything the mainstream media tells them.
Originally Posted By gymratbruh⏩
Are you serious things have to open up and go back to normal. Human society cannot function being locked up and social distancing forever over a virus that kills 1% of people it infects. The economy cannot be sustained this way period you wont have food and basic neceseties if you just keep social distancing forever. Do you even realize how many people rely on tourism concerts sporting events to put food on table for their loved ones ?From what I've seen is people got overzealous/too carefree after getting the vaccine. Some don't even go back for the second booster LOL federal and local governments can scream prevent the spread all they want, but their actions contradict that so much.
The amount of events and venues opening up isn't helping prevent the spread. It's honestly just one hot mess since people can be infected and not show any symptoms which is what makes this virus pretty interesting in terms of behavior. I am only talking in laments terms and my knowledge on microbiology is elementary. My wife works in healthcare and she says it's cause society got way too excited after the release of the vaccine and people got lazy/carefree.
I added that people can only be so scared for so long too. We're social creatures by nature and the need for social interaction by any means, especially social gatherings was bound to take over our best judgment. CDC statistical data has always been flawed and meant as a general educated guess too, so who knows what the real numbers are.
I think it's best to just make sure you, or us as individuals that haven't caught rona keep doing what we been doing and stay safe. Lethality varies from person to person. Prior to rona, there were always cases of people getting hospitalized or passing from the season's stronger flu strain.
My common sense has always said to steer clear from sick people LOL Rona can go undetected so I assume everyone around or even myself could be infected so just best to try and keep yourself and everyone else safe. I'm starting to ramble, but yeah.
I don't care what the local government or federal say. I won't go around maskless until I notice local hospitals aren't having as many hospitalized cases again. WHICH, did happen for a good minute, but as I said. Venues and festivities started happening so :/
Who knows what's up though? Maybe they're tryna intermingle the unvaxxed and the vaxxed so herd immunity kicks in? Fuk, I don't even know if I contributed to this post anymore LOLOL
The amount of events and venues opening up isn't helping prevent the spread. It's honestly just one hot mess since people can be infected and not show any symptoms which is what makes this virus pretty interesting in terms of behavior. I am only talking in laments terms and my knowledge on microbiology is elementary. My wife works in healthcare and she says it's cause society got way too excited after the release of the vaccine and people got lazy/carefree.
I added that people can only be so scared for so long too. We're social creatures by nature and the need for social interaction by any means, especially social gatherings was bound to take over our best judgment. CDC statistical data has always been flawed and meant as a general educated guess too, so who knows what the real numbers are.
I think it's best to just make sure you, or us as individuals that haven't caught rona keep doing what we been doing and stay safe. Lethality varies from person to person. Prior to rona, there were always cases of people getting hospitalized or passing from the season's stronger flu strain.
My common sense has always said to steer clear from sick people LOL Rona can go undetected so I assume everyone around or even myself could be infected so just best to try and keep yourself and everyone else safe. I'm starting to ramble, but yeah.
I don't care what the local government or federal say. I won't go around maskless until I notice local hospitals aren't having as many hospitalized cases again. WHICH, did happen for a good minute, but as I said. Venues and festivities started happening so :/
Who knows what's up though? Maybe they're tryna intermingle the unvaxxed and the vaxxed so herd immunity kicks in? Fuk, I don't even know if I contributed to this post anymore LOLOL
Bro my brother in law parents both got delta covid both unvaccinated and over 80 years old. Both of them huge health problems. His father had been taken to hospital 2 times in an ambulance due to high diabetes few months prior to getting covid. He literally passed out in his car because his diabetes was so high. He survived covid.
His mom cant barely walk , kidneys failing , taking like 10+ different pills daily got covid unvaccinated and she survived.
My friends grandma ...in nursing home survived 2 different cancers over 90 years old 2 set of chemo treatments weak immune system got covid and survived.
This **** is not worth closing down the country or any of these stupid vaccine mandates yes some people WILL die from covid but the amount is not nearly enough to justify all this nonesense that has been going on. NOT EVEN CLOSE.
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Originally Posted By StoliFun⏩
The world is run by greedy ****s and complete morons. Global economy and inflation is completely ****ed over a virus that killed less than 1% of those infects and thats with all their BULL**** way of counting deaths. All these so called scientists count it as covid death if you get run over by a semi truck and die while at same time having covid death. NO mother ****er that makes no sens cause of death is getting crushed by a fukkin truck but no we must increase those covid death numbers and make the virus look scary enough so corporations can make billions.Dude, the vaccines literally prevent all of those things, just not perfectly. They're especially good (like 90% effective even after six months) at preventing hospitalization and death. Thank God the world isn't run by ignorant miscers.
Even with the ****ty way of counting deaths the death numbers still dont justify any of this bs that is going on. If it did we should have been in lockdown social distancing living in a bubble way way WAYYY before Covid because heart disease , flu, driving accidents, alcohol, etc kills just as many people every year if not more than covid does.
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11-13-2021, 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted By StoliFun⏩
Say breakthrough infection one more goddamn timeRising covid infections isn't necessarily of much concern so long as covid hospitalizations and deaths stay down. Breakthrough infections amongst the vaxxed aren't even that big a deal so long as they don't develop severe disease or require hospitalization.
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11-13-2021, 05:08 AM
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All summer long in the south (because it gets hot and people go inside) ....OMG look at cases going up, OMG unvaccinated!!!
Now it gets seasonally cold up north (and people stay inside).....no need to worry, cases don't matter.
Now it gets seasonally cold up north (and people stay inside).....no need to worry, cases don't matter.
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11-13-2021, 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted By steeler505⏩
I breakthrough on your mother's chest on the reg and she pays me for it.Say breakthrough infection one more goddamn time
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11-13-2021, 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted By StoliFun⏩
Lol cute. Sorry bro I've been to more ERs and had more false negative tests in my life for another (actually real and proven) infection so their word means absolute fukall to me lmao. Have seen countless people have the same experience. Most of you will never experience how truly corrupt the medical system is until it happens firsthand srs.This is rank bull****. Talk to any Urgent Care or ER doc and they'll tell you that they tested respiratory patients for covid and influenza, as well as various other respiratory diseases, all the damn time. And sometimes they would pop for flu or RSV, but most of the time it was for covid. Talk to the techs who actually run the tests on the samples and they'll tell you the same ****. COVID is real. It isn't the ****ing flu.
Here's a little chart I made up, see for yourself. Pay special attention to what happens to Influenza, which has been around for decades, when the new marketing brand shows up in March 2020:


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11-13-2021, 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted By TomWanks⏩
They will never. They get way too many kickbacks at this point. Plus they could be in danger if they ever admit they were wrong.We're so close to them admitting it was just the flu bro.
11-13-2021, 08:26 AM
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just how many more weeks to flatten the curve.?
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