2 people I know died of covid, had 1st shot. Argument debunked.

Don't know a single person in my actual real life that has had COVID OR vaccine complications. 2 people had a bad case flu-like symptoms for 2 weeks and got tested and were negative for COVID. When I asked them wtf they had that was causing the symptoms (which were the same, coughing, breathing problems, fever, you know - the flu) they said 'doesn't matter, it's not COVID'.

People are going to die because healthcare is on a fraud level never seen before. If you test positive for COVID it literally doesn't matter what is actually killing you, COVID will be the diagnosis and treatment. Here's a perfect example I read just recently:

"A 15-year-old boy from Sydney has become Australia's youngest person to diewithCovid-19.

7NEWS reported Osama Suduh tested positive for the virus after being admitted to hospital withpneumococcal meningitis."

https://www.1news.co.nz/2021/08/15/b...with-covid-19/

Pneumonococcal meningitis has NO relation to COVID, it is a BACTERIAL infection. But they intentionally sensationalize the story to make it seem like he is the youngest person to "die with COVID" to imply that he died BECAUSE of COVID.

I predicted this in March 2020 and I was 100% right. Take it from someone who has been deathly ill from Clostridium Difficile for 3 years, do NOT blindly trust doctors and do NOT trust media. Of course there are fantastic doctors and fantastic journalists but they are RARE. Your health is all that matters and make sure you get the right fuking diagnosis and treatment, do not trust any ****g0t that tells you that COVID is the cause of your illness because it is HIGHLY unlikely that it is.

Pneumococcal pneumonia symptoms for example are IDENTICAL to the 'severe COVID complications' and would have in the past been treated by Azithromycin, not fukin ventilators and 'just rest at home you'll be fine'. If you get a bacterial infection like this and do not get the right treatment your chance of death goes up astronomically higher than any year before the COVID scam.

Main reason for the vaccine is to survive an exposure to the virus

[QUOTE=Sinan09400 post_id=1651663563]Lol once you took one, youre in for life.

Should have said no for the first time. I worked really hard to avoid the vaxx (forgery, frauding, laying low etc) and as a result still a pureblooded man.[/QUOTE]I had to.. my Job did play a little part in my decision but I'm getting surgery done on my knee and I wouldn't be allowed into hospitals once the restrictions come in mid December. .. unless it was life threatening or a family member was dying. I do wish I held on longer though.



[QUOTE=FilsGoodMan post_id=1651664203]
People are going to die because healthcare is on a fraud level never seen before. If you test positive for COVID it literally doesn't matter what is actually killing you, COVID will be the diagnosis and treatment. Here's a perfect example I read just recently:

"A 15-year-old boy from Sydney has become Australia's youngest person to die with[/i][/b] Covid-19.

7NEWS reported Osama Suduh tested positive for the virus after being admitted to hospital with[b]pneumococcal meningitis[/b]."

[URL=https://www.1news.co.nz/2021/08/15/boy-15-becomes-youngest-australian-to-die-with-covid-19/]https://www.1news.co.nz/2021/08/15/b...with-covid-19/[/URL]

.[/QUOTE]I also saw two stories recently.. one was a 10 year old that died But it wasn't actually from covid. But the news paper didn't change their headline "10 YEAR OLD DIES WITH COVID". And they put in the end of the story he died from something else. Lol.

And the other story was a man in NZ got shot by a gun and died from his wounds on the scene, but he had a covid infection so they added it to the covid deaths tally.

Ridiculous.

All I know is I am super afraid of Covid because MSNBC TV person and Twitter told me so. Tell me how many lockdowns and mail in voting elections I have to do before Covid goes away.

We're all in this together and if you think about it, it really is such a small price to pay to eradicate literally the worst virus ever. (Currently on my ninth jab, social isolation over a year, wear mask when I sleep)

you should have taken an antibody test fella, i felt rough last week of 2020 and first week of 2021...fatigue and moderate shortness of breath, totally recovered 3 weeks later

never got the jab ever and never will ....had an Antibody test in July 21 which was positive , natural immunity trumps all .............because in the end vaxxed or not everyone is gonna get it

Lmfao, the gun wasn't vaccinated.

My favorite was a woman on ******** said her dad developed sepsis after a tooth extraction (which is common when there is a gaping wound that pathogenic bacteria can enter the bloodstream through), and the doctor told them COVID caused the infection because he tested positive. She and her dad believed it, and the echo chamber of Karens on ******** were like OMG hope he's ok COVID is awful.

Seriously fukin blows my mind.

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Sinan09400 again."

Respect, fellow Pureblood

There are heaps of published statistics on this.

Heaps of vaccinated people are dying of covid, though definitely a smaller number than if it didn't work at all.

Can’t hop in a time machine. I don’t think we even knew that Covid hit the US in the first couple months of 2020. I went to see a comedian at a packed indoor venue Feb 15th of 2020 and definitely don’t remember anyone even thinking or talking about it. It wasn’t until around mid-March of 20-20 when people started panicking. Feels so long ago. It was referred to more as The Coronavirus and Corona beer suffered some financial hits, lmao. And then there was the quarantine Tiger King phase.

I got the 2 Moderna shots. Held out as long as I could. It is what it is. Guess it’s just the long term effects that I and everyone else who got the vax are gonna find out as test guinea pigs.

Doesn’t the military line you up before/during boot camp and inject the fuk out of your deltoids with shots/vaccines? I guess those were the more proven ones so that might be a moot point.

Fukin what... Lmao. People just look at the deaths. All they see is the big numbers Don't ask questions. Even when there's cases and stories like these. How many of these deaths are actually from covid? Clown world.

Recently, a Girl I've been seeing for over a year said she wouldn't talk to me anymore unless I got vaccinated. The amount of times I've nutted raw inside her. Lmao. Just lmao. But now I'm dangerous and selfish. ****ing imbecile. Clown world. Not going to tell her I'm a tainted blood though.

This sh!t has literally tapped into that part of the brain that’s susceptible to religious-minded thinking I swear to god. No pun intended, lol.

But seriously I haven’t seen one person on social media say anything along the lines of “You know what....maybe I kinda got it wrong initially.” You don’t see that on ANY level. The same people who had their minds made up from the very beginning are doubling down further and further. Whether it’s the pro-vax people or anti-vax people. It sickens me.

Don’t follow the detective’s curse of creating a narrative in your brain. You have to be malleable and take the case where the information leads you. But usually these types of people are the ones who wisely sit back and watch sh!t unfold. They’re not preachy about it.

One thing we do know for sure: There isn’t a significant level of people having severe adverse effects from the vaccines or else hospitals would be filled with them.

One thing we don’t know for certain are the long term effects: They could be disastrous, harmless, or somewhere in the middle. Only time will tell.

Statistics you can wipe your ass with. If you die from any illness, or as someone mentioned before, a fukin gunshot, they are counted as COVID deaths.

Similarly, if someone who is vaxxed dies from something that isn't COVID, it will not be counted as a COVID death, but if someone dies from say a bacterial infection, it will be counted as a COVID death.

The statistics are complete and utter fraud. If you want honest statistics, look at the estimated deaths from SARS-CoV (1), the global deaths were estimated to be around 800, due to binding to ACE2 receptors in only a small subset of people, as proven in animal models with COVID. Only one study with genetically modified mice injected with hACE2 receptors showed animals that actually succumbed to death from SARS-CoV-2, every other animal model without genetic modification either had mild or NO symptoms.

SARS-CoV-1 is 79.5% the same molecularly as SARS-CoV-2 AND has the exact same cause of mortality through ACE2 receptors, so how are the "COVID deaths" 1,000+ times higher when nobody did anything different than their normal lives back then?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1287568/

Sounds legit. Bet the 57 year old was obese, a smoker & an alcoholic.

Getting sick

Not dying you low IQ dolt

Jeeez you Merimutts are the stupidest nation on the planet

I think like 90+% of deaths include comorbidities, particularly obesity.

Well said, even as an anti-[COVID]vaxxer I'm aware I could be wrong but I strongly believe that I'm right. I'm only preachy about it because fuk the vaxxer ****g0ts who are endorsing mandates on what is personal health. And these same retards are spreading the absolute lie that vaccines prevent transmission, it is unequivocally false but they will continue treating unvaxxed people like they are harboring the plague or some chit. I acknowledge that the vaccine deaths are also very uncommon, I don't know anyone from my own circle that's had the vax that has had complications but have heard anecdotes from people they've encountered/known.

But one thing I know for sure is that I also don't know a single person that has COVID, including me or anyone in my household (parents). In 2018 I knew 5 people that got the flu, ALL 5 had the flu shot, I didn't know a single person that got the flu without the shot. This coupled with the FACT that every single coronavirus vaccine in history was not only unsuccessful, but CAUSED deaths due to ADE for an otherwise mild illness, is enough for me to never take this chit.

this is confusing,
vaccinated people say they got covid and beat it easily, like it was a common cold.
unvaccinated say they got covid and it wiped them out;
vaccinated have said the same thing.

majority of deaths have been the unvaccinated
the minority of deaths are, the vaccinated

by logic, it's better to be vaccinated because this virus is real

Yup.

Bro, the pro-vaxxers aren’t even willing to say “Alright look....maybe the vaccine isn’t the end all, cure all wonder drug we hoped it would be. But at least it’s not doing X, Y, or Z to the population.” Or “It can still do X, Y, or Z to lower the severity.” They won’t let up a fukking inch. They wanna shove their finger in your face and tell you to shut up and join the team or you’re part of the problem.

I also found it fukking hilarious when Trump got boo’d AT HIS OWN RALLY for saying that he got vaccinated and you should too. Do you know how hard it is to get a Trump rally crowd to boo TRUMP? That’s never happened before. He tried to let up by saying “It’s up to you. I don’t think it should be forced.” But they were so flabbergasted they didn’t wanna hear it.

Can’t stand people with zero flex in them.

Seems extremely unlikely that she's seen zero vaccinated people in hospital in 4 months, because vaccinated people do still die. The vaccinations absolutely reduce the risk of serious illness significantly but they're not a magic bullet unfortunately.

EDIT

https://covidlive.com.au/nsw

So we currently have 555 deaths in NSW, 71.7% of deaths are people with no vaccination and the remainder either are partially or fully vaxxed. Given 90%+ of the adult NSW population are fully vaxxed we can see that unvaccinated over hugely over-represented in the deaths but that's still ~165 dead full or partially vaccinated people.

Same here. BUT COVID was nothing for me. I was unvaccinated. All I did during quarantine was workout, bang gf (who was already immune), & watch youtube out of sheer boredom.

I don't believe you.He's old though. A lot of us on here are young & in shape. I would consider if my personal profile was high-risk (old or fat) to protect myself. If its less than a cold for me what's the point.

It really isn't confusing when you look at the data:



The vaccines aren't perfect, but they do a great job of priming your immune system so when you encounter sars-cov-2 you're far less likely to be hospitalized/die from it.

in the uk, no lockdowns, hardly any restrictions, 60% of admissions are unvaccinated (where 80+% are vaccinated).. we have the largest vaccine take up of the major economies and id say we've benefitted, if you look at it objectively..

Off for my booster now..

[QUOTE=JPF82 post_id=1651658193][b]I really could not care less about what anyone here says about covid[/b], that's great you heard somethings from someone who read some other things about other people reading somethings.

I was just pointing out someones reading comprehension.[/QUOTE]Judging by your super triggered response to her, and the number of replies you have in this thread...you clearly care quite a bit.

Another incredibly intellectually dishonest vaxcuck.

[QUOTE=StoliFun post_id=1651667353]It really isn't confusing when you look at the data:

[img]https://i.imgur.com/Su6CnVH.png[/img

The vaccines aren't perfect, but they do a great job of priming your immune system so when you encounter sars-cov-2 you're far less likely to be hospitalized/die from it.[/QUOTE]Source - CDC. They've really proven to be trustworthy[img]//assets.bodybuilding.com/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

I'm an RN in the ICU and worked in the ER in the beginning if the pandemic. I am absolutely against anyone being forced to take this vaccine under any circumstance. People that know they are in a high risk group should seriously consider. People that aren't will very most likely (not always) be fine. That being said, the only people dying in the ICU from covid pneumonia is people that were not vaccinated. The vast majority of people that end up intubated due to covid will die. And they typically don't die quickly either, rather they go through a process of multiple organ failure, partly due (ironically) to the effects of the ridiculously strong drugs that are used to keep them alive. Eventually they either code to death or their family finally "pulls the plug" and they are terminally extubated. I've seen this all so many times it's actually become boring. We're starting to surge aagain so I'm sure our tyrannical government will use it to regain their lockdown power back.

Do vaccines reduce risk of serious illness/death? - Yes
Do vaccines reduce transmission? - Perhaps, but dampens with mutations i.e. delta
Do vaccines have a black swan risk that can't be predicted by how long it has been out for? - Yes
Should there be vaccine mandates? - No

So many fuking retards. Just imagine taking the same position on all matters because you like a certain political group.

lulz when will purebloods learn

I'm a data analyst at a Fortune 500 company. I live on Zero Hedge and post here when I'm not busy. I have sifted through the information for the past 24 hours. In order to ensure proper vigilance and attention to detail I consumed 200 mg of ******** spaced out in a bi-hourly schedule. I also have been microdosing LSD for the past three years.

I can unequivocally say that there is absolutely nothing profound within this information. It is insubstantial at best, and outright exaggerations bordering on slander at worst.

It would likely be in everyone's best interest to focus on more pertinent issues as opposed to getting lost in a web of obfuscation.

Given the intense mental output of thorough investigation it is essential that one rest to rejuvenate neural productivity.

I suggest going to sleep and completing at least 3 REM cycles before reassessing any further information.

Probably some right wing news website that doesn't employ any legit scientists as fact checkers or consultants and/or some baldly terrible pre-print papers that the aforementioned idiot websites pick up like it's hot news.

There’s this girl I know that I mentioned earlier. She’s 31, skinny 5’2, no co-morbidities, etc. And she has dementia/Alzheimer’s-like symptoms of memory loss that’s scary as fuk. Can’t remember where she lives, her repeat customers, why she’s at a certain place. She says it’s all from contracting covid and posts all over social media how everyone should “JUST GET THE FUKKING JAB!” Because she’s mad at the people who say “But did you die?!?”

I got no response to that I can come up with but it still bothers me to death when someone tells other people what to do because of what they personally experienced. Usually I can come up with some good reply to something like that but I got nothing.