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post 1651699583 11-29-2021, 03:57 PM
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Is the “zero sum game” mindset uniquely American?

The idea of the “zero sum game” or “there’s no free lunches”

The idea that, if I give you something - public healthcare, a living wage, subsidised education - this by definition takes something away from me.

I’ve only ever found it a prevalent idea in the US. It’s not common in Australia, Singapore or any of the states of the former Soviet Union.

Anyone encountered this mindset outside the US of A?
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Originally Posted By r32gojirra⏩
The idea of the “zero sum game” or “there’s no free lunches”

The idea that, if I give you something - public healthcare, a living wage, subsidised education - this by definition takes something away from me.

I’ve only ever found it a prevalent idea in the US. It’s not common in Australia, Singapore or any of the states of the former Soviet Union.

Anyone encountered this mindset outside the US of A?
Why would Americans want to copy the mindset of Aussies who are perpetually locked down, gave up their guns, and have a Covid passport

Singapore has banned unvaccinated from being eligible for free public healthcare.

In sum, you’re gay and so is your country.
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Most liberals have this mindstate for wealth envy.

If there are people making $250k+ it takes away from their $30k salary somehow.

Obviously this makes zero sense since wealth accumulates more wealth to those doing business with the wealthy. And the wealthy need materials, supplies, and labor to make more wealth.
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Originally Posted By MuscleXtreme⏩
Why would Americans want to copy the mindset of Aussies who are perpetually locked down, gave up their guns, and have a Covid passport

Singapore has banned unvaccinated from being eligible for free public healthcare.

In sum, you’re gay and so is your country.
Does anything in your little rant have anything to do with the question I posted or are you just a nutcase
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post 1651699933 11-29-2021, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted By Ephedra⏩
Most liberals have this mindstate for wealth envy.

If there are people making $250k+ it takes away from their $30k salary somehow.

Obviously this makes zero sense since wealth accumulates more wealth to those doing business with the wealthy. And the wealthy need materials, supplies, and labor to make more wealth.
Location: United States

Yeah I think the mindset is common to both sides of politics there

Ever seen a similar attitude outside the states?
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You’re the only person I’ve ever heard frame it quite that way.

People who are against expanding entitlement programs/government aren’t saying they don’t want poor people to have stuff because they want to keep the stuff for themselves.

People who are against expanding entitlement programs/government tend to be that way because it’s expensive and de-incentivizes poor people to work. And yes, it’s expensive for people who actually pay federal taxes, the upper 50% of Americans.
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post 1651700153 11-29-2021, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Someone is rustled from the minimum wage thread.
Ok but chin up champ surely you’ll win the next one
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Lol at this Kangaroo fuker
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post 1651700403 11-29-2021, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted By DrewDarden⏩
You’re the only person I’ve ever heard frame it quite that way.

People who are against expanding entitlement programs/government aren’t saying they don’t want poor people to have stuff because they want to keep the stuff for themselves.

People who are against expanding entitlement programs/government tend to be that way because it’s expensive and de-incentivizes poor people to work. And yes, it’s expensive for people who actually pay taxes, the upper 50% of Americans.
^^^pretty reasonable summary of the mindset I observed stateside. Have you heard people express similar ideas in other countries?
post 1651700483 11-29-2021, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted By anachron⏩
this thread proves you lost ( note that i wasn't trying to "win", i just dgaf )
“Dgaf” but still rustled enough to come into the thread and post

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Spoiler!
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Originally Posted By r32gojirra⏩
^^^pretty reasonable summary of the mindset I observed stateside. Have you heard people express similar ideas in other countries?
Of course not. That mindset comes with freedom and nobody else is free.
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Originally Posted By shmobin⏩
Of course not. That mindset comes with freedom and nobody else is free.
Travelled outside US a lot then?
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once a society reaches a critical mass it will always have this mindset to a greater or lesser degree. however i agree the US seems to cling more tightly to it than other developed countries.
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post 1651701033 11-29-2021, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted By r32gojirra⏩
Travelled outside US a lot then?
Yup.
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Originally Posted By r32gojirra⏩
Does anything in your little rant have anything to do with the question I posted or are you just a nutcase
The only nutcase here is the one that you lick between your boyfriends legs. You Kangarooland fairy.
post 1651701193 11-29-2021, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted By DimTriad⏩
once a society reaches a critical mass it will always have this mindset to a greater or lesser degree. however i agree the US seems to cling more tightly to it than other developed countries.
I would have thought in hugely overpopulated countries like China and India it would be more prevalent because there is much more scarcity of resources.
post 1651701373 11-29-2021, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted By MuscleXtreme⏩
The only nutcase here is the one that you lick between your boyfriends legs. You Kangarooland fairy.
Those are some pretty vivid homoerotic fantasies you have
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Says the guy who made the follow up thread.



“Follow up thread”?

I’d ask what hallucination you’re currently having but tbh not that concerned

Glad you’re enjoying this thread though
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Originally Posted By r32gojirra⏩
Those are some pretty vivid homoerotic fantasies you have
Just speaking the truth. Sorry that it hurts your little wallaby feelings.
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considering OP's post history, it's quite strange how obsessed the guy is with the US. Half of his threads are just triggerings regarding it.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Keep backpedaling brah.

I might have some prime real estate in a thirld world chithole to sell you - beachfront and everything.
Thanks for your support and don’t forget to click “like”
Originally Posted By Tears⏩
considering OP's post history, it's quite strange how obsessed the guy is with the US. Half of his threads are just triggerings regarding it.
If you read the thread, you’d know it’s asking people for their experiences in other countries - I.e. NOT the US

Sorry to have triggered you though
Originally Posted By MuscleXtreme⏩
Just speaking the truth. Sorry that it hurts your little wallaby feelings.
Hey whatever floats your boat guy

Maybe see if Fitnessguy24 will act it out on webcam for you
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Originally Posted By r32gojirra⏩
I would have thought in hugely overpopulated countries like China and India it would be more prevalent because there is much more scarcity of resources.
I have to go with very different cultures.

China has a more collectivist mindset and the individual is expected to live for their family and the country more than for themselves.

In India the caste system meant that people developed the habit of being resigned to their role in life, therefore no reason to be mad...generally an attitude of acceptance.

I think this video is relevant if not specifically about a zero sum mindset.

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"why isn't US communist enough"
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OP, america is 30 trillion dollars in debt and libtards here somehow think the politicians, who are bought by the elites, are going to make the elites pay it all off, or that the future generations will somehow be able to pay it all off.
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
I have to go with very different cultures.

China has a more collectivist mindset and the individual is expected to live for their family and the country more than for themselves.

In India the caste system meant that people developed the habit of being resigned to their role in life, therefore no reason to be mad...generally an attitude of acceptance.

I think this video is relevant if not specifically about a zero sum mindset.

China has an authoritarian rule and social credit system so it doesnt really matter what the chinese commoner's mindset is, they get told what they are getting and that is the end of it
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Mutual investments exist in a lot of networks and are arguably the most important feature for well-being.

I think not every country includes a universal character, and the US includes networks, like most nice parts of the Northeast, with a mutual character.
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