Thread: Bye bye Build Back Better?
12-19-2021, 11:25 AM
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#31
Originally Posted By Scorpion613⏩
The point is people like Manchin and Sinema. It is extremely hard to get every single Senator on the same page, let alone for massive bills like the ones Biden was able to get passed.I'm not sure what point he's trying to make... it's a 50/50 split, with the tiebreaker going to vp kamala. (effectively giving biden and the democrats full control of both branches)
12-19-2021, 11:25 AM
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#32
Originally Posted By tng83⏩
Cry me a fuking river, I don't care what you call it if it gets kids out of poverty and fed then I'm for it. Money for everything except the poor right?You mean permanently pay parents 250-350 per child every month forever? Thats not a tax credit. Thats UBI based on how much you have unprotected sex. Its immoral, unethical, unsustainable, and youre retarded for suggesting it.
12-19-2021, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
If you can't unify within your own party when you effectively control both branches, then you are doing something wrong. (yes this applies to trump too when he was in office)The point is people like Manchin and Sinema. It is extremely hard to get every single Senator on the same page, let alone for massive bills like the ones Biden was able to get passed.
12-19-2021, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted By Scorpion613⏩
Lol, a unfiled party can still have a few swing state Senators that want to sit out a vote because the bill may not be popular back home. That's why you need 52/53 etc.If you can't unify within your own party when you effectively control both branches, then you are doing something wrong. (yes this applies to trump too when he was in office)
12-19-2021, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
The poor already pay the least in taxes, get the largest tax refunds, and collect food stamps, housing assistance, and free healthcare. If you give someone 4 grand a month they have no incentive to earn 3 grand and get off welfare. You'll breed a mountain of dependence and run out of othr people's money to pay for it.Cry me a fuking river, I don't care what you call it if it gets kids out of poverty and fed then I'm for it. Money for everything except the poor right?
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12-19-2021, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
What a stupid fuking retard.Imagine having a 50/50 split in the Senate and accomplishing what Biden did in less than a year.
Yeah thank God Trump ran up Obama's total debt in four years and all we got was a massive fuking tax break for the rich that causes hundreds of billions of future deficits.. fuking idiots I swear.
Yeah thank God Trump ran up Obama's total debt in four years and all we got was a massive fuking tax break for the rich that causes hundreds of billions of future deficits.. fuking idiots I swear.
If you call Biden's skyrocketing price inflation, continuous failure to meet job growth expectations, nonstop increase in debt and spending, catastrophic failure in foreign policy, open border issues, spiking crime rate in broad daylight, 3 COVID variants - an "ACCOMPLISHMENT", then there's no hope to cure your utter braindead idiocy.
Your "tax cut for the rich" bullsh!t has been disproven multiple times, but please continue to be ignorant and stupid:
IRS data proves Trump tax cuts benefited middle, working-class Americans most
https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/...americans-most
Trump was doing fairly fine on national debt (on par with Obummer) until the Democrats forced the job killing state-mandated COVID lockdowns all over the country and berated Trump for trying to keep the economy afloat ("OMG HE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT DEATHS!!!")
12-19-2021, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted By TrueTruth⏩
And this idiot links to opinion pieces as evidence to support his retarded claims.What a stupid fuking retard.
If you call Biden's skyrocketing price inflation, continuous failure to meet job growth expectations, nonstop increase in debt and spending, catastrophic failure in foreign policy, open border issues, spiking crime rate in broad daylight, 3 COVID variants - an "ACCOMPLISHMENT", then there's no hope to cure your utter braindead idiocy.
Your "tax cut for the rich" bullsh!t has been disproven multiple times, but please continue to be ignorant and stupid:
IRS data proves Trump tax cuts benefited middle, working-class Americans most
https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/...americans-most
Trump was doing fairly fine on national debt (on par with Obummer) until the Democrats forced the job killing state-mandated COVID lockdowns all over the country and berated Trump for trying to keep the economy afloat ("OMG HE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT DEATHS!!!")
If you call Biden's skyrocketing price inflation, continuous failure to meet job growth expectations, nonstop increase in debt and spending, catastrophic failure in foreign policy, open border issues, spiking crime rate in broad daylight, 3 COVID variants - an "ACCOMPLISHMENT", then there's no hope to cure your utter braindead idiocy.
Your "tax cut for the rich" bullsh!t has been disproven multiple times, but please continue to be ignorant and stupid:
IRS data proves Trump tax cuts benefited middle, working-class Americans most
https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/...americans-most
Trump was doing fairly fine on national debt (on par with Obummer) until the Democrats forced the job killing state-mandated COVID lockdowns all over the country and berated Trump for trying to keep the economy afloat ("OMG HE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT DEATHS!!!")
12-19-2021, 11:35 AM
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#38
Originally Posted By tng83⏩
This is stupid. Then force the companies making billions in profit off their labor to stop handing out welfare applications when these people work for them. Corporate welfare is ok, but again, fuk the poor working people.The poor already pay the least in taxes, get the largest tax refunds, and collect food stamps, housing assistance, and free healthcare. If you give someone 4 grand a month they have no incentive to earn 3 grand and get off welfare. You'll breed a mountain of dependence and run out of othr people's money to pay for it.
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12-19-2021, 12:01 PM
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#39
Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
If Democrats really cared about the poor, they would create a bill solely to help them. Instead they use the poor to "sell" a bill that is full of BS that doesn't help (and usually works against) the rest of us, while benefiting the rich and large corporations.The point is people like Manchin and Sinema. It is extremely hard to get every single Senator on the same page, let alone for massive bills like the ones Biden was able to get passed.
A few crumbs for the hungry.
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12-19-2021, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted By FatBallz⏩
thats what Pat calls helping the poorIf Democrats really cared about the poor, they would create a bill solely to help them. Instead they use the poor to "sell" a bill that is full of BS that doesn't help (and usually works against) the rest of us, while benefiting the rich and large corporations.
A few crumbs for the hungry.
A few crumbs for the hungry.
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12-19-2021, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Except they're still I poverty Patricia. It's like saying, "WHO cares if they have no business graduating high school, just give them a pass, so they have that diploma....."Cry me a fuking river, I don't care what you call it if it gets kids out of poverty and fed then I'm for it. Money for everything except the poor right?
12-19-2021, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
You're paid what you're worth, sorry if a bagger at Walmart isn't making a "living wage." Maybe they should find a job that'll pay them more?This is stupid. Then force the companies making billions in profit off their labor to stop handing out welfare applications when these people work for them. Corporate welfare is ok, but again, fuk the poor working people.
12-19-2021, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted By FatBallz⏩
What does it for me is how everything that democrats try to do to help those in need involves paying a lot of money to institutions and bureaucracies which are terribly ineffecient and run huge bills doing anything due to missive overhead of excessive overpaid staff.If Democrats really cared about the poor, they would create a bill solely to help them. Instead they use the poor to "sell" a bill that is full of BS that doesn't help (and usually works against) the rest of us, while benefiting the rich and large corporations.
A few crumbs for the hungry.
A few crumbs for the hungry.
For instance, when they have these home health people who go to the homes of elderly/hospice people, the PCT's get about $10-12/hr but the contractor they work for is getting about $27-32/hr. That is one I know directly about. Another I've heard is things like Meals on Wheels where it ends up costing $30-50 per meal to deliver about $7 worth of food. The people behind the scenes are doing basically minimum wage level work/skills and getting paid like they are really working. A lot of democrats work in these jobs.
12-19-2021, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Imagine being so fuking stupid and misinformed that you don’t realize that BBB is a tax cut for the rich lmao.Imagine having a 50/50 split in the Senate and accomplishing what Biden did in less than a year.
Yeah thank God Trump ran up Obama's total debt in four years and all we got was a massive fuking tax break for the rich that causes hundreds of billions of future deficits.. fuking idiots I swear.
Yeah thank God Trump ran up Obama's total debt in four years and all we got was a massive fuking tax break for the rich that causes hundreds of billions of future deficits.. fuking idiots I swear.
Again, you fell for doctored text messages, so this is to be expected.
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12-19-2021, 01:41 PM
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The only thing this laughingstock of an "administration" built back better was the Taliban.
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12-19-2021, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
He still believes in the myth of Russian collusion, Kavanaugh gang rape rings, etc etcImagine being so fuking stupid and misinformed that you don’t realize that BBB is a tax cut for the rich lmao.
Again, you fell for doctored text messages, so this is to be expected.
Again, you fell for doctored text messages, so this is to be expected.
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12-19-2021, 03:50 PM
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Social media is absolutely melting down right now. It’s hilarious. They think they can vote him out for a progressive candidate.
In West Virginia. Just lol
In West Virginia. Just lol
12-19-2021, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted By Olympia2018⏩
If you didn't vote for Biden, then you ain't black.Let’s not forget his promise in 2020 to undecided voters
“If you elect me president I’ll cure cancer!”
My good god lmao!
He goes on a comedy show a few days ago and has to do it virtual while using note cards pre scripted
The liberal party is an abomination to any civilized human being
“If you elect me president I’ll cure cancer!”
My good god lmao!
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
And they're about to go right back into poverty without that extra credit money coming in monthlyYou realize he did actual cut child poverty in half right? The child tax credits?..
And imagine posting in the R&P as much as you do and not knowing what major bills the president has passed...
And imagine posting in the R&P as much as you do and not knowing what major bills the president has passed...
Wort ew in th wold.
12-19-2021, 06:47 PM
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Lol this cucked admin and leftist ****ots that keep tryin to push their commie BS take yet another L.
Dems are going to get annihilated in 2022 and again in 2024.
Dems are going to get annihilated in 2022 and again in 2024.
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12-19-2021, 07:17 PM
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12-19-2021, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted By Jasonw1178⏩
I feel the same way. I am a supporter of social programs, but the inherent waste involved is frustrating. Everybody tries to cash in on the process.What does it for me is how everything that democrats try to do to help those in need involves paying a lot of money to institutions and bureaucracies which are terribly ineffecient and run huge bills doing anything due to missive overhead of excessive overpaid staff.
For instance, when they have these home health people who go to the homes of elderly/hospice people, the PCT's get about $10-12/hr but the contractor they work for is getting about $27-32/hr. That is one I know directly about. Another I've heard is things like Meals on Wheels where it ends up costing $30-50 per meal to deliver about $7 worth of food. The people behind the scenes are doing basically minimum wage level work/skills and getting paid like they are really working. A lot of democrats work in these jobs.
For instance, when they have these home health people who go to the homes of elderly/hospice people, the PCT's get about $10-12/hr but the contractor they work for is getting about $27-32/hr. That is one I know directly about. Another I've heard is things like Meals on Wheels where it ends up costing $30-50 per meal to deliver about $7 worth of food. The people behind the scenes are doing basically minimum wage level work/skills and getting paid like they are really working. A lot of democrats work in these jobs.
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12-19-2021, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
ftfy...You're paid what you're worth, sorry if a bagger at Walmart isn't making a "living wage." Maybe they shoulddevelop skills in order tofind a job that'll pay them more?
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12-19-2021, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Can you at least try harder with the trolling.You realize he did actual cut child poverty in half right? The child tax credits?..
Seriously? Half?
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Originally Posted By tng83⏩
I guarantee most don't understand that it's an advance either and social media will be flooded with angry people complaining their refund is less.And what happens in January when household income is reduced back to pre early tax credits? And when a large percentage of families with children get a 2000 dollar tax refund rather than a 6000 dollar one?
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Originally Posted By tng83⏩
The latter part is not true. It wont be a significant difference because the child tax credit was increased from $2k to $3600 and they are just prepaying some of the credit. If the amount was left at 2k and they were doing this, then yeah you would see a huge drop in refunds but given it was bumped up, it will be pretty minorAnd what happens in January when household income is reduced back to pre early tax credits? And when a large percentage of families with children get a 2000 dollar tax refund rather than a 6000 dollar one?
12-20-2021, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted By JoshSP1985⏩
Its an advance but it was also increased from 2k per child to $3600 per child so the refund difference is going to be minor and certainly not half like people thinkI guarantee most don't understand that it's an advance either and social media will be flooded with angry people complaining their refund is less.
12-20-2021, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
all the cheating in the world isnt going to reverse course for you this time patty. Fortify away, the people will not accept it again, its going to be a bloodbath next election.Seven.
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NYPat screeching overtime ITT. LMFAO @ loser Biden accomplishing NOTHING.
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