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Originally Posted By jeshelton
It's not Jenny McCarthy talking about 40 year old vaccine that can be tested for mercury content.

These absolutely qualified, Ivy League educated, seasoned and published doctors go against the news parrot narrative grain and it makes people uncomfortable in having to think and change their opinion.

Post any podcast where a doctor on the other side of this can fully articulate the same kinds of conversation, other than saying "there's no excuse, get the vaccine".

Thereareother options, in this and other countries, which are being suppressed for -whatever reason- (money).
It's just odd that he sought the limelight after being upset he wasn't acknowledged for these vaccines. Either in the patents or awards.

He even told the nurse who administered his Moderna shot that he invented it, so she took a selfie with him.

Now he says they are more harmful than helpful.

But his new drug is probably the answer. I wonder if he'll be on that patent?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
It's just odd that he sought the limelight after being upset he wasn't acknowledged for these vaccines. Either in the patents or awards.

He even told the nurse who administered his Moderna shot that he invented it, so she took a selfie with him.

Now he says they are more harmful than helpful.
OK - Even using your angle that he wants attention.

Why does 2.5hrs of story line up with McCullough's and many other doctors testimony and pre treatment plans? Why not use readily available drug combinations that cost pennies vs having the government print trillions, secure and distribute vaccines, then more vaccines, more boosters, - knowing this stuff does not prevent spread and people are still in hospitals because there is -zero- treatment plan for early, middle, and late stage COVID patients other than painkillers and a vent?

When you're talking about odd stuff, if you actually listen to these and dig through their multiple citations, the only odd things that remain are what the hell is going on with how it's being handled in the US.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Is this in relation to ivermectin? Didn't they do a relatively complete lit review in their last update? Which studies did they ignore?



I haven't said anything about lockdowns. But, I agree there is a lot more going on. I just don't think it's exclusively Democrats or "the left" manipulating and pulling strings. I don't think the Republicans or the "the right" have individual citizens' best interests in mind, either.



What do you know I want? You lost me here.




I find it intriguing how demands are used in Misc discussions.


I disagree that there are no studies or pre-prints regarding vaccines and long covid.

I disagree that pepsid is the answer. I also disagree that he's not personally invested.

I disagree that vaccines are conclusively disrupting women's menstrual cycles.

I disagree that anyone who tests positive is being listed with covid as the primary cause of death - even if you restrict his claims to just the US.

I disagree that all hospital are lying to cash in. However, there are additional funds for covid deaths, for medicare-funded patients.

I disagree with how he presents the Maddie de Garay case - clearly sensationalizing.

His newly created term "Mass Formation Psychosis" sure is catching on though.
Mass psychosis is not a new term, I haven't heard it phrased quite that way but there are clear examples of it. You can see it in the German population in the run-up to WW2, even at the end with the 10s of thousands of Germans who committed mass suicide after Hitler did. There's elements of it in the Bolshevik's dekulakization of the Russian Empire in the run-up to WWI as well.

I've been hearing about how its seen as a potential social-media driven cause in the Myanmar ethnic cleansing and coup the last couple years but I have not read nearly enough about it.
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Originally Posted By engj
Mass psychosis is not a new term, I haven't heard it phrased quite that way but there are clear examples of it. You can see it in the German population in the run-up to WW2, even at the end with the 10s of thousands of Germans who committed mass suicide after Hitler did. There's elements of it in the Bolshevik's dekulakization of the Russian Empire in the run-up to WWI as well.

I've been hearing about how its seen as a potential social-media driven cause in the Myanmar ethnic cleansing and coup the last couple years but I have not read nearly enough about it.
I didn't say mass psychosis was a new term. That's not what he's using. Existing terms don't trend as well as "new discoveries".

I agree there is mass manipulation. I disagree that there's only one angle to the psy-op.
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Originally Posted By jeshelton
OK - Even using your angle that he wants attention.

Why does 2.5hrs of story line up with McCullough's and many other doctors testimony and pre treatment plans? Why not use readily available drug combinations that cost pennies vs having the government print trillions, secure and distribute vaccines, then more vaccines, more boosters, - knowing this stuff does not prevent spread and people are still in hospitals because there is -zero- treatment plan for early, middle, and late stage COVID patients other than painkillers and a vent?

When you're talking about odd stuff, if you actually listen to these and dig through their multiple citations, the only odd things that remain are what the hell is going on with how it's being handled in the US.
This is the entanglement issue I've tried to bring up.

Vaccines and treatments are not mutually exclusive.

Vaccines and mandates are, or should be, distinct.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
I didn't say mass psychosis was a new term. That's not what he's using. Existing terms don't trend as well as "new discoveries".

I agree there is mass manipulation. I disagree that there's only one angle to the psy-op.
"mass formation" is a term used by Freud bro. It's not new. Are you really trying to dismiss him because he said mass formation instead of mass psychosis?

what a pedantic midwit you are
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Originally Posted By hackerwacker
"mass formation" is a term used by Freud bro. Are you really trying to dismiss him because he said mass formation instead of mass psychosis?

what a pedantic midwit you are
That's far from the only thing I've said in this thread.

Search a couple of scientific databases and see how many hits you get for "mass formation psychosis". You'll get more for Massenbildung.

Dude is obviously genius. I don't think he used a new term by mistake.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
That's far from the only thing I've said in this thread.

Search a couple of scientific databases and see how many hits you get for "mass formation psychosis". You'll get more for Massenbildung.

Dude is obviously genius. I don't think he used a new term by mistake.
yet you still said it. he didn't make a "new term". You are trying to paint him as a manipulative charlatan by claiming he is pulling new terms out of his ass. You know exactly what you are doing by trying to argue that.
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Originally Posted By hackerwacker
yet you still said it. he didn't make a "new term". You are trying to paint him as a manipulative charlatan by claiming he is pulling new terms out of his ass. You know exactly what you are doing by trying to argue that.
What do you get when you google or duckduckgo the term "mass formation psychoisis"?

What do you get for "mass psychosis" or "mass formation"?

Do you think those results were different before the podcast?
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Originally Posted By Griggz
Never bend and most importantly never let a woman come into your life and change the way you think. I have seen this happen to so many of my friends.
Dude, I'm seeing that with some of my guy friends. I can't even get them to leave the house for a beer. And none of them have had COVID including me. I mean it's good to take precautions, but to let a virus, govt, or media change your way of life because of fear is a different story.
Originally Posted By jeshelton
It's not Jenny McCarthy talking about 40 year old vaccine that can be tested for mercury content.

These absolutely qualified, Ivy League educated, seasoned and published doctors go against the news parrot narrative grain and it makes people uncomfortable in having to think and change their opinion.

Post any podcast where a doctor on the other side of this can fully articulate the same kinds of conversation, other than saying "there's no excuse, get the vaccine".

Thereareother options, in this and other countries, which are being suppressed for -whatever reason- (money).
Will any other medical professionals have a 3hr dialogue with Joe Rogan? sanjay gupta is the only one so far correct? and he got completely obliterated and looked silly.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Is this in relation to ivermectin? Didn't they do a relatively complete lit review in their last update? Which studies did they ignore?
When they make a tweet saying "You are not a horse. You are not a cow. Seriously, y'all stop it.” when referencing a drug that has shown lots of promise with regards to treatment for Covid and lots of other problems it’s an issue. When they blatantly lie and say they had no evidence that hydroxychloroquine could be useful despite it being sent to them and people knowing for a long time it had lots of promise in preventing viral replication, then yeah…it’s a problem. When they silence and shun people for laying out valid concerns with regards to lockdowns it’s a problem. And as he pointed out, for some reason India decided to not disclose the contents of the care packages they used to seemingly squash a huge surge of Covid in its tracks. Don’t you think that information is important?
I haven't said anything about lockdowns. But, I agree there is a lot more going on. I just don't think it's exclusively Democrats or "the left" manipulating and pulling strings. I don't think the Republicans or the "the right" have individual citizens' best interests in mind, either.
Yes there are tons of republicans that are greedy and lots that don’t have the best interest of their constituents at the top of their priority list. Still, there is only one side that seems concerned with mandates(and is actively pushing back against them). There is only one side that seems concerned with making sure people have freedom of speech.


I find it intriguing how demands are used in Misc discussions.


I disagree that there are no studies or pre-prints regarding vaccines and long covid.
I can’t remember exactly how he worded it, but if that’s what he said you may be correct that he is wrong. If there are studies on long Covid then surely you can find some to share with us. Do you disagree with him because you know he’s wrong or do you just think he’s wrong?
I disagree that pepsid is the answer. I also disagree that he's not personally invested.
He didn’t say it’s the answer. He said he used it himself and that it can be included as part of a broader comprehensive approach to treating people. Are you saying you disagree with his statement that it can help? You are probably right that he will profit in some way from what he develops, but if he comes up with a legit treatment shouldn’t he be rewarded?
I disagree that vaccines are conclusively disrupting women's menstrual cycles.
Well we’ll have to wait and see on that one. There is certainly enough evidence to suggest it’s at the very least plausible.
I disagree that anyone who tests positive is being listed with covid as the primary cause of death - even if you restrict his claims to just the US.
Did he say anyone who tests positive gets counted as a Covid death? Or did he say lots of deaths have been inaccurately attributed to Covid? Because if it’s the latter then it isn’t disputable, we know that has happened lots of times.
I disagree that all hospital are lying to cash in. However, there are additional funds for covid deaths, for medicare-funded patients.
Did he say all hospitals are doing it?
I disagree with how he presents the Maddie de Garay case - clearly sensationalizing.
So you disagree with his presentation, but can’t really point out anything from it that you disagree with.
His newly created term "Mass Formation Psychosis" sure is catching on though.
Did he create that term? And even if he did, why do you have a problem with it unless you’re scared that it might apply to you?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
What do you get when you google or duckduckgo the term "mass formation psychoisis"?

What do you get for "mass psychosis" or "mass formation"?

Do you think those results were different before the podcast?
The labeling of this event as mass formation, or mass psychosis didn't start with Dr. Malone.

AFAIK it began with a professor of clinical psychology from Belgium who has been doing interviews on the subject for some time.

This interview is from March 2021:
https://dailysceptic.org/interview-w...al-psychology/

Some excerpts...
Well, sickness and suffering are always bad, but the deleterious effects of the government response are disproportionate to the health risk of the virus. Professionally, I am involved in two research projects on corona. As a result, I have been working fairly intensively with the data. Clearly, the virus mortality rate is quite low.

Regardless of any pre-existing medical problems, just about every elderly person who died was added to the list of corona deaths. I personally only know one person who was registered as a corona death. He was a terminal cancer patient who died with rather than from corona.

Several emergency doctors called me during the second wave. Some told me that their ward was absolutely not overrun with corona patients. Others told me that more than half of the patients in the ICU did not have corona or showed such mild symptoms that they would have been sent home to recover, were they diagnosed with influenza.

Make no mistake: at university and in the medical world there are many people who are amazed by what is going on. I have quite a few friends in the medical field who don‘t accept the conventional narrative. They say “open your eyes, can‘t you see this virus isn’t the plague?” But all too often they don‘t take the step to say this publicly. Moreover, for each critical voice, thirty others do go along with the story, even if this means that they have to abandon their critical scientific standards.

In 2005 the so-called “replication crisis” erupted in the sciences. Several committees set up to investigate scientific fraud cases found that scientific research is teeming with errors. Often the stated conclusions are of very dubious value. In the wake of the crisis, several papers appeared with titles that leave little to the imagination. In 2005, John Ioannidis, Professor of Medical Statistics at Stanford, published Why most published research findings are false. In 2016, a different research group wrote about the same topic, in Reproducibility: a Tragedy of Errors published in the medical journal Nature. These are just two examples of the very extensive literature describing this problem. I myself am well aware of the shaky scientific foundation of many research results.In addition to my master’s degree in clinical psychology, I earned a master’s in statistics. My doctorate dealt with measurement problems in the field of psychology.
Worth reading more. Basically talks about how he saw that the data didn't support the response and that it took some time for him to recognize that what we are seeing is mass formation.

He has a double masters and a doctorate, not that his credentials will mean anything to people who are unwilling to consider that they may have been caught up in a mass event.
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I watched the whole thing before youtube canned it. Interesting stuff.
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You demanded I list things I disagreed with.
Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
When they make a tweet saying "You are not a horse. You are not a cow. Seriously, y'all stop it.” when referencing a drug that has shown lots of promise with regards to treatment for Covid and lots of other problems it’s an issue. When they blatantly lie and say they had no evidence that hydroxychloroquine could be useful despite it being sent to them and people knowing for a long time it had lots of promise in preventing viral replication, then yeah…it’s a problem. When they silence and shun people for laying out valid concerns with regards to lockdowns it’s a problem. And as he pointed out, for some reason India decided to not disclose the contents of the care packages they used to seemingly squash a huge surge of Covid in its tracks. Don’t you think that information is important?
You said the CDC ignored countless studies. Which ones?
Yes there are tons of republicans that are greedy and lots that don’t have the best interest of their constituents at the top of their priority list. Still, there is only one side that seems concerned with mandates(and is actively pushing back against them). There is only one side that seems concerned with making sure people have freedom of speech.
Only one side is currently in power. The other side wants to be in power and has decided on an angle. IMO
I can’t remember exactly how he worded it, but if that’s what he said you may be correct that he is wrong. If there are studies on long Covid then surely you can find some to share with us. Do you disagree with him because you know he’s wrong or do you just think he’s wrong?
You watched it and got mad when I said he was misrepresenting. Did you just take what he said at face value?
He didn’t say it’s the answer. He said he used it himself and that it can be included as part of a broader comprehensive approach to treating people. Are you saying you disagree with his statement that it can help? You are probably right that he will profit in some way from what he develops, but if he comes up with a legit treatment shouldn’t he be rewarded?
Everyone seems pretty upset that pharma companies are profiting from vaccines.
Well we’ll have to wait and see on that one. There is certainly enough evidence to suggest it’s at the very least plausible.
His discussion was not "we'll have to wait and see".
Did he say anyone who tests positive gets counted as a Covid death? Or did he say lots of deaths have been inaccurately attributed to Covid? Because if it’s the latter then it isn’t disputable, we know that has happened lots of times.
Gunshot victims counted as covid deaths was his example.
Did he say all hospitals are doing it?
Only American hospitals
So you disagree with his presentation, but can’t really point out anything from it that you disagree with.
He states she is in a wheelchair and on a nasal tube from the vaccine as though it's a fact. Is he privy to some secret information? Completely speculative - stated unequivocally.
Did he create that term? And even if he did, why do you have a problem with it unless you’re scared that it might apply to you?
It sure seems like he did. My point is that he's using a novel term to garner attention, so he is part of what he describes.

It's not ONE psy-op.

Look a few posts above, to paraphrase: "if you believe in the jabs, you're a deliberate traitor".

I also like how he danced around what got him banned.

First, I do not think social media banning is acceptable. It only adds fuel to the fire.

But what he posted was a presentation "The Pfizer inoculations do more harm than good". Kind of messed up that the people who made the presentation weren't banned and continue on with the message.
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Originally Posted By katya422
The labeling of this event as mass formation, or mass psychosis didn't start with Dr. Malone.

AFAIK it began with a professor of clinical psychology from Belgium who has been doing interviews on the subject for some time.

This interview is from March 2021:
https://dailysceptic.org/interview-w...al-psychology/
Agreed. But "mass formation psychosis" does seem to have begun with Malone, as discussed above.
Some excerpts...
Worth reading more. Basically talks about how he saw that the data didn't support the response and that it took some time for him to recognize that what we are seeing is mass formation.

He has a double masters and a doctorate, not that his credentials will mean anything to people who are unwilling to consider that they may have been caught up in a mass event.
The replication crisis is one of the driving reasons I'm a Bayesian.



Everyone has been caught up in a mass event. There is more than one side to it.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
You said the CDC ignored countless studies. Which ones?
Everyone that suggests ivermectin and hydrox can be an effective early treatment option.
Only one side is currently in power. The other side wants to be in power and has decided on an angle. IMO
It’s not an “angle”, it’s a way of governing people. I don’t have to be injected to keep my job or go anywhere in my state. Other than the period of time from March 2020-June 2020 my kids have been in school in person. Other than a few weeks in April 2020 no businesses have ever been forced to close in my state. We never had a mask mandate because our governor preferred to leave it up to local govt. and local businesses. Why? Because I live in a state with a governor who believes in peoples’ right to choose what’s best for them and act accordingly. Just because you refuse to acknowledge one side is doing a much better job of governing people during this mess that doesn’t make it “an angle”. It just makes it a better choice.
You watched it and got mad when I said he was misrepresenting. Did you just take what he said at face value?
I did take what he said at face value, though I’m certainly open to being shown that he was wrong. Did you ever find any of those studies on long covid? If so I’d love to see them, and if not then I’ll just assume he was correct in what he said and that you were wrong in doubting him.
Everyone seems pretty upset that pharma companies are profiting from vaccines.
It’s more about how they are profiting. They are shutting down dissent, controlling information, rolling out injections without adequate testing while also being 100% protected from retaliation for all the harm they are doing, and on top of it all they are being paid by the taxpayers. I have not ever received the injection and don’t ever intend to, yet I will help contribute to record profits for big pharma via my tax dollars.
His discussion was not "we'll have to wait and see".
Well I will take his word for it over yours. He is much more knowledgeable on the topic and has seen a lot more information. So sure, you can take issue with his claim but that doesn’t make it false.
Gunshot victims counted as covid deaths was his example.
And there have been tons of examples of people being counted as Covid deaths when Covid wasn’t the cause of death. That isn’t disputable.
Only American hospitals
No, you said he claimed all hospitals did it. Did he claim that, or did you just lie about it?
He states she is in a wheelchair and on a nasal tube from the vaccine as though it's a fact. Is he privy to some secret information? Completely speculative - stated unequivocally.



It sure seems like he did. My point is that he's using a novel term to garner attention, so he is part of what he describes.

It's not ONE psy-op.

Look a few posts above, to paraphrase: "if you believe in the jabs, you're a deliberate traitor".

I also like how he danced around what got him banned.

First, I do not think social media banning is acceptable. It only adds fuel to the fire.

But what he posted was a presentation "The Pfizer inoculations do more harm than good". Kind of messed up that the people who made the presentation weren't banned and continue on with the message.
Or maybe he’s just using the term because that’s what’s happening…..







Edit to add- fittingly enough I was just looking for a new book to buy with one of my gift cards and found this, which is probably one of the big reasons the term has taken off so much lately.


https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/uni...9781637583197#
As the COVID-19 pandemic unfolded, LA-based psychiatrist Mark McDonald grew increasingly concerned by the negative mental health effects he witnessed among his patients—and Americans nationwide. These negative effects—stress, anxiety, depression, addiction, domestic violence, suicidal ideation—were all directly traceable to the climate of fear being stoked by public health authorities and irresponsibly amplified by national media. These fears in turn drove a hysterical overreaction from government in the form of draconian lockdowns and mask and vaccine mandates of questionable value. But the fear did not abate and quickly took on a life of its own, becoming an unstoppable force in all our lives. At last McDonald began to speak out, explaining that America is actually suffering from two pandemics: a viral one and a psychological one, a "pandemic of fear" that is in many ways more dangerous and damaging than the virus itself. Rooted in the natural anxieties of women on behalf of their children and families, inflamed and amplified by sensationalistic media, and driven over the top by hamfisted authoritarian measures from those in power,McDonald diagnoses the country at large as suffering from a mass delusional psychosis. This is not a metaphor. The malady itself is very real.Whether we can regain our collective sanity as a society remains to be seen.
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Lol the interview pretty much tells you the vaccine is meant to "Kill You"

After reading the World Economic Forum 2030 agenda, it seems they want to reduce the population to 500m

Soooooo how would they achieve this?

mRNA vaccines with no animal studies. Yet alone in court not to release information for 90years?

GET REAL.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
I did take what he said at face value, though I’m certainly open to being shown that he was wrong. Did you ever find any of those studies on long covid? If so I’d love to see them, and if not then I’ll just assume he was correct in what he said and that you were wrong in doubting him.
Can I just say "everyone that suggests vaccination might provide benefit regarding long covid?
Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
When the CDC ignores countless studies and then spins up one designed to tell them what they want to hear, and then uses it to guide public policy regardless of the evidence that suggests they are wrong…..
Originally Posted By J.L.C.
You said the CDC ignored countless studies. Which ones?
Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
Everyone that suggests ivermectin and hydrox can be an effective early treatment option.
Probably not

So here's a couple:

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....17.21263608v1

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...460-6/fulltext

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....26.21265508v3
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Can I just say "everyone that suggests vaccination might provide benefit regarding long covid?



Probably not

Here's a couple:

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....17.21263608v1

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...460-6/fulltext

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....26.21265508v3
See, that wasn’t so hard. After 12 pages of this thread you’ve managed to point out a single legitimate gripe from the 3 hours he spends tearing down the current environment and all the problems we see with our approach…….and it’s about a claim he made about long Covid studies.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
See, that wasn’t so hard. After 12 pages of this thread you’ve managed to point out a single legitimate gripe from the 3 hours he spends tearing down the current environment and all the problems we see with our approach…….and it’s about a claim he made about long Covid studies.
I guess we can skip the other things I took issue with. It seems one sided that I have to prove or justify any counter arguments, but anything you or Malone claim is taken at face value with no support.
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Originally Posted By BlackHeart.au
Lol the interview pretty much tells you the vaccine is meant to "Kill You"
Is that why he wants credit for inventing the technology?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Is that why he wants credit for inventing the technology?
5 years max to live.

Enjoy it.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Is this in relation to ivermectin? Didn't they do a relatively complete lit review in their last update? Which studies did they ignore?
**** you you dirt fkin cock sucker. I would smile at the sight of your tombstone.
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Originally Posted By engj
Mass psychosis is not a new term, I haven't heard it phrased quite that way but there are clear examples of it. You can see it in the German population in the run-up to WW2, even at the end with the 10s of thousands of Germans who committed mass suicide after Hitler did. There's elements of it in the Bolshevik's dekulakization of the Russian Empire in the run-up to WWI as well.

I've been hearing about how its seen as a potential social-media driven cause in the Myanmar ethnic cleansing and coup the last couple years but I have not read nearly enough about it.
Every generation has its mass hysteria that smart people exploit

Commies under the beds
Salem witch trials
And many more

As society and becomes more divided expect corporations to use mass hysteria for their own ends
Plant the trees in whose shade your grandchildren will play
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Originally Posted By moosik85
Every generation has its mass hysteria that smart people exploit

Commies under the beds
Salem witch trials
And many more

As society and becomes more divided expect corporations to use mass hysteria for their own ends
For sure.

But I think corporations work with both the left and the right.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
I guess we can skip the other things I took issue with. It seems one sided that I have to prove or justify any counter arguments, but anything you or Malone claim is taken at face value with no support.
We didn’t skip them, I addressed each complaint you made individually. Feel free to go back and read my posts.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
We didn’t skip them, I addressed each complaint you made individually. Feel free to go back and read my posts.
Are you planning to share any of the countless studies demonstrating ivermectin and/or HCQ efficacy that were not included in the NIH review and thus ignored by the CDC
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Are you planning to share any of the countless studies demonstrating ivermectin and/or HCQ efficacy that were not included in the NIH review and thus ignored by the CDC
This one is kind of interesting:https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33278625/It isn't huge but it is a controlled trial which showed some benefit in the group taking ivermectin, although the study excluded old sick people and was basically conducted on people who would more or less easily survive covid anyway.
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Originally Posted By StoliFun
This one is kind of interesting:https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33278625/It isn't huge but it is a controlled trial which showed some benefit in the group taking ivermectin, although the study excluded old sick people and was basically conducted on people who would more or less easily survive covid anyway.
That is an interesting one. While the CI's do overlap, the mean clearance is lower and there were no adverse effects.

But, it was included in the NIH review (ref #16):
https://www.covid19treatmentguidelin...ermectin-data/
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Are you planning to share any of the countless studies demonstrating ivermectin and/or HCQ efficacy that were not included in the NIH review and thus ignored by the CDC
https://c19ivermectin.com

https://c19early.com
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