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Quebec judge temporarily suspends visitation rights for unvaccinated father
01-13-2022, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted By sooby⏩
Possibly because the outcomes are not binary. Unfortunately, the reality of covid infection isn't as simple as you either die (unlikely) or you're fine. It's possible the judge is thinking about the spectrum of possible outcomes and what steps can be taken to reduce the chances of negative consequences for a child and the other children involved, where the chances of those negative consequences can be reduced.The argument was that is how pointless it is. I just made a comparison because alot of miscers quite literally have dick for brains so maybe it would be easier to understand. Read the rest of my post. Not seeing the bigger picture and shifting arguments is a theme of your posts. Case in point it's not about "well why doesn't he just comply get the vaccine!". It's about the idea of courts forcing/imposing intrusive and non-sensical stipulations on people's families that have no bearing on what the reality is. It's "victim blaming" logic. Maybe you just don't understand that but that is okay.
You made the point that he is going to live even with the vaccine. So are the children, whether he is vaccinated or not so what's your point? "It's a pandemic!" is not a reasonable argument anymore. It's on the courts to show and demonstrate that an unvaccinated father is a threat to children, not the other way around. Are they, or are they not? Have fathers not been able to see their children over flu shots? There would maybe be an argument if vaccines actually stopped or significantly reduced the spread and if the children were immunocompromised in any way. None of that is present. Are the courts just going to take away people's children for being unvaccinated and making ******** posts because they are deemed a danger and a public health risk.
You made the point that he is going to live even with the vaccine. So are the children, whether he is vaccinated or not so what's your point? "It's a pandemic!" is not a reasonable argument anymore. It's on the courts to show and demonstrate that an unvaccinated father is a threat to children, not the other way around. Are they, or are they not? Have fathers not been able to see their children over flu shots? There would maybe be an argument if vaccines actually stopped or significantly reduced the spread and if the children were immunocompromised in any way. None of that is present. Are the courts just going to take away people's children for being unvaccinated and making ******** posts because they are deemed a danger and a public health risk.
01-13-2022, 08:08 AM
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Also a violation of the Nuremberg code, article 6 section 3. Our governments are committing war crimes that they implemented and approved.
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01-13-2022, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted By Bracket199⏩
think you forgot the part where omicron spreads faster in vaxxedHere's a better article, OP.
https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/it-sets-...hild-1.5737271
Imagine putting your own ego over a shot, and refusing it for your child. Just LMAO.
https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/it-sets-...hild-1.5737271
Imagine putting your own ego over a shot, and refusing it for your child. Just LMAO.
01-13-2022, 08:19 AM
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[QUOTE=chaunce54 post_id=1654247933]I guess we need to put all kids in bubbles to protect them from a cold.
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01-13-2022, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
After 90 days vaxxed individuals are a larger threat for spread then unvaxxed.Possibly because the outcomes are not binary. Unfortunately, the reality of covid infection isn't as simple as you either die (unlikely) or you're fine. It's possible the judge is thinking about the spectrum of possible outcomes and what steps can be taken to reduce the chances of negative consequences for a child and the other children involved, where the chances of those negative consequences can be reduced.
All vaxxed need to quarantine to save lives.
01-13-2022, 08:27 AM
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When people start snapping and clapping back, don't be surprised. If you support these measures, the blood's on your hands.
01-13-2022, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted By hendrixfreak70⏩
Honestly we donβt need to. We need to just keep telling them they are stupid and let them destroy themselves. I mean obv fight back if you get backed into a corner, but the violence will just be used by them to justify what they do. They will double down not be reflective.When people start snapping and clapping back, don't be surprised. If you support these measures, the blood's on your hands.
01-13-2022, 08:41 AM
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01-13-2022, 08:52 AM
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01-13-2022, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
think you forgot the part where omicron spreads faster in vaxxed
Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
Any sources for either of these claims? The available data don't seem to support these conclusions.After 90 days vaxxed individuals are a larger threat for spread then unvaxxed.
All vaxxed need to quarantine to save lives.
All vaxxed need to quarantine to save lives.
01-13-2022, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted By Sublime25⏩
And we know the democrats would do this here too. Gotta aire this to as many independent voters as possible.French article
https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle...accin-covid-19
As long as the father will remain unvaccinated, he won't be able to see his child again.
Fck this trash world
https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle...accin-covid-19
As long as the father will remain unvaccinated, he won't be able to see his child again.
Fck this trash world
Also, his vaccinated housemates can see their kids, and can spread the virus to the father. This is not about protecting him. It is only about forcing their will on him.
01-13-2022, 09:24 AM
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01-13-2022, 09:25 AM
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01-13-2022, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted By Barteh⏩
Soon, my friend, soon.I'm surprised more people aren't killed over this.
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01-13-2022, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted By project3⏩
This has yet to happen because this case will open a pendora box.quebec the ****t land fining and taxing the unvaxx
We don't want social credit both vaxx and unvaxx
01-13-2022, 12:13 PM
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01-13-2022, 12:18 PM
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01-13-2022, 02:39 PM
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Death isn't the only possible negative outcome of infection.
Immunological dysfunction persists for 8 months following initial mild-to-moderate SARS-CoV-2 infection
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41590-021-01113-x
"Patients with LC had highly activated innate immune cells, lacked naive T and B cells and showed elevated expression of type I IFN (IFN-Ξ²) and type III IFN (IFN-Ξ»1) that remained persistently high at 8 months after infection."
Immunological dysfunction persists for 8 months following initial mild-to-moderate SARS-CoV-2 infection
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41590-021-01113-x
"Patients with LC had highly activated innate immune cells, lacked naive T and B cells and showed elevated expression of type I IFN (IFN-Ξ²) and type III IFN (IFN-Ξ»1) that remained persistently high at 8 months after infection."
01-13-2022, 02:58 PM
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01-13-2022, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted By ymer⏩
I'm not an author on that one, but it's consistent with the larger body of work reporting 20-30% of infected people experience LC. Even Malone had LC.You missed the opening statement:
"A proportion of patients surviving acute coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) infection develop post-acute COVID syndrome (long COVID (LC)) lasting longer than 12 weeks."
And further down:
". Of the 147 patients recruited (70.5% through ADAPT sites and 29.5% externally), 31 participants (21.08%) were designated as LC based on the occurrence of one of three major symptoms (fatigue, dyspnea or chest pain) at month 4 (Supplementary Table 1)"
So 21.8% of a super small sample reported either one of the "three major symptoms": fatigue, dyspnea or chest pain.
Your study is trash.
"A proportion of patients surviving acute coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) infection develop post-acute COVID syndrome (long COVID (LC)) lasting longer than 12 weeks."
And further down:
". Of the 147 patients recruited (70.5% through ADAPT sites and 29.5% externally), 31 participants (21.08%) were designated as LC based on the occurrence of one of three major symptoms (fatigue, dyspnea or chest pain) at month 4 (Supplementary Table 1)"
So 21.8% of a super small sample reported either one of the "three major symptoms": fatigue, dyspnea or chest pain.
Your study is trash.
01-13-2022, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted By ymer⏩
Lmaooooooo. RektYou missed the opening statement:
"A proportion of patients surviving acute coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) infection develop post-acute COVID syndrome (long COVID (LC)) lasting longer than 12 weeks."
And further down:
". Of the 147 patients recruited (70.5% through ADAPT sites and 29.5% externally), 31 participants (21.08%) were designated as LC based on the occurrence of one of three major symptoms (fatigue, dyspnea or chest pain) at month 4 (Supplementary Table 1)"
So 21.8% of a super small sample reported either one of the "three major symptoms": fatigue, dyspnea or chest pain.
Your study is trash.
"A proportion of patients surviving acute coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) infection develop post-acute COVID syndrome (long COVID (LC)) lasting longer than 12 weeks."
And further down:
". Of the 147 patients recruited (70.5% through ADAPT sites and 29.5% externally), 31 participants (21.08%) were designated as LC based on the occurrence of one of three major symptoms (fatigue, dyspnea or chest pain) at month 4 (Supplementary Table 1)"
So 21.8% of a super small sample reported either one of the "three major symptoms": fatigue, dyspnea or chest pain.
Your study is trash.
01-13-2022, 03:11 PM
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lol at remaining in a country like that
01-13-2022, 03:13 PM
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01-13-2022, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted By ymer⏩
J.L.C takes anotherLYou missed the opening statement:
"A proportion of patients surviving acute coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) infection develop post-acute COVID syndrome (long COVID (LC)) lasting longer than 12 weeks."
And further down:
". Of the 147 patients recruited (70.5% through ADAPT sites and 29.5% externally), 31 participants (21.08%) were designated as LC based on the occurrence of one of three major symptoms (fatigue, dyspnea or chest pain) at month 4 (Supplementary Table 1)"
So 21.8% of a super small sample reported either one of the "three major symptoms": fatigue, dyspnea or chest pain.
Your study is trash.
"A proportion of patients surviving acute coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) infection develop post-acute COVID syndrome (long COVID (LC)) lasting longer than 12 weeks."
And further down:
". Of the 147 patients recruited (70.5% through ADAPT sites and 29.5% externally), 31 participants (21.08%) were designated as LC based on the occurrence of one of three major symptoms (fatigue, dyspnea or chest pain) at month 4 (Supplementary Table 1)"
So 21.8% of a super small sample reported either one of the "three major symptoms": fatigue, dyspnea or chest pain.
Your study is trash.
Originally Posted By ymer⏩
J.L.C with the double dip taking yet anotherL!Did I ever said you're the author?
The study is trash. Period.
The study is trash. Period.
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01-13-2022, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted By Bracket199⏩
Based.Here's a better article, OP.
https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/it-sets-...hild-1.5737271
Imagine putting your own ego over a shot, and refusing it for your child. Just LMAO.
https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/it-sets-...hild-1.5737271
Imagine putting your own ego over a shot, and refusing it for your child. Just LMAO.
Originally Posted By MonsieurWhite⏩
always funny to be poorbloods cry about tranny in first would countries.. yt people.. i swearHe probably prefers being alive to see his children grow up. He probably prefers resisting any and all forms of government tyranny as he wants his children to never have to suffer the same.
Imagine being a misc poster who thinks he has any insight on what a father should be doing for his children and his own health.
Imagine being a misc poster who thinks he has any insight on what a father should be doing for his children and his own health.
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01-13-2022, 03:25 PM
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Couldn't stop me lmfao. "Hypotactically"
Would chit kick anyone in my way then go to jail after. No chits given ded srs.
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01-13-2022, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted By sooby⏩
Being a boot licking cuck is something to be proud of to some.imagine the government not allowing you to see your child unless you start sucking dink on live television. "omg the ego on the father that wouldn't suck dink to see their children!". That's basically how pointless the stipulation is given the children are not at any more risk than a regular flu season and the vaccines are not stopping omicron at all.
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01-13-2022, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
J.L.C takes anotherLAfter 90 days vaxxed individuals are a larger threat for spread then unvaxxed.
All vaxxed need to quarantine to save lives.
All vaxxed need to quarantine to save lives.
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01-13-2022, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted By ymer⏩
Yes.Did I ever said you're the author?
Originally Posted By ymer⏩
But, hopefully you looked close enough to see it's not a single-authored studyYour study is trash.
The study is trash. Period.
Not liking the results doesn't necessarily mean it's trash and shouldn't be considered.
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